08-03-2017, 07:32 PM
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:[FONT=&]
[/FONT]According to you, Gloria Calvery was Running Woman, and she ran into the TSBD directly on the heels of Officer Baker; leaving VERY little time and space or Molina to enter the TSBD and be in the lobby when Calvery entered. Yet, he tells Ball "[FONT=&]I was in the lobby standing there....". Sorry, Alber, it sounds as if he was in the lobby for a while before Calvery entered.
[/FONT]However, Molina ells us something else tha is interesting.
"[FONT=&]Mr. BALL. What did you do after that? [/FONT]
[FONT=&]Mr. MOLINA. Well, I just stood there, everybody was running and I didn't know what to do actually, because what could I do. I was just shocked. [/FONT]
[FONT=&]Mr. BALL. Did anybody say anything? [/FONT]
[FONT=&]Mr. MOLINA. Yes. [/FONT]
[FONT=&]Mr. BALL. Yes, this fellow come to me---Mr. Williams said, somebody said, somebody was shooting at the President, somebody, I don't know who it was. There was some shooting, you know, and this fellow said "What can anybody gain[/FONT][FONT=&]371[/FONT]
[FONT=&]by that"; he just shook his head and I just stood there and shook my head. I didn't want to .think what was happening, you know, but I wanted to find out so I went down to where the grassy slope is, you know, and I was trying to gather pieces of conversation of the people that had been close by there and somebody said "Well, the President has been shot and I think they shot somebody else", something like that."
[/FONT]So, if Molina was in the lobby and saw Calvery enter the TSBD, did he go back outside so he could go down "[FONT=&]to where the grassy slope is..."? How many times did Molina enter the TSBD?
What is far more likely is that Molina saw Truly enter the TSBD BY HIMSELF, 20-30 seconds after the last shot, then Molina went down to "where the grassy slope is...", then returned to the TSBD and was standing in the lobby when Gloria Calvery entered the TSBD.
Do you believe this is a photo of Gloria Calvery?
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You're cherry picking Bob. I've asked you several times if you think that in the 3 to 4 minutes that Calvery took to get back to the lobby if you think no one mentioned JFK being shot? You know as well as I do that is very unlikely to the point of impossible. Your scenario involves all the people seen in Darnell headed to the Depository, who just had Calvery running past them shouting Kennedy had been shot, not saying anything and Molina not hearing about it until Calvery came back to the lobby 3-4 minutes later. An observation of your argument style is you deliberately shield yourself from evidence you don't want to hear in order to preserve your stretched interpretations. Meanwhile the testimony makes it clear Molina heard this from Calvery as she entered the building, as both the statements and common sense dictate.
Gloria Calvery is obviously running woman because she fits the timing perfectly as well as obviously being seen running and telling people Kennedy had been shot.
You're ignoring the evidence Bob. It's right in front of you in the film. You are also ignoring that I have qualified Molina's standing there. You are trying to get away with ignoring Molina's testimony to Ball where he says right there I was just outside the door and stepped in. What this means Bob is your desperate attempt to get around the obvious evidence is refuted by Molina whose statement you are ignoring right next to the material you are quoting. If you bothered to correctly read the testimony it describes exactly why Molina could not be in the lobby a long time.
No Bob, you are ignoring as a function of your arguments. You can't do that. It isn't playing fair. If you look at my previous posts you'll see we have defined how Ball is predicating the time period in question to being that of Truly entry 20-30 seconds after the shots. The specific words "up" and "in" designate that Ball is referring to Calvery's first entry into the lobby from outside.
You can't use your word tricks with me Bob. I'm too smart.