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Shelley and Lovelady? Are You Sure??
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Albert Doyle Wrote:
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:[

Both Shelley and Lovelady testified to the Warren Commission that they remained on the steps of the TSBD for 3-4 minutes following the third shot, and did NOT leave the steps until after Gloria Calvery had returned to the TSBD steps and given them the news of the assassination.

Gloria Calvery was standing far enough down Elm St., at the time of the assassination, it would have been impossible for her to arrive at the TSBD steps before Baker.

From the Warren Commission testimony of Billy Lovelady:

Mr. BALL - Had people started to run? [/FONT]
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps. [/FONT]
Mr. BALL - Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks? [/FONT]
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.[/FONT]




Bob is clearly not believing what his own lying eyes show and self-servingly referring to testimony.


The Couch/Darnell films both show a woman running towards Lovelady and Shelley. You can see the woman says something that Shelley pulls up and tries to confront her about.


The evidence clearly shows the 3 minute delay is not accurate and Lovelady and Shelley are seen walking down the Elm St extension directly after the shooting.


It is critically important that Buell Frazier testified he was facing and talking to Sarah Stanton at the moment Calvery ran up to the steps. One look at those films shows that the person Frazier is facing and talking to is Prayer Man.


Bob's own video above shows Baker running just ahead of Calvery to the steps. It is entirely dishonest to not admit this.



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From the Warren Commission testimony of Billy Lovelady:

"Mr. BALL - Had people started to run? [/FONT]
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps. [/FONT]
Mr. BALL - Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks? [/FONT]
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes."

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From the Warren Commission testimony of Bill Shelley:

"Mr. BALL - Do you have any idea how long it was from the time you heard those three sounds or three noises until you saw Truly and Baker going into the building?[/FONT]
Mr. SHELLEY - It would have to be 3 or 4 minutes I would say because this girl that ran back up there was down near where the car was when the President was hit.[/FONT]
Mr. BALL - She ran back up to the door and you had still remained standing there?[/FONT]
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes.[/FONT]
Mr. BALL - Going to watch the rest of the parade were you?[/FONT]
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes."

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"Mr. SHELLEY - We ran out on the island while some of the people that were out watching it from our building were walking back and we turned around and we saw an officer and Truly.[/FONT]
Mr. BALL - And Truly?[/FONT]
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes.[/FONT]
Mr. BALL - Did you see them go into the building?[/FONT]
MMr. SHELLEY - No; we didn't watch that long but they were at the first step like they were fixin' to go in.[/FONT]
Mr. BALL - Were they moving at the time, walking or running?[/FONT]
Mr. SHELLEY - Well, they were moving, yes.[/FONT]
Mr. BALL - Were they running?[/FONT]
Mr. SHELLEY - That, I couldn't swear to; there were so many people around."

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Sorry, Albert but, unless Shelley and Lovelady both committed perjury and lied about Gloria Calvery, that CANNOT be Calvery seen running toward the TSBD steps in the Darnell film, as they both clearly stated they did NOT leave the steps until they had spoken to Gloria Calvery ON the steps.

Despite your vivid fantasies about Running Woman speaking to the two men walking down the Elm St. extension, the testimonies say this cannot be Calvery.

Do you believe Shelley and Lovelady committed perjury and lied to the Warren Commission?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Shelley and Lovelady? Are You Sure?? - by Bob Prudhomme - 01-03-2017, 11:41 PM

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