Mr. Trotter,
*Even IF the following were true (it isn't, because Marilyn Stizman's new position in the time she took it was far behind a racing lawman well ahead of her movements) ---->
Again, DCS Deputy JohnWiseman's own testimony places him at least 5 minutes behind TSBD BuildingSuperintendent RoyTruly and DPD Officer MarrionBaker when he began his floor by floor search of the TSBD
*Q: How could one individual, let alone two individuals claiming to be upon the roof, engaged in professed activities like climbing a HUGH bright structure, and standing upon a toehold, looking at spectators below go unnoticed?!
A: The answer to why not a single spectator below (not even one) in the photo shared, is frantically extending their arms pointing their fingers upward, nor YELLING out the lying tandem's position is because there was no reason to. The weasels simply LIED about being atop an otherwise LOCKED roof.
and, most telling--as I anticipated your response--How do you account for Roy Truly's exchange here---->
Mr. Ball.
You have no exact memory as to the time you discovered he was not there?
Mr. Truly.
No, sir; I didn't believe after thinking things over--it was over in 15 or 20 minutes after the shots were fired, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed, so it could have been I or 1:05 or something like that
Even IF we pretend Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" moved at the pace of a turtle, surly he would have eventually made it up those backstairs before a newly revised lie by yours TRULY, quote, my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, fully elapsed...
No matter which lie liar Roy Truly goes with, a lie is still a lie.
Which lie is it, Roy Truly?,
An extended stay on the roof to fit Dave Ball's leading the witness to a desired outcome?,
Or, a gross mistake on your part never knowing the roof tale would ever be called into question by not just Sheriff Wiseman (John), but also three other different individuals right on your lying heels that afternoon, who also found the roof inaccessible?! Those four (4) aforementioned individuals who found the roof inaccessible does not even include Dallas Fire Department personnel from Fire Station No. 3, and what they also encountered at 1:33PM that afternoon.
Too late to retract that, quote, "Over 5 minutes" upon the roof eh?, let alone Dave Ball's widening of the goal-post even further.
[FONT=&]O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive! --Sir Walter Scott[/FONT]
Try as I might, I still cannot see the lying tandem performing any of the multiple activities they said they were engaged in upon an otherwise LOCKED roof ----> Peek-a-boo, Roy Truly?
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Note the digital-clock reading on the Hertz sign atop the roof, yet no signs of Baker & Truly looking out over Dealey Plaza as they claim ----->
Mr. BELIN. What did you do on the roof?
Mr. TRULY. We ran immediately to the west side of the building. There is a wall around the building that you cannot see over without getting your foot between the mortar of the stones and, or some such toehold. We did that and looked over the ground and the railroad tracks below. There we saw many officers and a lot of spectators, people running up and down.
and, now Marrion's turn ---->
Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, when you talk, I wonder if you would look at me, we might be able to hear a little bit better[B]. Would you tell us what else you did?
Mr. BAKER - As I finished [B]going all around this building here and then I came to this sign and I looked up there to see if I could find anybody hiding up there and I started up these steps, it is a ladder there on that sign, and I got on, say, 10 feet up there and I came back down, I seen that nobody would shoot from up there. He wouldn't have no place to hold on.
Mr. BELIN - By that you are referring to climbing the ladder to climb up the sign, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; this large Hertz sign here.[/B][/B]
Two liars pretending all over again (guess the 2nd floor phantom lunchroom encounter hoax needed topping, pun intended, atop an otherwise LOCKED roof).
Far cry, Marrion Baker, from your honest to goodness actual encounter on the stairway eh mate? Surely you understand the major difference between the stairway and a lunchroom clear across the floor some 30' feet away from the stairway...
And, you, Roy Truly, Freudian slip? ---->
Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.
Even LBJ and JEH, some six days after the assassination, place the wrongly accused at the front entrance of the building on the first floor when legitimately encountered by police, but a hastily contrived script concocted to FRAME an innocent party reared its sinister head, starring a lying trio (Mrs. Reid, Roy Truly & Marrion Baker).
Say again ----> Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.
*Even IF the following were true (it isn't, because Marilyn Stizman's new position in the time she took it was far behind a racing lawman well ahead of her movements) ---->
Again, DCS Deputy JohnWiseman's own testimony places him at least 5 minutes behind TSBD BuildingSuperintendent RoyTruly and DPD Officer MarrionBaker when he began his floor by floor search of the TSBD
*Q: How could one individual, let alone two individuals claiming to be upon the roof, engaged in professed activities like climbing a HUGH bright structure, and standing upon a toehold, looking at spectators below go unnoticed?!
A: The answer to why not a single spectator below (not even one) in the photo shared, is frantically extending their arms pointing their fingers upward, nor YELLING out the lying tandem's position is because there was no reason to. The weasels simply LIED about being atop an otherwise LOCKED roof.
and, most telling--as I anticipated your response--How do you account for Roy Truly's exchange here---->
Mr. Ball.
You have no exact memory as to the time you discovered he was not there?
Mr. Truly.
No, sir; I didn't believe after thinking things over--it was over in 15 or 20 minutes after the shots were fired, but after retracing my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, I would have to say that it was farther along in the day than I had believed, so it could have been I or 1:05 or something like that
Even IF we pretend Dallas Deputy Sheriff John "An Honest To Goodness Lawman" moved at the pace of a turtle, surly he would have eventually made it up those backstairs before a newly revised lie by yours TRULY, quote, my trip to the roof and the time delay and back, fully elapsed...
No matter which lie liar Roy Truly goes with, a lie is still a lie.
Which lie is it, Roy Truly?,
An extended stay on the roof to fit Dave Ball's leading the witness to a desired outcome?,
Or, a gross mistake on your part never knowing the roof tale would ever be called into question by not just Sheriff Wiseman (John), but also three other different individuals right on your lying heels that afternoon, who also found the roof inaccessible?! Those four (4) aforementioned individuals who found the roof inaccessible does not even include Dallas Fire Department personnel from Fire Station No. 3, and what they also encountered at 1:33PM that afternoon.
Too late to retract that, quote, "Over 5 minutes" upon the roof eh?, let alone Dave Ball's widening of the goal-post even further.
[FONT=&]O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive! --Sir Walter Scott[/FONT]
Try as I might, I still cannot see the lying tandem performing any of the multiple activities they said they were engaged in upon an otherwise LOCKED roof ----> Peek-a-boo, Roy Truly?
Note the digital-clock reading on the Hertz sign atop the roof, yet no signs of Baker & Truly looking out over Dealey Plaza as they claim ----->
Mr. BELIN. What did you do on the roof?
Mr. TRULY. We ran immediately to the west side of the building. There is a wall around the building that you cannot see over without getting your foot between the mortar of the stones and, or some such toehold. We did that and looked over the ground and the railroad tracks below. There we saw many officers and a lot of spectators, people running up and down.
and, now Marrion's turn ---->
Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, when you talk, I wonder if you would look at me, we might be able to hear a little bit better[B]. Would you tell us what else you did?
Mr. BAKER - As I finished [B]going all around this building here and then I came to this sign and I looked up there to see if I could find anybody hiding up there and I started up these steps, it is a ladder there on that sign, and I got on, say, 10 feet up there and I came back down, I seen that nobody would shoot from up there. He wouldn't have no place to hold on.
Mr. BELIN - By that you are referring to climbing the ladder to climb up the sign, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; this large Hertz sign here.[/B][/B]
Two liars pretending all over again (guess the 2nd floor phantom lunchroom encounter hoax needed topping, pun intended, atop an otherwise LOCKED roof).
Far cry, Marrion Baker, from your honest to goodness actual encounter on the stairway eh mate? Surely you understand the major difference between the stairway and a lunchroom clear across the floor some 30' feet away from the stairway...
And, you, Roy Truly, Freudian slip? ---->
Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.
Even LBJ and JEH, some six days after the assassination, place the wrongly accused at the front entrance of the building on the first floor when legitimately encountered by police, but a hastily contrived script concocted to FRAME an innocent party reared its sinister head, starring a lying trio (Mrs. Reid, Roy Truly & Marrion Baker).
Say again ----> Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.