Holmes' Testimony

[LR Trotter]

Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman had no problem completing his narrative, and charging up those backstairs before Marilyn Stizman shows up minutes later in front of the building as depicted by photographic evidence, and the confirming timeline of Victoria Elizabeth Adams and Officer Barnett's movements & observations that afternoon. Marilyn Stizman's new position--way over from where she initially encounters him--confirms Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman is already charging up those backstairs.

Just this once, I'm going to share a single photo of several I've archived on hand depicting the roof, and the BIG Hertz sign's digital clock (but will hold the others in reserve for now).

Lest we forget, aside from Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman-- a total of at least three (3) different other individuals found the roof inaccessible in the same time sequence as the laying tandem of Roy Truly and Marrion Baker claim to have teleported themselves through an otherwise LOCKED roof. Akin to the other photos on hand, I'll reserve their names and common experience for now shared by Dallas Deputy-Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" Wiseman.

Roy Truly and Marrion Baker tell us respectively that they spent, quote, over 5 minutes upon the roof (their words, not mine). Later within his own testimony Baker even goes as far as to say not a second more than 9:59 minutes/secs; and Roy Truly, in order to shore up yet another lie puts the time even further along ---->

Mr. Ball.
You have no exact memory as to the time you discovered he was not there?
Mr. Truly.
No, sir; I didn't believe after thinking things over--it was over in 15 or 20 minutes after the shots were fired, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed, so it could have been I or 1:05 or something like that

Since Roy Truly likes to lie so much, we'll just say--in fairness to his next lie--the time delay and back (his own words) equates now into 12:48PM, which gives him the window he needs to fit his lie about not noticing the wrongly accused until a few minutes before 1 o'clock to accommodate his Dave Ball induced timeline to call the warehouse, get the wrongly accused's info, wander over to Chief Lumpkin, wait for the elevator to go up and share the frame up, err, newly concocted timeline, yada, yada, yada.

Before we share the photo of the roof and the time displayed upon the BIG Hertz sign digital clock, please bear in mind what the tandem said they did while up on an otherwise LOCKED roof...

Mr. BELIN. What did you do on the roof?
Mr. TRULY. We ran immediately to the west side of the building. There is a wall around the building that you cannot see over without getting your foot between the mortar of the stones and, or some such toehold. We did that and looked over the ground and the railroad tracks below. There we saw many officers and a lot of spectators, people running up and down.

now Marrion Baker ----->

Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, when you talk, I wonder if you would look at me, we might be able to hear a little bit better. Would you tell us what else you did?
Mr. BAKER - As I finished going all around this building here and then I came to this sign and I looked up there to see if I could find anybody hiding up there and I started up these steps, it is a ladder there on that sign, and I got on, say, 10 feet up there and I came back down, I seen that nobody would shoot from up there. He wouldn't have no place to hold on.
Mr. BELIN - By that you are referring to climbing the ladder to climb up the sign, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; this large Hertz sign here.

Most telling ---->

Mr. BELIN - In this time sequence you mentioned you were on the roof more than 5 minutes, that could be 25 or 30 or 10 or 15 or what?
Mr. BAKER - This, to my recollection, it seemed like I shouldn't have stayed up there over 10 minutes anyway, if that long.

So, even at 9:59:59 secs, even IF the lying tandem had waved a magic wand to teleport themselves though an otherwise LOCKED roof, given Baker's above statement, they would have still been up there with enough time to clearly demonstrate their claimed actions up to at the very least 12:44PM (a conservative figure), and as MUCH as 12:48PM (see Roy Truly's refined lie above).

When we factor in their bogus claims about 90 seconds to the lunchroom, plus an additional 30 secs spent in the same to engage the wrongly accused…then retrace their steps back across the floor to resume the tale end of their invisible 3 ½ minute ascent to the otherwise LOCKED roof, these men couldn't have gotten to the LOCKED roof, let alone atop it by 12:37PM (go ahead, please, add five minutes to that time, let alone adding, quote, over 5 minutes.


Note the clock on the Hertz sign atop the roof reads 12:40PM, yet no signs of Baker & Truly looking out over Dealey Plaza as they claim ----->

Mr. BELIN. What did you do on the roof?
Mr. TRULY. We ran immediately to the west side of the building. There is a wall around the building that you cannot see over without getting your foot between the mortar of the stones and, or some such toehold. We did that and looked over the ground and the railroad tracks below. There we saw many officers and a lot of spectators, people running up and down.

and, for good measure before I ask an obvious question or two ---->

Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, when you talk, I wonder if you would look at me, we might be able to hear a little bit better. Would you tell us what else you did?
Mr. BAKER - As I finished going all around this building here and then I came to this sign and I looked up there to see if I could find anybody hiding up there and I started up these steps, it is a ladder there on that sign, and I got on, say, 10 feet up there and I came back down, I seen that nobody would shoot from up there. He wouldn't have no place to hold on.
Mr. BELIN - By that you are referring to climbing the ladder to climb up the sign, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; this large Hertz sign here.

Does anyone see Roy Truly doing what he claimed to be doing?, standing upon a toehole and looking down at the spectators...

Does anyone see Marrion Baker doing what he claimed to be doing? standing upon a toehole and looking down at the spectators...let alone climbing up a ladder void of any spectators below gawking and/or gasping, etc.

Well, what if they were already off the roof by then? Well, that doesn't bode well for the liars either, because either they are on the roof in the time sequence they shared, or they are liars just the same. Doesn't matter how or when Roy "I sink more than a few hole-in-ones whenever I golf alone" Truly says it. a lie coming from a liar is still a lie.

Moreover, you can bet your last dollar IF they or anyone else for that matter was really on the roof (given the nature of the shocking development that just happened and the essence of human nature) the spectators below would be frantically extending their arms and pointing their fingers towards the roof, even if to yell attention to the two figures IF they were really there.

In the photo shared, in the same time sequence these men--given Roy Truly's quote, time and delay, Is even one spectator even remotely concerned at all with any activity upon the roof of the TSBD?

What was Roy Truly really doing that afternoon over in the sniper's nest ----->

Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

Say again ----> Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

Again, DCS Deputy JohnWiseman's own testimony places him at least 5 minutes behind TSBD BuildingSuperintendent RoyTruly and DPD Officer MarrionBaker when he began his floor by floor search of the TSBD

In the event that BuildingSuperintendent Truly and Officer Baker had reached the roof area by 12:40pm, CST, which I doubt and tend to believe they arrived some minutes later, that does not itself mean that they were in camera view at the time of the photograph. And accordingly, after a recap, Mr Truly estimated that after leaving the roof area onto the 7th floor, he then went to the 6th floor southeast corner window at about 1:00pm/1:05pm, CST.

Instead of pulling timing estimates out of thin air and stating them amid assertions beyond fact, we can read actual statements of those who were there.

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