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Holmes' Testimony
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Alan Ford Wrote:Self-reminder: return here to insert genuine eyewitnesses who saw with their own eyes the wrongly accused down on the first floor during the immediate aftermath of the ambush upon a democratically elected representative of the people...

In respect to Occhus Campbell's sighting of the wrongly accused; the Vice-President of the TSBD and his accompanying party, upon their return inside immediately sighted the wrongly accused, quote & thus his plural form, We saw Oswald on the first floor near a storage room. These are eyewitnesses directly on the scene during the immediate aftermath.

In respect to Holmes, he knows precisely where the tandem actually encountered the wrongly accused, quote, First Floor -----> Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

Moreover, he adds ----> quote, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved.He mentioned something about a coke. But a police officer asked him who he was, and just as he started to identify himself, his superintendent came up and said, "He is one of our men." And the policeman said, "Well, you step aside for a little bit."

Of course, after five months he--like so many other witnesses--simply saw which way the wind was blowing, and adjusted their sails, err, recollections accordingly.

Well, you step aside for a bit fits the actions of an encounter on the first floor, with Roy Truly just behind Baker on the front entrance steps, quote, his superintendent came up and said, "He is one of our men.

Moving on, let's train our focus now upon the roof, where the lying tandem would have us believe they were able to somehow accomplish something that four other responding lawmen, and members of the Dallas Fire Station No. 3 couldn't.

We begin w/this exchange ---->

Mr. BELIN - In this time sequence you mentioned you were on the roof more than 5 minutes, that could be 25 or 30 or 10 or 15 or what?
Mr. BAKER - This, to my recollection, it seemed like I shouldn't have stayed up there over 10 minutes anyway, if that long.
Mr. BELIN - So you would say somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes?
Mr. BAKER - I just ran around up there looking for something; I didn't find it and then we came on down.

Taking Baker at his word, let's do some basic math:

90 seconds to reach the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor lunchroom (or so they say) ='s 12:32PM

30 seconds to experience an exchange with the wrongly accused (or so they say) ='s 12:32:30 secs

then the tandem crosses the floor to return to the stairway some 30 feet away, and begin climbing two flights per floor to reach the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor. Let's pretend they didn't engage the 165lb man higher up, and even though Roy Truly is 56 years old, I'll give the weasel a free pass and pretend he didn't get winded from over exertion, and just say @ 30 secs per the three floors involved they arrived upon the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor at 12:35PM

The elevator ride up to the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] floor puts them at 12:35:30 seconds.

Their ability to teleport through an otherwise LOCKED roof puts them at 12:36PM.

Note what Baker says about how long the tandem were upon an otherwise LOCKED roof ---->

Mr. BAKER - This, to my recollection, it seemed like I shouldn't have stayed up there over 10 minutes anyway, if that long.

Baker's lie has many problems. Let's just share a couple.

1. Even if the lying tandem was able to borrow some magic from the magic-bullet, and teleport themselves magically through an otherwise LOCKED roof, it would have been long after 12:45PM before they begin their descent downward.

2. However, several photographic images between 12:39PM12:40PM of the roof & the digital clock upon the BIG Hertz sign do NOT demonstrate any of the actions the lying tandem claimed they were doing while up on the roof in their respective Warren Commission testimonies.

3. Their biggest LIE was claiming they were upon the roof. Besides Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman, who found access to the roof LOCKED, several other lawmen responding to the shooting also shed considerable doubt on anyone accessing that LOCKED roof. Here we have four (4) individuals telling the truth, and the lying tandem telling Roy Truly's "truth".

Addendum (self-reminder) Hold Inspector J. Hubert Sawyer's testimony in reserve, until such time someone cares to challenge the above math. Inspector Sawyer's testimony is very telling in multiple instances.

How was that again, Roy Truly?

Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

Pleading the 5th Roy "I sink more than a few hole-in-ones whenever I golf alone" Truly...

Tall-Tales R Us by Roy "I caught a whale of a BIG fish, but he got away...again" Truly...

Addendum(2) hold off on posting about this challenge for the wannabe roofing tandem for now ---->

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=9268&stc=1]
Photo credit the late Mr. White (Jack) RIP sir.

Judging from how high the above wall is, and the following testimony ----->

[FONT=&amp]Mr. BELIN. What did you do on the roof? [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Mr. TRULY. We ran immediately to the west side of the building. There is a wall around the building that you cannot see over without getting your foot between the mortar of the stones and, or some such toehold. We did that and looked over the ground and the railroad tracks below. There we saw many officers and a lot of spectators, people running up and down.

The several photos I have--between 12:39PM --12:40PM do NOT line up with Truly's italic tale above with the digital time noted upon the BIG Hertz sign in the same sequence the lying tandem claim to be upon an otherwise LOCKED roof.

What was Roy Truly really doing?, and why was he over in the sniper's nest ---->
[/FONT]

Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

When the time comes for Mr Ford, as indicated, who shall return to insert genuine eyewitnesses that saw with their own eyes, to seek actual testimony, should DPD Inspector J HerbertSawyer be one of said witnesses, actual thorough testimony, including some important timing references, can be found at:
[URL="http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sawyer_j.htm"]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sawyer_j.htm

[/URL]And, if needed, actual testimony/report statement of DCS Deputy JohnW Wiseman is available at:
[URL="http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/wiseman.htm"]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/wiseman.htm

[/URL]Also, additional actual testimony/statements of US Postal Inspector HarryD Holmes, mostly regarding statements he heard can be found at:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/holmes1.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/holmes2.ht[URL="http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm"]

[/URL]A brave response by DPD Officer BobbyW Hargis as stated at:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/hargis.htm

As well as actual testimony of DPD Officer MarrionL Baker describing his actions at:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm

TSBD Building Superintendent RoyS Truly's testimony is also available at
[URL="http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly1.htm"]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly1.htm
[/URL]http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly2.htm

Also quite telling of the situation in and/or near the TSBD Building at 12;30pm CST, 11/22/'63, is TSBD VicePresident OchusV Campbell's statement to the FBI on 11/24/'63, which can be found at:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/exhibits/ce1435.htm

Larry
StudentofAssassinationResearch

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Holmes' Testimony - by Richard Gilbride - 02-12-2017, 12:39 AM
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Holmes' Testimony - by Alan Ford - 12-12-2017, 07:41 PM
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