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Holmes' Testimony
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Given that Mr. Oswald's words are being spoken by another party to the actual events, let's be mindful of the accuracy--or lack thereof--of the messenger, Holmes. Before I get to the gist of my post, the following photograph clearly demonstrates Holmes' lack of clarity (please remember that word, clarity) ----->

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Did you note the black trousers on Mr. Oswald?

Now, let's see how Holmes describes them ---->

Mr. BELIN. What was Oswald wearing at the time you saw him?
Mr. HOLMES. He was bareheaded. He had a sport shirt on and slacks, pair of trousers.
Mr. BELIN. What color trousers?
Mr. HOLMES. Sort of a medium. On the light side I would say.
Mr. BELIN. What color shirt?
Mr. HOLMES. I don't recall. It was not a loud shirt. It was not outstanding.

That wasn't the only area within his testimony where Holmes would be inaccurate, well, in fairness to him let's just say more than fully forthcoming...as we read further it's not Holmes' fault his testimony becomes a matter of conjecture and/or inadvertently making others to jump too quickly to conclusions, simply because he was less than forthcoming with all of the specifics.

Let's examine this exchange for clarity's sake ---->

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?
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Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

This exchange eliminates an encounter on the 2nd floor, let alone in the lunchroom, because Holmes tells us Mr. Oswald told his interrogators precisely where he meet the policeman and his superintendent (Roy Truly). Not upstairs. Rather on the first floor, specifically, quote, The front entrance to the first floor.

Now, that said, time and sequence is essential here. Yes, Mr. Oswald was at some point in the 2nd floor lunchroom that afternoon. He purchased a Coke there.

Conjecture and a rush to interpretation of Holmes' remarks doesn't disqualify precisely where Mr. Oswald said he met the policeman and his superintendent, quote, The front entrance to the first floor

In respect to coming downstairs to see what all the commotion is about...

Mr. Oswald is simply sharing what anyone else would say upon observing a chaotic scene unfolding around us, we would simply leave the front entrance doors, where a policeman and our superintendent initially encounter us, and walk down the stairs to get a closer look to determine what is happening amid the maddening scene. As far as Mr. Oswald stating he was "up in the building" he simply meant under the canopy near the place where the policeman and his superintendent encountered him, quote, The front entrance to the first floor.


Vestibule ----> "a small room just inside the outer door of a public building"

In fairness to Holmes', by the time he was set to testify to the Warren Commission he already knew to be vague in his statements, especially about precisely where Mr. Oswald specifically stood when he came down the stairs to street level to see what all the commotion was about.

There was no commotion at any time Mr. Oswald was actually on the 2nd floor nabbing a Coke (minutes before the president's limousine rounded the turn off Houston onto Elm Street), because IF there was, How did he get downstairs within the few slight seconds it took for him to be encountered by the policeman and his superintendent at the front entrance to the first floor?

It wasn't by magic, and Mr. Scott did not receive an order from Captain Kirk to teleport him so swiftly...




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Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 02-12-2017, 12:39 AM
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Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 06-02-2018, 07:25 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 06-02-2018, 11:34 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Chris Davidson - 07-02-2018, 04:38 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-02-2018, 05:21 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 15-02-2018, 01:41 PM
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