01-08-2017, 07:13 PM
Harold Norman, 0ne of the three TSBD employees who viewedthe presidential parade from the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor…
(Oralhistory interview performed for the Sixth Floor Museum, 7-31-91) (Whenasked if he ever talked to Oswald) "No, no more than that particularmorning. James Jarman and myself we were down here on the first floor and wewere filling orders and we kept going back and forth to the window ya knowwaiting for the motorcade to come through, cause we had planned we was gonna goup on the fifth floor and watch it, and he asked us what was everybody waitingon, looking at you know and we just told him you know we just trying to wait'til the president come through. Prior to that that's all he said and didn'tsay anything else. Matter of fact I didn't see him no more that day you knowuntil the thing went by."
Interesting that the individual framed for firing at the presidentthat afternoon had no idea that his target was even coming by,according to his two coworkers above.
And then there's this…Did Harold Norman purposely slip in avital clue about the real whereabouts of the wrongfully accused?, quote, "Prior to that that's all he said and didn'tsay anything else. Matter of fact I didn't see him no more that day you knowuntil the thing went by."
The only "thing" that went by that afternoon was thepresidential procession…from his vantage point up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor, lookingdown upon the chaotic scene unfolding below him, Could Harold Norman have seen the wrongfully accused down on the front entrance steps?, before he and his two coworkers ran over to the west end of the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor. Was it a Freudian slip up, or someone trying discreetly after all these years to come clean without bringing undue attention to his intent, to avoid severe repercussions brought upon himself and/or his family members?
Lest we forget, not one individual making up this trio sawTruly and/or Baker come up the same set of stairs they descended from as they made their way downstairs, eventhis is critically importantpausing on the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] floor landing before fully completing their journey down to the first floor. That pause creates even more time for Truly and/or Baker to cross paths with this trio.
It didn't happen, soTruly's tale about running up these same set of stairs after he and Baker encounter the wrongfully accused is beyond suspect…simply an outright lie told in orderto frame an innocent party.
Given Mr. Dougherty (Jack's) testimony about taking the West elevator down stairs, and Bonnie Ray Williams' sighting of a white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor via the same elevator, it's not frivolous to believe the reason why Dougherty or the other three employees up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor testified they didn't hear Truly call up for the elevators is because it simply didn't happen. Just another one ofTruly's scripted tales.
When one reconstructs the scenebased upon the testimony ofthe trio who watched the parade from the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor, and Mr.Dougherty's descent downward on the West elevator before this trio ran thelength of their southeast corner window viewing position to arrive on thosebackstairs--the same ones supposedly used by Truly & Baker--that trio should have shared within their testimonies the same experience the wrongfully accused is said to have experienced (Does this fellow work here?...gun stuck in their respective tummys, etc). Those respective experiences didn't happen because as each of them testified individually none of them encountered Truly and/or Baker on those same backstairs.
Please note what Truly himself says about the character and credibility of this trio ---Ã
Mr. McCLOY. From what you know of these young men who testified before you today, are they trustworthy?
Mr. TRULY. Yes, sir; I think they are. They are good men. They have been with me, most of them, for some time. I have no reason to doubt their word….
Mr. BELIN. If we can go off the record for just a moment.
(Discussion off the record.) ::thumbsdown::
The plain simple truth doesn't need discussion off the record, modifications, retakes, etc.
Nowhere in Baker's testimony does he encounter this trio onthe same set of stairs. Nowhere inTruly's testimony does he encounter this trio on the same set of stairs. The trio simply didn't encounter this duo,because a contrived script--unlike reality, genuine truth--isn't real.
Mrs. Reid outright lied about her phantom encounter on the2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor with the wrongfully accused.
Roy Truly lied about the elevator; the phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP]floor encounter; his mad dash, leading the charge up the backstairs, and, Idare say IF the 56 year old had genuinely run up those strenuous set of multiple stairs, and made his way back down the same path again as the officerchecked the other floors (ßhis words), he should have been winded, sucking air into his 56 year old lungs, and sweating profusely, and in need of at least a few minutes alone in his office to recover, loosen his tie, open a couple of buttons on his shirt, etc.--instead of immediately noticing anyone missing, let alone the wrongfully accused he fingered…nary a picturenot one--that afternoon shows Truly even momentarily untidy/scruffy, disheveled in his appearance…nevertheless, a contrived script void of reality had to be followed; and, Officer Baker was simply void of the courage/valor to overcome the Or Else proposition he was thrust into after recording the truth just the day before (essentially there was no encounterw/the wrongfully accused, or he would have diligently put such an experience inhis report).
then suddenly--the next day--enters the phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter in the lunchroom...Baker was made to know by parties yet unknown, Or Else propositions have a way of making people understand the full implications of what the Godfather infers/mean about making an offer you cannot refuse.
Reid. Truly. Baker. Amazing what some people will do for thirty pieces of silver.
(Oralhistory interview performed for the Sixth Floor Museum, 7-31-91) (Whenasked if he ever talked to Oswald) "No, no more than that particularmorning. James Jarman and myself we were down here on the first floor and wewere filling orders and we kept going back and forth to the window ya knowwaiting for the motorcade to come through, cause we had planned we was gonna goup on the fifth floor and watch it, and he asked us what was everybody waitingon, looking at you know and we just told him you know we just trying to wait'til the president come through. Prior to that that's all he said and didn'tsay anything else. Matter of fact I didn't see him no more that day you knowuntil the thing went by."
Interesting that the individual framed for firing at the presidentthat afternoon had no idea that his target was even coming by,according to his two coworkers above.
And then there's this…Did Harold Norman purposely slip in avital clue about the real whereabouts of the wrongfully accused?, quote, "Prior to that that's all he said and didn'tsay anything else. Matter of fact I didn't see him no more that day you knowuntil the thing went by."
The only "thing" that went by that afternoon was thepresidential procession…from his vantage point up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor, lookingdown upon the chaotic scene unfolding below him, Could Harold Norman have seen the wrongfully accused down on the front entrance steps?, before he and his two coworkers ran over to the west end of the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor. Was it a Freudian slip up, or someone trying discreetly after all these years to come clean without bringing undue attention to his intent, to avoid severe repercussions brought upon himself and/or his family members?
Lest we forget, not one individual making up this trio sawTruly and/or Baker come up the same set of stairs they descended from as they made their way downstairs, eventhis is critically importantpausing on the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] floor landing before fully completing their journey down to the first floor. That pause creates even more time for Truly and/or Baker to cross paths with this trio.
It didn't happen, soTruly's tale about running up these same set of stairs after he and Baker encounter the wrongfully accused is beyond suspect…simply an outright lie told in orderto frame an innocent party.
Given Mr. Dougherty (Jack's) testimony about taking the West elevator down stairs, and Bonnie Ray Williams' sighting of a white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor via the same elevator, it's not frivolous to believe the reason why Dougherty or the other three employees up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor testified they didn't hear Truly call up for the elevators is because it simply didn't happen. Just another one ofTruly's scripted tales.
When one reconstructs the scenebased upon the testimony ofthe trio who watched the parade from the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor, and Mr.Dougherty's descent downward on the West elevator before this trio ran thelength of their southeast corner window viewing position to arrive on thosebackstairs--the same ones supposedly used by Truly & Baker--that trio should have shared within their testimonies the same experience the wrongfully accused is said to have experienced (Does this fellow work here?...gun stuck in their respective tummys, etc). Those respective experiences didn't happen because as each of them testified individually none of them encountered Truly and/or Baker on those same backstairs.
Please note what Truly himself says about the character and credibility of this trio ---Ã
Mr. McCLOY. From what you know of these young men who testified before you today, are they trustworthy?
Mr. TRULY. Yes, sir; I think they are. They are good men. They have been with me, most of them, for some time. I have no reason to doubt their word….
Mr. BELIN. If we can go off the record for just a moment.
(Discussion off the record.) ::thumbsdown::
The plain simple truth doesn't need discussion off the record, modifications, retakes, etc.
Nowhere in Baker's testimony does he encounter this trio onthe same set of stairs. Nowhere inTruly's testimony does he encounter this trio on the same set of stairs. The trio simply didn't encounter this duo,because a contrived script--unlike reality, genuine truth--isn't real.
Mrs. Reid outright lied about her phantom encounter on the2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor with the wrongfully accused.
Roy Truly lied about the elevator; the phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP]floor encounter; his mad dash, leading the charge up the backstairs, and, Idare say IF the 56 year old had genuinely run up those strenuous set of multiple stairs, and made his way back down the same path again as the officerchecked the other floors (ßhis words), he should have been winded, sucking air into his 56 year old lungs, and sweating profusely, and in need of at least a few minutes alone in his office to recover, loosen his tie, open a couple of buttons on his shirt, etc.--instead of immediately noticing anyone missing, let alone the wrongfully accused he fingered…nary a picturenot one--that afternoon shows Truly even momentarily untidy/scruffy, disheveled in his appearance…nevertheless, a contrived script void of reality had to be followed; and, Officer Baker was simply void of the courage/valor to overcome the Or Else proposition he was thrust into after recording the truth just the day before (essentially there was no encounterw/the wrongfully accused, or he would have diligently put such an experience inhis report).
then suddenly--the next day--enters the phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter in the lunchroom...Baker was made to know by parties yet unknown, Or Else propositions have a way of making people understand the full implications of what the Godfather infers/mean about making an offer you cannot refuse.
Reid. Truly. Baker. Amazing what some people will do for thirty pieces of silver.