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"ScarfLady"---TSBD building "employee"?
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Alan Ford Wrote:
LR Trotter Wrote:
Alan Ford Wrote:
LR Trotter Wrote:If in fact you have made a conclusion as to the proper identification of "ScarfLady", just make your case. I made no request for you to work with me, nor do I need you to tell me what I see. You mentioned what BillyNolanLovelady might have said? And in this post you mentioned BuellWesleyFrazier talking about SarahDeanStanton. He also stated that he spoke to Sarah just after the assassination shooting at 12:30pm. So, she had to be there at that time, and could have stayed a few minutes and/or returned later. But, where was she?

​In any event, I stand by my thoughts as posted.

If in fact you have made a conclusion as to the proper identification of "ScarfLady", just make your case. I made no request for you to work with me, nor do I need you to tell me what I see. You mentioned what BillyNolanLovelady might have said? And in this post you mentioned BuellWesleyFrazier talking about SarahDeanStanton. He also stated that he spoke to Sarah just after the assassination shooting at 12:30pm. So, she had to be there at that time, and could have stayed a few minutes and/or returned later. But, where was she?

​In any event, I stand by my thoughts as posted.

Good afternoon, Mr. Trotter (at least here in New York)

In respect to coming to making a proper identification of "ScarfLady", I'm not so much coming to a conclusion as much as narrowing the field of candidates. Two women (Pauline Sanders and Sarah Stanton can be eliminated due to their own sworn-statements given to the FBI, where they shared they returned inside the building and headed upstairs to their offices 15-17 minutes before "ScarfLady" is captured on film (Martin and/or Hughes).

Moreover, Mr. Frazier (Buell Wesley) also eliminates Sarah Stanton as a candidate for "ScarfLady" as well, sharing the contrast differences in physical descriptions between the only Sarah on those steps that afternoon and "ScarfLady". He made it crystal clear that Sarah was "heavy-set".
In the following phototaken while shots were still being fired upon the presidential limousineBNL shared that it was he who was in the Altgen's 6 photo not Mr. Oswald, even buttressing his claim by noting the only female shading her eyes (a heavy-set woman who just so happens to work on the same floor as Sarah Stanton, who the research community knows was standing on those steps in close proximity with BNL, Mr. Frazier (Buell Wesley), Otis Williams, Bill Shelley and Pauline Sanders.

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At the precise moment of this Altgen's picture, Every other female is accounted for… either upstairs viewing out their respective windows, or standing some 30 feet away from the steps out on the curb, or even further down the Elm Street slope. The only female standing near BNL that matches Mr. Frazier's description of Sarah Stanton is shading her eyes. No one viewing from upstairs transported themselves downstairs; no one standing 30 feet away from the steps out on the curb transported themselves backwards onto those steps; same goes for the females standing further down Elm Street's slope.
I do believe Mr. Frazier did speak to Sarah Stanton immediately following the triangular ambush of gunfire upon the presidential limousine, but I also believe her when she shared that she returned inside and upstairs in a timely manner way before the photo capturing "ScarfLady" is taken by different photographers.

In respect to the possibility of her returning later to the landing, Mr. Frazier's physical description alone rules her out as the much thinner "ScarfLady". Meanwhile, I'll make a good faith effort to return here possibly mid-week and share any new findings in respect to Sarah Stanton…I am actively on it…

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That index page came up for me????? Don't see her in there.
There's lots of Dean's' at Boyd, but I don't see a Sarah.
Is the maiden name Dean or Stanton?

If you have time on your hands, Mr. Trotter, please consider reading the sworn-statements in CE 1381, where you will findamong other telling evidencethat the front doors were actually locked once the authorities arrived on the scene, leaving those already having retuned inside and those outside without access in or out. There was one female who had gone shopping on her lunch break, only to return to a locked door, leaving her no recourse but to wait until much later that afternoon to reenter the building and fetch her coat and belongings (because she said in her sworn FBI statement that she needed to get her coat I immediately ruled her out as "ScarfLady", because "ScarfLady" is already wearing a coat). Point is that upon reading CE 1381, anyone can get a better understanding of who isn't a potential candidate for "ScarfLady" . Whatever is left, may bear further inquiry/research. But no sense in studying females viewing the presidential procession from upstairs, or some 30 feet away from the steps further out on the curb, or much further down the Elm Street slope, etc. when Mr. Altgen's snapped his famous picture.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend and week ahead.

So, are you saying that the lady seen shading her eyes while standing on the lower step just after the JFK limousine drove past the TSBD is Ms SarahDeanStanton? The same person that BuellWesleyFrazier acknowledged talking to, on the landing, just seconds after the assassination shots were fired? Are you also saying that the Altgens picture taken from Elm St shows all occupants of the doorway area? If not, then what does the Altgens photograph have to do with this discussion that involves theTSBD stairs and landing for the Elm St entrance area occupants?

Given that Mr. Altgen's famous photo was snapped precisely when it was, that moment suspended in time only leaves six females eligible to be Sarah Stanton, all of which within their CE 1381 sworn statements placed themselves on the entrance stairs. The other options are Avery Davis, Ruth Dean, Judy McCully, Madie Reese, Pauline Sanders and, of course, Sarah Stanton herself. The same Sarah Stanton is heavy-set, who just so happens to work up on the 2nd floor, and is the only female in Altgen's 6 shading her eyes.

BNL told us that women shading her eyes works on the 2nd floor. Where does Sarah Stanton work? Yes, the 2nd floor. Mr. Frazier (Buell Wesley) already shared that that same women shading her eyes is heavy-set. "ScarfLady' is not heavy-set. That established, here's a volley for you, convince me though evidence that the heavy-set lady shading her eyes who just happens to work up on the 2nd floor is one of the only five possible options left (Avery Davis, Ruth Dean, Judy McCully, Madie Reese or Pauline Sanders).

In fairness to your time if you make a good faith effort, be advised that out of those five options other researchers, including the esteemed Linda Zambonini (sp), have already identified some of them. Moreover, in fairness to your time and effort, at least two of the aforementioned options do not work on the 2nd floor. Where have we heard reference to the 2nd floor before?

I await your evidence that shares that the heavy-set lady shading her eyes is either Avery Davis, Ruth Dean, Judy McCully, Madie Reese or Pauline Sanders. Enjoy your day.

Where and when does BillyNolanLovelady identify SarahDeanStanton as the lady standing on a lower step and shading her eyes while observing the JFK Motorcade at the time it passed the TSBD building Elm St entrance? Can you confirm any eyewitness placing SarahDeanStanton on a lower step at or near 12:30pm? Where is confirmation of BuellWesleyFrazier sharing his size estimate of the lady seen shading her eyes on a lower step? As I recall, he did testify that he was standing on the landing, in shadow, and talking to SarahStanton mere seconds after the shooting of JFK and JBC, and she was on the landing. There is also evidence placing PaulineRebmanSanders on the landing at the time, are you saying she was not there? Or, are you saying AveryDavis, RuthDean, JudyMcCully, MadieReese, along with MsSanders, were on the landing? I am not concerned about which floor anyone worked on, nor am I concerned about what may or may not be seen in Altgens 6. And, I make no claim to be a researcher, only a student of the research about the JFK Assassination. After careful study, I try to develop conclusions without reliance on any "esteemed or other researchers".

In any event, eyewitness testimony places Ms MadieReese on a lower step shading her eyes as the motorcade passes the TSBD, and Ms RuthDean is seen standing to her left. And, I am confident that Ms AveryDavis and Ms JudyMcCully can be located among the area occupants, as testimony places Ms PaulineSanders on the landing at the time. So, I have made a conclusion about ScarfLady's proper identification, as seen on film on the stairs/landing at about 12:45pm/12:50pm, and I stand by my thoughts as posted. If you are determined to disprove said conclusion, you need something other than assumptions accompanied by focus diversion.

For clarification, while I believe a probability exists that ScarfLady can be seen on film on the TSBD landing at about 12:30pm, I do not believe she can be seen on the Altgens 6 photograph. Nor do I believe Ms SarahStanton can be seen on Altgens 6.



Larry
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"ScarfLady"---TSBD building "employee"? - by LR Trotter - 10-07-2017, 08:38 PM

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