Holmes' Testimony

[LR Trotter]

One line item at a time...

Presenting photographs as a timing evidence issue lacks credibility without provable confirmation of an exact time of said photographs.

On the contrary, especially when the photo(s) are of the roof displaying 12:39PM & 12:40PM upon the BIG Hertz's digital clock...which clearly demonstrates that no one, and I mean no one was atop the roof, let alone Baker climbing the Hertz clock as he claimed, nor Tall-tales, err, a height-challenged-56 year old Truly, pulling himself up over an extended high wall as he claims as well. They simply LIED. Dallas Deputy-Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman simply told the truth. He and three other lawman that I'll hold in reserve for now, not to mention Dallas Fire Station No. 3 personnel, etc. The lying tandem simply LIED. Why? is the $64,000 question...

Indications are that RoyTruly gave his best estimate relative to timing of events, and the after a recap of thought, he adjusted his estimates. Nothing unusual.

On the contrary, no lie-detector machine could survive an encounter with Roy "Tall tales" Truly...as he continues to shift his testimony repeatedly. There's times in his testimony when it's apparent he couldn't tell you the day of the week, without WC counsel steering his response one way or another. Nap time, Roy Truly...

Time and time again, again, the statement of Deputy JohnWiseman indicates him to be at least 5 minutes behind Mr Truly and Officer ML Baker as he and other officers began searching the TSBD.

On the contrary, given John Wiseman's exchange with Marilyn Stizman--more than half a football field away from the front of the building on the knoll, and his subsequent mad dash away from her position over to the TSBD, there is no one who is going to believe she walked faster than someone at a full sprint.

As the photo clearly shows, Marilyn Stizman is in the same frame as Victoria Elizabeth Adams, who took up her position in front of the building between 2 1/2 minutes to no more than three (3) minutes following the last shot. (Moreover, in his testimony, DPD Officer Welcome Barnett puts her out there even sooner, but I'm just sharing conservative figures here to aid Truly's tall-tale to no avail, no matter how much I try to give the weasel the benefit of the doubt. He simply LIED. No one thinks and/or believes Ms. Stizman overtook a charging John "what an adrenaline rush" Wiseman as he raced away from her into a full sprint towards the TSBD, and up those backstairs to find the roof LOCKED.

Repeating, and repeating again, and again, time and time again, and again, will not factualize assertions that are beyond fact.

As in repeating/parroting back the 2nd floor phantom hoax of a lunch room encounter...over, and over, and over, and over, etc. got it.

The only time Marrion Baker told the truth was when he wrote his same day affidavit, telling us precisely where he encountered someone (the stairway), but I understand if for some people in denial that equates into a lunchroom 30' clear across the floor all the way away from the stairway.

Where was that encounter--void of a hastily contrived next day script concocted to FRAME an innocent party, Marrion Baker? ----->The Stairway

How large was the man you truly encountered, Marrion Baker? ----->

165lbs ....

as oppose to this MUCH lighter individual ----->


Lee Harvey Oswald was Framed.

Now, How was that again, Roy? ----->

Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

Care to elaborate further, Roy, especially upon -----> It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

So you are accusing me of "parroting"?

The reliable evidence indicates that ML Baker and RS Truly, at about 12:31pm/12:32pm CST on 11/22/'63 encountered LeeOswald on the 2nd floor of the TSBD Building at the lunchroom. It is not "a hoax".

You present pictures of the sidewalk area near the entrance of the TSBD at Elm St and Houston St as timing evidence, but then refer to the Hertz Sign clock on the roof for evidence? So does that mean that you can produce a picture of the entire roof area? At 12:39pm/12:40pm CST? On 11/22/'63? After RS Truly and ML Baker left the 2nd floor lunchroom at/or after 12:33pm CST, what time did they reach 7th floor? What time did they reach the roof area? What does that have to do with the time of the pictures at the Elm St at Houston St sidewalk? What is the time of those pictures? Where in his testimony, does Officer WelcomeBarnett confirm the time of said pictures?

After JohnWiseman heard the shots fired, and went by foot across Houston St, and then across "the park" to Elm St, where "he observed a motorcycle patrolman having trouble with his vehicle" ( BobbyHargis), then spoke with a gentleman "on the ground", and then spoke with MarilynSitzman about the shots fired, he then went to and entered the TSBD, fka the Sexton Building. So, at what time did JohnWiseman enter the TSBD, where he asked about the number of doors to the building? At what time did he leave the building to seek "other officers" to assist in searching the building? At what time did Mr Wiseman re-enter the TSBD with additional officers? How much time was spent searching each floor? What time did he reach the 7th floor? At what time did he observe the "locked on the inside with a hook latch" roof access door in the ceiling?

As previously acknowledged, those of us that can actually recall 11/22/'63, should, and likely most do, recall the ambiguity of the early reports of shots being fired at the JFKSr Motorcade in Dallas, TX, at/or about 12:30pm CST. And, as well, recall the quite apparent chaos that ensued with said reports. A real life event, not a made for TV Movie.

DPD Officer WelcomeBarnett's testimony:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/barnett.htm