20-02-2015, 12:34 AM
West's Plat:
The Dallas County Surveyor, Robert West, is a very interesting figure in the JFK assassination. First of all, he was actually present in Dealy Plaza during the assassination (southeast corner of Main and Houston). He testified as a State's witness in the trial of Clay Shaw. He heard four loud reports. He believed they came from the northwest quadrant of Dealy Plaza (which would be the grassy knoll area). He observed the motorcycle officers run up the grassy knoll. His most significant contribution however, is the famous plat he drew up at the request of the FBI, (WC Exhibit 585, Shaw exhibit 35).
(the following is from Herbert Blenner's site:
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The numerical data at the bottom is a little hard to read but it has been reproduced here on other threads. Here is a more legible image:
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Here are the numbers on the shots:
Shot 1: 184 feet sight line, 171 feet horizontal.
Shot 2: 242 feet sight line, 232 feet horizontal.
Shot 3: 294 feet sight line, 285 feet horizontal.
You are all familiar with the Pythagorean equation, from which we ought to be able to determine the height of the shooter, given the above data. Since it is said that Oswald made all three shots from the same place, the height should be the same, allowing for elevation differences to the target, which Robert West has clearly marked for us. Being the official surveyor for Dallas County, I assume we can take those elevation figures as correct.
Height 1 = Shooter Height
Height 2 = Shooter Height + (423.07 - 419.07 = 4.0 feet)
Height 3 = Shooter Height + (423.07 - 416.83 = 6.2 feet)
However, the ever reliable Pythagoras gives us a different answer:
Height 1 = SQRT ( (184)^2 - (171)^2 ) = 68 feet
Height 2 = SQRT ( (242)^2 - (232)^2 ) = 68.8 feet (should be 68+4=72)
Height 3 = SQRT ( (294)^2 - (285)^2 ) = 72.2 feet (should be 68+6.2=74.2)
The math proves that the numbers on Robert West's survey are not only not accurate, they are not even internally consistent. Either the elevation figures are wrong, or the distances measured in the plat are wrong (or maybe both). Therefore, it is probably a mistake to base any conclusions (like whether SS Agent Jack Ready might have been in a position to block "Oswald's" view of JFK) on West's numbers.
The Dallas County Surveyor, Robert West, is a very interesting figure in the JFK assassination. First of all, he was actually present in Dealy Plaza during the assassination (southeast corner of Main and Houston). He testified as a State's witness in the trial of Clay Shaw. He heard four loud reports. He believed they came from the northwest quadrant of Dealy Plaza (which would be the grassy knoll area). He observed the motorcycle officers run up the grassy knoll. His most significant contribution however, is the famous plat he drew up at the request of the FBI, (WC Exhibit 585, Shaw exhibit 35).
(the following is from Herbert Blenner's site:
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The numerical data at the bottom is a little hard to read but it has been reproduced here on other threads. Here is a more legible image:
Here are the numbers on the shots:
Shot 1: 184 feet sight line, 171 feet horizontal.
Shot 2: 242 feet sight line, 232 feet horizontal.
Shot 3: 294 feet sight line, 285 feet horizontal.
You are all familiar with the Pythagorean equation, from which we ought to be able to determine the height of the shooter, given the above data. Since it is said that Oswald made all three shots from the same place, the height should be the same, allowing for elevation differences to the target, which Robert West has clearly marked for us. Being the official surveyor for Dallas County, I assume we can take those elevation figures as correct.
Height 1 = Shooter Height
Height 2 = Shooter Height + (423.07 - 419.07 = 4.0 feet)
Height 3 = Shooter Height + (423.07 - 416.83 = 6.2 feet)
However, the ever reliable Pythagoras gives us a different answer:
Height 1 = SQRT ( (184)^2 - (171)^2 ) = 68 feet
Height 2 = SQRT ( (242)^2 - (232)^2 ) = 68.8 feet (should be 68+4=72)
Height 3 = SQRT ( (294)^2 - (285)^2 ) = 72.2 feet (should be 68+6.2=74.2)
The math proves that the numbers on Robert West's survey are not only not accurate, they are not even internally consistent. Either the elevation figures are wrong, or the distances measured in the plat are wrong (or maybe both). Therefore, it is probably a mistake to base any conclusions (like whether SS Agent Jack Ready might have been in a position to block "Oswald's" view of JFK) on West's numbers.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."