03-01-2015, 05:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-01-2015, 04:40 PM by Albert Doyle.)
The context I meant it in is - Before, I said Prayer Man couldn't be a woman because of the receded hairline. Now that I look at that better blow-up the hips appear like they could be wide enough to be a woman's. Also a dress would be uniform from top to bottom like you see. However so would matching dark trousers and a shirt. Plus the forearm strikes me as being like a man's.
I personally discount it being Oswald because common sense shows you in that picture that at least a dozen people were either walking directly towards Prayer Man or looking at him. Not one of those people leaked out information that they saw Oswald in the doorway. This is impossible considering the significance of seeing Oswald standing in the portal during the shooting. What clinches it for me is at this juncture Oswald would had to have walked back in to the Depository through the front door where he would have mingled shoulder to shoulder with many people. There's no way he would have escaped detection at that point. Come on, this is like JVB stuff. Oswald standing right in the doorway during the assassination and not being seen just doesn't wash.
The description of the 4th floor man is similar to the original APB for Oswald. I'm not saying it was Oswald. I'm saying it was possibly one of his CIA doubles.
I forget where I read it, but I read somewhere that DPD once had an encounter with Oswald where they recorded he was a spook. Therefore the absence of his entry on to Baker's statement isn't really too different from the absence of any recorded statements from Oswald at the Dallas Police station. You can't say with certainty Baker didn't recognize Oswald at the police station. Maybe the problem was he, or other Dallas police, recognized Oswald too clearly and decided to keep him off the record until they could clear exposing a known spook with higher authorities. Before you react to this as being too crazy remember the Dallas police were very networked with Ruby through the Carousel. It is very possible Oswald's status was well known to certain Dallas police. Jim, why would Baker's collusion be any different than those other Dallas police who colluded with Ruby's assassination of Oswald? Or Ruby's attendance at the press conference? Come on, they knew who he was. They probably knew who Oswald was as well. The conspiracy is much worse than people imagine. Like you said in your own showcase, they didn't go far enough at the time because they had no idea of the extent of the corruption.
Remember, Frazier allegedly saw one Oswald strolling down Houston Street from the rear of the Depository. And Roger Craig saw another getting in to a station wagon. So why would Truly tell Baker that 4th floor man was OK and an employee? I mean maybe it wasn't an Oswald look-alike, but it still stinks to high heaven and doesn't exclude Oswald being in the lunchroom. Remember, Carolyn Arnold did see Oswald in the lunchroom - probably at 12:25 like she later admitted. This makes sense because why control the assassination to the degree we know it was controlled and then leave Oswald to wander out to the front steps to exonerate himself? I believe Oswald could have been told to lay low and not show his mug because he might be identified which could then lead to whatever operation he was convinced he was doing being compromised. We know this fits Oswald's modus operandi because he was a good operative who always maintained cover, even up to the end. Oswald, a known defector and agent provocateur, would not want to be seen and photographed during a highly secure presidential motorcade, so his hiding in the lunchroom is very plausible.
Jim, the reason the WC didn't buy Oswald in the lunchroom is because it exonerated him.
All Dallas police were part of the plot whether they liked it or not. And Roger Craig showed what happened if you didn't like it. Baker, on the other hand, died of old age.
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I personally discount it being Oswald because common sense shows you in that picture that at least a dozen people were either walking directly towards Prayer Man or looking at him. Not one of those people leaked out information that they saw Oswald in the doorway. This is impossible considering the significance of seeing Oswald standing in the portal during the shooting. What clinches it for me is at this juncture Oswald would had to have walked back in to the Depository through the front door where he would have mingled shoulder to shoulder with many people. There's no way he would have escaped detection at that point. Come on, this is like JVB stuff. Oswald standing right in the doorway during the assassination and not being seen just doesn't wash.
The description of the 4th floor man is similar to the original APB for Oswald. I'm not saying it was Oswald. I'm saying it was possibly one of his CIA doubles.
I forget where I read it, but I read somewhere that DPD once had an encounter with Oswald where they recorded he was a spook. Therefore the absence of his entry on to Baker's statement isn't really too different from the absence of any recorded statements from Oswald at the Dallas Police station. You can't say with certainty Baker didn't recognize Oswald at the police station. Maybe the problem was he, or other Dallas police, recognized Oswald too clearly and decided to keep him off the record until they could clear exposing a known spook with higher authorities. Before you react to this as being too crazy remember the Dallas police were very networked with Ruby through the Carousel. It is very possible Oswald's status was well known to certain Dallas police. Jim, why would Baker's collusion be any different than those other Dallas police who colluded with Ruby's assassination of Oswald? Or Ruby's attendance at the press conference? Come on, they knew who he was. They probably knew who Oswald was as well. The conspiracy is much worse than people imagine. Like you said in your own showcase, they didn't go far enough at the time because they had no idea of the extent of the corruption.
Remember, Frazier allegedly saw one Oswald strolling down Houston Street from the rear of the Depository. And Roger Craig saw another getting in to a station wagon. So why would Truly tell Baker that 4th floor man was OK and an employee? I mean maybe it wasn't an Oswald look-alike, but it still stinks to high heaven and doesn't exclude Oswald being in the lunchroom. Remember, Carolyn Arnold did see Oswald in the lunchroom - probably at 12:25 like she later admitted. This makes sense because why control the assassination to the degree we know it was controlled and then leave Oswald to wander out to the front steps to exonerate himself? I believe Oswald could have been told to lay low and not show his mug because he might be identified which could then lead to whatever operation he was convinced he was doing being compromised. We know this fits Oswald's modus operandi because he was a good operative who always maintained cover, even up to the end. Oswald, a known defector and agent provocateur, would not want to be seen and photographed during a highly secure presidential motorcade, so his hiding in the lunchroom is very plausible.
Jim, the reason the WC didn't buy Oswald in the lunchroom is because it exonerated him.
All Dallas police were part of the plot whether they liked it or not. And Roger Craig showed what happened if you didn't like it. Baker, on the other hand, died of old age.
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