25-01-2018, 06:28 PM
Mr. Ball.
Then, if the gun wasn't found until after 1:10, you think it might have been as late as 1:05 or so before you discovered that Oswald wasn't there?
Mr. Truly.
It could be--it could have been.
Mr. Ball.
You have no exact memory as to the time you discovered he was not there?
Mr. Truly.
No, sir; I didn't believe after thinking things over--it was over in 15 or 20 minutes after the shots were fired, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed, so it could have been I or 1:05 or something like that.
Mr. Ball.
Before you discovered Oswald wasn't there?
Mr. Truly.
That's right, and at such time that you have information of the officers taking the names of the workers in the warehouse over in and around the wrapping tables, it was at such time that I noticed that this boy wasn't among the other workers.
*Source : https://www.jfk-assassination.eu/warren/...age385.php
Now, compare what the crafty weasel claims as the time FRAME (pun intended) he sayswhich runs contrary to the above tutelage by Dave "lead the witness to a desired outcome" Ballhe initially discovers the wrongly accused missing…
Mr. BELIN. All right.
And then you got down eventually to the first floor?
Mr. TRULY. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. About how long after these shots do you think it took you to go all the way up and look around the roof and come all the way down again?
Mr. TRULY. Oh, we might have been gone between 5 and 10 minutes. It is hard to say.
It's hard to say, Roy Truly, Or do you have to be mindful of following a hastily contrived script with a concocted timeline?
Let's continue ---->
Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got back to the first floor, or what did you see?
Mr. TRULY. When I got back to the first floor, at first I didn't see anything except officers running around, reporters in the place. There was a regular madhouse.
Mr. BELIN. Had they sealed off the building yet, do you know?
Mr. TRULY. I am sure they had.
Mr. BELIN. Then what?
Mr. TRULY. Then in a few minutes--it could have been moments or minutes at a time like that--I noticed some of my boys were over in the west corner of the shipping department, and there were several officers over there taking their names and addresses, and so forth.
There were other officers in other parts of the building taking other employees, like office people's names. I noticed that Lee Oswald was not among these boys.
So I picked up the telephone and called Mr. Aiken down at the other warehouse who keeps our application blanks. Back up there.
First I mentioned to Mr. Campbell--I asked Bill Shelley if he had seen him, he looked around and said no.
Mr. BELIN. When you asked Bill Shelley if he had seen whom?
Mr. TRULY. Lee Oswald. I said, "Have you seen him around lately," and he said no.
So Mr. Campbell is standing there, and I said, "I have a boy over here missing. I don't know whether to report it or not." Because I had another one or two out then. I didn't know whether they were all there or not. He said, "What do you think"? And I got to thinking. He said, "Well, we better do it anyway." It was so quick after that.
So I picked the phone up then and called Mr. Aiken, at the warehouse, and got the boy's name and general description and telephone number and address at Irving.
So, Which lie is it, Roy?, the, quote, a few minutes after returning to the first floor, after your exploits upon an otherwise LOCKED roof? Or, your subsequent attempt at fulfilling a hastily contrived script concocted to FRAME an innocent party? ---->
Mr. Ball.
Then, if the gun wasn't found until after 1:10, you think it might have been as late as 1:05 or so before you discovered that Oswald wasn't there?
Mr. Truly.
It could be--it could have been.
Mr. Ball.
You have no exact memory as to the time you discovered he was not there?
Mr. Truly.
No, sir; I didn't believe after thinking things over--it was over in 15 or 20 minutes after the shots were fired, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed, so it could have been I or 1:05 or something like that
For the record, Roy Truly, What day of the week is it?
Recap: The roof was LOCKED.
*Aside from Dallas Deputy Sheriff John Wiseman, three (3) other lawmen found it inaccessible when they made their respective attempts to access the roof.
*Dallas Fire Station Number 3 personnel found it inaccessible as well.
*No photos exists (not a single one-in spite of all the cameras flashing in the plaza that afternoon) of the lying tandem upon the roof of the TSBD. In particular, I have retained more than a few photos of the roof, flashing the BIG Hertz sign digital clock readings, yet (no recordings of the lying tandem's exploits, in spite of, quote, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed
No worries, Roy Tall-tales, if you need additional time for yet another round of Discussion off the record, just wipe the beads of perspiration off your forehead; stop shuffling your feet; make eye contact when you are speaking, and refrain from twirling your thumbs.
Freudian slip, Roy Truly ---->
Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.
Addendum: No full lunch break for me today, as I see a subsequent post is needed here to demonstrate Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman was indeed on the heels of the lying tandem and their adventures upon an otherwise LOCKED roof...post to follow.
Then, if the gun wasn't found until after 1:10, you think it might have been as late as 1:05 or so before you discovered that Oswald wasn't there?
Mr. Truly.
It could be--it could have been.
Mr. Ball.
You have no exact memory as to the time you discovered he was not there?
Mr. Truly.
No, sir; I didn't believe after thinking things over--it was over in 15 or 20 minutes after the shots were fired, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed, so it could have been I or 1:05 or something like that.
Mr. Ball.
Before you discovered Oswald wasn't there?
Mr. Truly.
That's right, and at such time that you have information of the officers taking the names of the workers in the warehouse over in and around the wrapping tables, it was at such time that I noticed that this boy wasn't among the other workers.
*Source : https://www.jfk-assassination.eu/warren/...age385.php
Now, compare what the crafty weasel claims as the time FRAME (pun intended) he sayswhich runs contrary to the above tutelage by Dave "lead the witness to a desired outcome" Ballhe initially discovers the wrongly accused missing…
Mr. BELIN. All right.
And then you got down eventually to the first floor?
Mr. TRULY. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. About how long after these shots do you think it took you to go all the way up and look around the roof and come all the way down again?
Mr. TRULY. Oh, we might have been gone between 5 and 10 minutes. It is hard to say.
It's hard to say, Roy Truly, Or do you have to be mindful of following a hastily contrived script with a concocted timeline?
Let's continue ---->
Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got back to the first floor, or what did you see?
Mr. TRULY. When I got back to the first floor, at first I didn't see anything except officers running around, reporters in the place. There was a regular madhouse.
Mr. BELIN. Had they sealed off the building yet, do you know?
Mr. TRULY. I am sure they had.
Mr. BELIN. Then what?
Mr. TRULY. Then in a few minutes--it could have been moments or minutes at a time like that--I noticed some of my boys were over in the west corner of the shipping department, and there were several officers over there taking their names and addresses, and so forth.
There were other officers in other parts of the building taking other employees, like office people's names. I noticed that Lee Oswald was not among these boys.
So I picked up the telephone and called Mr. Aiken down at the other warehouse who keeps our application blanks. Back up there.
First I mentioned to Mr. Campbell--I asked Bill Shelley if he had seen him, he looked around and said no.
Mr. BELIN. When you asked Bill Shelley if he had seen whom?
Mr. TRULY. Lee Oswald. I said, "Have you seen him around lately," and he said no.
So Mr. Campbell is standing there, and I said, "I have a boy over here missing. I don't know whether to report it or not." Because I had another one or two out then. I didn't know whether they were all there or not. He said, "What do you think"? And I got to thinking. He said, "Well, we better do it anyway." It was so quick after that.
So I picked the phone up then and called Mr. Aiken, at the warehouse, and got the boy's name and general description and telephone number and address at Irving.
So, Which lie is it, Roy?, the, quote, a few minutes after returning to the first floor, after your exploits upon an otherwise LOCKED roof? Or, your subsequent attempt at fulfilling a hastily contrived script concocted to FRAME an innocent party? ---->
Mr. Ball.
Then, if the gun wasn't found until after 1:10, you think it might have been as late as 1:05 or so before you discovered that Oswald wasn't there?
Mr. Truly.
It could be--it could have been.
Mr. Ball.
You have no exact memory as to the time you discovered he was not there?
Mr. Truly.
No, sir; I didn't believe after thinking things over--it was over in 15 or 20 minutes after the shots were fired, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed, so it could have been I or 1:05 or something like that
For the record, Roy Truly, What day of the week is it?
Recap: The roof was LOCKED.
*Aside from Dallas Deputy Sheriff John Wiseman, three (3) other lawmen found it inaccessible when they made their respective attempts to access the roof.
*Dallas Fire Station Number 3 personnel found it inaccessible as well.
*No photos exists (not a single one-in spite of all the cameras flashing in the plaza that afternoon) of the lying tandem upon the roof of the TSBD. In particular, I have retained more than a few photos of the roof, flashing the BIG Hertz sign digital clock readings, yet (no recordings of the lying tandem's exploits, in spite of, quote, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed
No worries, Roy Tall-tales, if you need additional time for yet another round of Discussion off the record, just wipe the beads of perspiration off your forehead; stop shuffling your feet; make eye contact when you are speaking, and refrain from twirling your thumbs.
Freudian slip, Roy Truly ---->
Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.
Addendum: No full lunch break for me today, as I see a subsequent post is needed here to demonstrate Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman was indeed on the heels of the lying tandem and their adventures upon an otherwise LOCKED roof...post to follow.