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Holmes' Testimony
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Alan Ford Wrote:A few key points to ponder:

(1) Besides Holmes' honest account of the encounter w/the wrongly accused happening @ quote, "The front entrance to the first floor", a couple other individuals--including Roy Truly (in his same day remarks void of a next day hastily contrived script) also initially places the wrongly accused on the First floor as well. The late Dallas News reporter, Kent Biffle (RIP) overheard the lying weasel tell Fritz he saw the wrongly accused on the first floor.

Roy Truly's sighting of the wrongly accused down on the first floor was corroborated by Mr. Campbell (Ouchus), the Vice-President of the building (TSBD), who also saw the wrongly accused on the first floor as well. What makes Mr. Campbell's sighting significant is in his remarks he uses the plural form (We), meaning others alongside him as he entered also saw the wrongly accused on the first floor as well.

Now, of course, with a next day hastily contrived script to fulfill to FRAME an innocent party, Baker's actual encounter on the stairway (with someone MUCH heavier than the wrongly accused) suddenly shifts 30' feet clear across the open floor over into a lunchroom (any lie will do, just nail down the fall-guy, so the country can move on before people know what really happened). Speaking of what really happened, note the word *Stampede in the following video (Why else would the general public need to stampede IF a lone gunman was really responsible? ----->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyGzVQGgdqw

(2) There are several more reports that call out the lying tandem's otherwise LOCKED roof exploits. Am choosing to hold on to these reports for future reference. These individuals were simply telling the truth without any idea that a lying tandem would ever be suggesting something to the contrary.

(3) To date, without getting into specifics, I also have come across photos depicting the digital time upon the Hertz sign atop the TSBD, and in all of those telling photos, there is no trace of the lying tandem in any of those telling photos atop the roof, doing anything their respective testimonies say they did while up there upon an otherwise LOCKED roof. The only thing I haven't quite figured out yet is whether or not the roof adventures needed to be created to "buy some time" and for what *purpose ---->

*BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.


Research has borne out that the lying tandem initially skipped the 6th floor altogether in their respective testimonies (or, so they say, but this lying tandem say a lot of things).

Funny not a single photo exists of the lying tandem actually entering the TSBD together.
Not a single photo exists of the lying tandem actually up on the roof, not a single one (odd with all those cameras flashing that afternoon). But, I have several photos where the digital clock lines up w/their tall-tales about that otherwise LOCKED roof.

BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

How was that again, Roy Truly?

Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.


Correct me if wrong, but I seem to recall reading something about HarryHolmes describing himself as trained as "a suspicioner". According to Thesaurus, a suspicioner is a doubter and/or a distruster. In any event, his "statement", per him, is what he thinks was said by LeeOswald during a questionable interrogation on 11/24/'63, shortly before Mr Oswald was shot and killed while in police custody. And, per Mr Holmes, he was relying on his notes that he made about three weeks after the 11/24/'63 interrogation of Mr Oswald. Whether Mr Holmes, or Kent Biffle, neither are speaking as eye witnesses, and very easily misunderstood, misremembered, or misplaced a statement and/or question.

If the claim is that the encounter of DPD Officer ML Baker and TSBD Superintendent RS Truly with Mr Oswald occurred on "the first floor", Mr Ford needs to supply a link to any eyewitness' sworn statement/testimony that reliably indicates said encounter occurred, and at what time.

It is well established that Mr Baker, escorted by Mr Truly, encountered Mr Oswald on the 2nd floor. As Mr Baker was following Mr Truly up the stairway, when he reached the 2nd floor, he scanned the area and saw someone, later identified as Mr Oswald, at the lunchroom and proceeded to investigate. And, while going up the stairway, Mr Truly noticed that Mr Baker was no longer following him, so he turned around to return to the 2nd floor. When there, he heard voices from the lunchroom, and went there and confirmed to Mr Baker that Mr Oswald was indeed an employee at the TSBD Building. The "Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter" occurred at 12:31pm/12:32pm CST , as per the reliable evidence. Accordingly, Mr Baker and Mr Truly most likely left the 2nd floor by the stairway after 12:32pm CST. And, likely entered the TSBD 7th floor no earlier than 12:35pm, and then climbed the steps/ladder to the "locked from the inside" (by hook latch) roof access door to the roof area. That being said, I have to wonder, as I wander, why anyone would expect anyone with a camera taking pictures, from an appropriate area, of the roof area above the 7th floor of the TSBD Building anywhere near 12:35pm CST on 11/22/'63?

It has been posted that DCS Deputy John W Wiseman searched the TSBD Building "on the heels of Mr Baker and Mr Truly", but it appears to me that his own statement indicates it to be at least five minutes later. And, as well, his statement, along with the statement of DPD Motorcycle Officer Bobby W Hargis sufficiently indicates that Officer Hargis was the police officer he had seen having trouble with his motorcycle.

As for Mr Truly's arrival at the 6th floor, southeast corner, as previously posted, quite likely as Building Superintendent, he noticed the open window and boxes stacked that restricted view, and went to investigate. In any event, although to me a non-issue, I do wonder, as I wander, as to what time it was, when sometime before he "learned that they had found either the rifle or spent shell cases".

Links provided for review:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/holmes1.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/holmes2.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm
[URL="http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly2.htm"]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m2.htm
[/URL]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly1.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly2.htm
[URL="http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/hscaharg.htm"]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ../jfkinfo3/reports/wiseman.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/hscaharg.htm[/URL]
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/hargis.htm



Larry
StudentofAssassinationResearch

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Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 02-12-2017, 12:39 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 09-12-2017, 10:54 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 10-12-2017, 01:55 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 10-12-2017, 05:34 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 10-12-2017, 06:53 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 12-12-2017, 07:41 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 16-12-2017, 04:13 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 17-12-2017, 06:35 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 18-12-2017, 08:11 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-01-2018, 07:43 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-01-2018, 08:15 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-01-2018, 08:33 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 10-01-2018, 06:59 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 10-01-2018, 08:48 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 10-01-2018, 09:42 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 10-01-2018, 09:46 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 11-01-2018, 06:44 AM
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Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 12-01-2018, 12:21 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 12-01-2018, 05:36 PM
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Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 14-01-2018, 12:02 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 16-01-2018, 06:07 PM
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Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 17-01-2018, 06:44 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 18-01-2018, 12:15 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 18-01-2018, 06:25 PM
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Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 29-01-2018, 08:07 PM
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Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 31-01-2018, 12:04 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 31-01-2018, 01:43 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 31-01-2018, 08:37 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 01-02-2018, 10:04 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 02-02-2018, 07:17 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 03-02-2018, 07:42 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 03-02-2018, 08:36 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Chris Davidson - 03-02-2018, 11:24 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 05-02-2018, 09:17 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 05-02-2018, 10:06 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 06-02-2018, 07:25 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 06-02-2018, 11:34 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Chris Davidson - 07-02-2018, 04:38 AM
Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 09-02-2018, 05:21 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by LR Trotter - 15-02-2018, 01:41 PM
Holmes' Testimony - by Chris Davidson - 16-02-2018, 12:18 AM
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