25-03-2010, 09:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 25-03-2010, 10:48 PM by James H. Fetzer.)
JUDYTH REPLIES ABOUT LEE'S DYSLEXIA:
If dyslexia is a learning disorder that manifests itself as a difficulty with reading, spelling, and sometimes mathematics, that suggests that either Lee didn't read or he wasn't dyslexic. This looks like an area of inquiry that warrants further exploration.
THE STATEMENT SUGGESTS AN 'EITHER-OR' SITUATION THAT DOES NOT EXIST:
Dyslexia is a learning disorder, but it has a range of severity. For example, Lee's spelling was bad because he couldn't transfer letters in the right order at all times WHEN HE WAS PHYSICALLY WRITING THEM.
SOMETIMES that made him mis-read a word. But not often. His problem was transferring words to paper, as in a spelling test. He got good --sometimes superior -- grades in reading -- and terrible grades in spelling.
But reading and writing are two different areas of dylexic problems.
Example:
Can you read the sentence below?
The b_st th_ngs in l_fe are Fr_e.
Yes, you can probably read everything!
Y_s, you c_n pr_b_bly read ever_th_ng!
As an intelligent dyslexic of a certain type reads, he can get better and better at filling in the blanks, so to speak, especially of familiar words.
JUDYTH REPLIES TO LOLA ON DYSLEXIA:
But I don't think that you can suffer from a mild form of dyslexia and at THE SAME TIME love reading.
==But it's true...His letters prove spelling problems of the usual kind associated with mild dyslexia....But he is on record as having taken out oodles of books, difficult reading, too....He used a dictionary constantly to avoid spelling errors...
You can hear Lee reading a text over in Russia if you go to the website I think it's called LEE HARVEY OSWALD IN MINSK by Peter Wronke. You can hear Lee readng clearly and cleanly and then hits a hard word -- which was "matriculation" -- and he says he'll look it up in the dictionary.
i have medals in baskeball, swimming, volleyball, and all-round athletics from University of Florida...Even a medal in baskeball though I'm only 5' 2"!
Did I avoid basketball because I was short?
But I don't think that you can suffer from a mild form of dyslexia and at THE SAME TIME love reading.
==Yes, he did, and yes, he did==
It is possible that due to him being forced to use his right hand when his natural inclination was to use his left hand might had had an averse influence?
==This is a probably the original source of his dyslexia, yes, as his earliest grades were sraight A's and it probably took a little time to train the other side of his brain to adapt, which it did==
He loved classical music and chess and was very good at chess...Here we see him simulating he other side of the brain, which had to help...==
JVB
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"In 95% of right-handers, the left side of the brain is dominant for language. Even in 60-70% of left-handers, the left side of brain is used for language. Back in the 1860s and 1870s, two neurologists (Paul Broca and Karl Wernicke) observed that people who had damage to a particular area on the left side of the brain had speech and language problems. People with damage to these areas on the right side usually did not have any language problems. The two language areas of the brain that are important for language now bear their names: Broca's area and Wernicke's area."
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Wikepedia: "Dyslexia[1] is a learning disorder that manifests itself as a difficulty with reading, spelling and in some cases mathematics. It is separate and distinct from reading difficulties resulting from other causes, such as a non-neurological deficiency with vision or hearing, or from poor or inadequate reading instruction.[2] It is estimated that dyslexia affects between 5% and 17% of the U.S. population.[3]"
Sorry, Professor Fetzer. Norman Mailer wrote about Oswald's dyslexia in his book Oswald's Tale, published in 1995.
And I did respond to Judyth.
Kathy C
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Mary Ferrell told me that LHO was dyslexic in 1975. I had to ask what the word meant,
and she explained. Mary discovered it by having read every writing attributed to him.
It is reported in many books.
Jack
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This is my one and only entry into this quagmire.
Oswald was never diagnosed as dyslexic. I'd say there was good reason for this: he wasn't. It is primarily a READING disability. Any spelling problems are secondary to that - if they exist at all. A tell-tale sign of dyslexia in adults is avoidance of reading. Does that sound like Oswald to anyone?
In my opinion - and bear in mind that I'm not qualified enough to even legally tie my own shoelaces, so take it as you will - Oswald had Asperger's Syndrome. At least this explains ALL of Oswald's peccadillos - unlike dyslexia which would have to include a problem he did NOT have in order for it to be even a semi-valid diagnosis.
So why wasn't he diagnosed with this syndrome, I hear you cry? Simply because it was not recognised in the US until the '70s.
Any disputes over who stated he had dyslexia first is like wanting to lay claim to being the first to say the beatles would be a flop.
If you want to understand Oswald ( a ) research Asperger's & ( b ) look at the qualities and experiences he had which would make him attractive to certain types running certain operations - and then look at what operations were occuring at certain times which would fit Oswald's movements & actions.
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If dyslexia is a learning disorder that manifests itself as a difficulty with reading, spelling, and sometimes mathematics, that suggests that either Lee didn't read or he wasn't dyslexic. This looks like an area of inquiry that warrants further exploration.
THE STATEMENT SUGGESTS AN 'EITHER-OR' SITUATION THAT DOES NOT EXIST:
Dyslexia is a learning disorder, but it has a range of severity. For example, Lee's spelling was bad because he couldn't transfer letters in the right order at all times WHEN HE WAS PHYSICALLY WRITING THEM.
SOMETIMES that made him mis-read a word. But not often. His problem was transferring words to paper, as in a spelling test. He got good --sometimes superior -- grades in reading -- and terrible grades in spelling.
But reading and writing are two different areas of dylexic problems.
Example:
Can you read the sentence below?
The b_st th_ngs in l_fe are Fr_e.
Yes, you can probably read everything!
Y_s, you c_n pr_b_bly read ever_th_ng!
As an intelligent dyslexic of a certain type reads, he can get better and better at filling in the blanks, so to speak, especially of familiar words.
JUDYTH REPLIES TO LOLA ON DYSLEXIA:
But I don't think that you can suffer from a mild form of dyslexia and at THE SAME TIME love reading.
==But it's true...His letters prove spelling problems of the usual kind associated with mild dyslexia....But he is on record as having taken out oodles of books, difficult reading, too....He used a dictionary constantly to avoid spelling errors...
You can hear Lee reading a text over in Russia if you go to the website I think it's called LEE HARVEY OSWALD IN MINSK by Peter Wronke. You can hear Lee readng clearly and cleanly and then hits a hard word -- which was "matriculation" -- and he says he'll look it up in the dictionary.
i have medals in baskeball, swimming, volleyball, and all-round athletics from University of Florida...Even a medal in baskeball though I'm only 5' 2"!
Did I avoid basketball because I was short?
But I don't think that you can suffer from a mild form of dyslexia and at THE SAME TIME love reading.
==Yes, he did, and yes, he did==
It is possible that due to him being forced to use his right hand when his natural inclination was to use his left hand might had had an averse influence?
==This is a probably the original source of his dyslexia, yes, as his earliest grades were sraight A's and it probably took a little time to train the other side of his brain to adapt, which it did==
He loved classical music and chess and was very good at chess...Here we see him simulating he other side of the brain, which had to help...==
JVB
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"In 95% of right-handers, the left side of the brain is dominant for language. Even in 60-70% of left-handers, the left side of brain is used for language. Back in the 1860s and 1870s, two neurologists (Paul Broca and Karl Wernicke) observed that people who had damage to a particular area on the left side of the brain had speech and language problems. People with damage to these areas on the right side usually did not have any language problems. The two language areas of the brain that are important for language now bear their names: Broca's area and Wernicke's area."
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Wikepedia: "Dyslexia[1] is a learning disorder that manifests itself as a difficulty with reading, spelling and in some cases mathematics. It is separate and distinct from reading difficulties resulting from other causes, such as a non-neurological deficiency with vision or hearing, or from poor or inadequate reading instruction.[2] It is estimated that dyslexia affects between 5% and 17% of the U.S. population.[3]"
James H. Fetzer Wrote:Greg, Interesting suggestion. I am starting to put together the personality and character of "the two Oswalds", neither of whom, as I understand it, would appear to have Asperger syndrome. Dawn has described the one known as "Lee" as hot-tempered and non-intellectual, having no interest in Marxism and incapable of speaking Russian. The one known as "Harvey", by contrast, is of a calm and intellectual demeanor, fluent in Russian and interested in political philosophy. Moreover, "Harvey", in particular, had a wife and even a girlfriend, from what Judyth has to tell us, which does not support the notion that he was socially inept. There still appears to be considerable room for questions about these identifications. Judyth, for example, who (according to Jack) knew the one called "Harvey" in New Orleans (who called himself "Lee") had a Cajun accent and hated the name "Harvey". According to Jack, however, Judyth knew "Harvey" who was Hungarian and liked the name "Harvey". It would appear that they cannot both be right, even about "Harvey". If dyslexia is a learning disorder that manifests itself as a difficulty with reading, spelling, and sometimes mathematics, it suggests that either "Harvey" didn't read or he wasn't dyslexic. This looks like an area of inquiry that warrants further exploration.
Asperger syndrome
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Asperger syndrome
Classification and external resources
Seated boy facing 3/4 away from camera, looking at a ball-and-stick model of a molecular structure. The model is made of colored magnets and steel balls.
People with Asperger's often display intense interests, such as this boy's fascination with molecular structure.
ICD-10 F84.5
ICD-9 299.80
OMIM 608638
DiseasesDB 31268
MedlinePlus 001549
eMedicine ped/147
MeSH F03.550.325.100
Asperger syndrome is an autism spectrum disorder, and people with it therefore show significant difficulties in social interaction, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests. It differs from other autism spectrum disorders by its relative preservation of linguistic and cognitive development. Although not required for diagnosis, physical clumsiness and atypical use of language are frequently reported.[1][2]
Asperger syndrome is named for the Austrian pediatrician Hans Asperger who, in 1944, described children in his practice who lacked nonverbal communication skills, demonstrated limited empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy.[3] Fifty years later, it was standardized as a diagnosis, but many questions remain about aspects of the disorder.[4] For example, there is doubt about whether it is distinct from high-functioning autism (HFA);[5] partly because of this, its prevalence is not firmly established.[1] The diagnosis of Asperger's has been proposed to be eliminated, replaced by a diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder on a severity scale.[6]
The exact cause is unknown, although research supports the likelihood of a genetic basis; brain imaging techniques have not identified a clear common pathology.[1] There is no single treatment, and the effectiveness of particular interventions is supported by only limited data.[1] Intervention is aimed at improving symptoms and function. The mainstay of management is behavioral therapy, focusing on specific deficits to address poor communication skills, obsessive or repetitive routines, and physical clumsiness.[7] Most individuals improve over time, but difficulties with communication, social adjustment and independent living continue into adulthood.[4] Some researchers and people with Asperger's have advocated a shift in attitudes toward the view that it is a difference, rather than a disability that must be treated or cured.[8]
[quote name='Greg Parker' post='187787' date='Mar 25 2010, 07:08 AM'][quote name='Jack White' post='187641' date='Mar 24 2010, 02:13 PM'][quote name='Kathleen Collins' post='187634' date='Mar 24 2010, 02:30 AM'][quote name='James H. Fetzer' post='187621' date='Mar 24 2010, 02:17 AM']The only source of which I am aware for the information that Lee Harvey Oswald was dyslexic is Judyth Vary Baker.]
Sorry, Professor Fetzer. Norman Mailer wrote about Oswald's dyslexia in his book Oswald's Tale, published in 1995.
And I did respond to Judyth.
Kathy C
[/quote]
Mary Ferrell told me that LHO was dyslexic in 1975. I had to ask what the word meant,
and she explained. Mary discovered it by having read every writing attributed to him.
It is reported in many books.
Jack
[/quote]
This is my one and only entry into this quagmire.
Oswald was never diagnosed as dyslexic. I'd say there was good reason for this: he wasn't. It is primarily a READING disability. Any spelling problems are secondary to that - if they exist at all. A tell-tale sign of dyslexia in adults is avoidance of reading. Does that sound like Oswald to anyone?
In my opinion - and bear in mind that I'm not qualified enough to even legally tie my own shoelaces, so take it as you will - Oswald had Asperger's Syndrome. At least this explains ALL of Oswald's peccadillos - unlike dyslexia which would have to include a problem he did NOT have in order for it to be even a semi-valid diagnosis.
So why wasn't he diagnosed with this syndrome, I hear you cry? Simply because it was not recognised in the US until the '70s.
Any disputes over who stated he had dyslexia first is like wanting to lay claim to being the first to say the beatles would be a flop.
If you want to understand Oswald ( a ) research Asperger's & ( b ) look at the qualities and experiences he had which would make him attractive to certain types running certain operations - and then look at what operations were occuring at certain times which would fit Oswald's movements & actions.
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