The Fiasco of Spartacus

[David Josephs]

I was trying to get an answer from Ms. Loney about whether or not she read John's book.

I mean I could get that answer from John probably , since he keeps track of who orders the book.

I could not disagree more about David and Ms. Loney discussing the book. Because that means you read it.

Now, if you have not read it, and are just following someone else's lead, then I think that will come out in the wash.

I mean, today, I don't want to be represented by anyone else. I would think that is the way most of us here would feel.

Jim...

I read the book. Acquired the CD files, pdfs and notebooks and traced the sources... and about 3 years ago John and I got in touch and began discussing the topic.

I started the book again and spent the next 2 years with John weekly discussing what he wrote, what he meant and what the sources were... and STILL it is difficult to wrap one's head around the magnitiude of the data.

I created the only comprehensive side-by-side presentation of H&L by date directly from the book so that anyone can see who was where and why... and can check the data for themselves (for those interested I can send a pdf version if you PM me an email address - and I still have not completed the 11/22 hour by hour side-by-side since the evidnece is so sparce and conflciting for that time period... Westbrook's whereabouts for example are a mystery - why?)

Ms. Loney and the rest of that crowd has not approached the book and data with any seriousness, and as Dawn repeated says, we simply do not have the time or stomach for the ongoing misrepresentation of data which becomes the springboard to their rebuttals... Their work is all built on a foundation of quicksand... so all that they do is to keep piling on the manure so something shows above the water line...

John and I continue to discuss and work together as he genuinely enjoys my "Evidence IS the Conspiracy" approach... his single point thru all of this is the Evidence is the problem here... no real surprise since in every aspect of the case we find all evidence has been specifically focused to incriminate Oswald, not solve the case. Or specifically convoluted to make understanding and authenticating it impossible.

H&L surfaced as a result of an interview with a man who worked with Oswald at the wrong time
Odio was squashed because she sees an Oswald at the wrong time
The records under the control of different agencies of the government (all of which had FBI/CIA agents along with military agents "gathering intel" within these agencies) were substituted for similar records which instead incriminate Oswald..

So how could these guys leave info in that leads to H&L? Just like the Zfilm could not remove everything indicative of the actual event, certain records could only be removed while others could be partially altered...

Allen Felde is describing his time with Harvey Oswald

The USMC recap here is a mixture of both men... in each case Lee arriving and performing a few months ahead of Harvey... El Toro and Santa Ana are two different bases.

The "FIASCO" extends to all aspects or evidence misrepresentation by this group, not just the H&L stuff. Which happens when they don't take any time to research the issue and just offer pre-conceived opinions to fit their pre-conceived conclusions... gee, just like Specter, Rankin and the entire WC staff.

I have almost completely disengaged from discussion at EF - when a forum allows the wholesale misrepresentation of the facts to go unnoticed, unpunished and even encouraged, enough is enough.

Besides... I have an article on the Rifle and Pistol to finish for Jim and CTKA which I hope to be illuminating :ongwriting::

DJ