Gladio's tentacles

[Jan Klimkowski]

I've taken the liberty of extracting some important posts from the Piper trainwreck, and creating a dedicated thread here.

Starting with Anthony Thorne's excellent contribution.

The relevance and potential ongoing use of Gladio was astutely noted by Italian Judge Imposimato a few months back. Like all discussion of Gladio, his comments were ignored by the mainstream media.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/09/president-of-the-supreme-court-of-italy-to-refer-911-crimes-to-international-criminal-court.html

I'm curious to read more about the Permindex role in Gladio. As of late, I've been interested more recently in potential links overt and covert between Gladio and the Rand Corporation, and how those links may still be active today. If you Google 'Gladio Rand Corporation' a variety of pages come up noting links between the two regarding certain figures. François de Grossouvre, the leader of the active Gladio segment located around Lyon, France, reportedly maintained links with the Rand Corporation during his later exile in the US, prior to his April 1994 suicide that involved two bullets to his head. Elsewhere, Constantin Melnik, the onetime head of the Service de Documentation Extérieure et de Contre-Espionnage (SDECE), and creator of the state-sponsored Red Hand terrorists that committed false flag attacks during the Algerian war, is quoted at the following link

http://www.philipcoppens.com/stateterrorism_2.html

"What Constantin Melnik does not dispute... is that he received his training from the Rand Corporation."

The likely involvement of the Rand Corp in Gladio becomes clearer as you scan through related info. Various Rand Corp publications, old and new, seem designed to serve as useful propaganda. John Arquilla, a professor of defence analysis at the Naval Postgrad School in Monterey, California, and a Rand terrorism consultant', published a 1999 monograph entitled Countering the New Terrorism'…

http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR989.html

At the time of publication, Arquilla clearly smelt something in the wind. According to the Rand site, Arquilla's book "Traces the recent evolution of international terrorism against civilian and U.S. military targets, looks ahead to where terrorism is going, and assesses how it might be contained", while noting that "…changes in the sources and nature of terrorism may affect the use of unconventional terror. The authors propose counterterrorism strategies that address the growing problem of homeland defence." In plain English, these newly evolved international terrorist groups' located by Rand expert Arquilla are considered likely to undertake unconventional' attacks against civilian and military targets inside the homeland' in the near future. When those attacks finally took place in 2001, Arquilla responded with the following:

"When conventional military operations and bombing failed to defeat the Mau Mau insurgency in Kenya in the 1950's, the British formed teams of friendly Kikuyu tribesmen who went about pretending to be terrorists. These pseudo gangs', as they were called, swiftly threw the Mau Mau on the defensive, either by befriending and then ambushing bands of fighters or by guiding bombers to the terrorists' camps."

Arquilla suggests that western intelligence should copy the tactic to help defeat contemporaneous terror networks. "What worked in Kenya a half-century ago has a wonderful chance of undermining trust and recruitment among today's terror networks. Forming new pseudo gangs should not be difficult." Making reference to John Walker Lindh, Arquilla notes, "If a confused young man from Marin County can join up with Al Qaeda, think what professional operatives might do". As with the PNAC document, you have to wonder at times who the intended readership of these documents really were, and whether they were intended to be taken as a green light rather than simple academic observations.

The above seems more telling to me in light of the following. In 1972, the Rand Corporation harnessed their respective think tanks and academic personnel to initiate the 'RAND Database of Worldwide Terrorism Incidents'. From the following page -

http://www.rand.org/nsrd/projects/terrorism-incidents.html

"For 40 years, the RAND Corporation has been at the forefront of terrorism and counter-terrorism studies. In support of this work, RAND has developed and maintained a database of terrorism incidents stretching back to 1972, which is widely regarded as the gold standard for comprehensive information on international and domestic terrorism. Over the years, many public and private sponsors have contributed to the maintenance of the RAND Database of Worldwide Terrorism Incidents (RDWTI) and its predecessors, the RAND Terrorism Chronology and the RAND-MIPT Terrorism Incident Database."

Unsurprisingly, the database doesn't mention Gladio. The Rand chronology dates the beginning of their database to just when the Gladio attacks were running full steam (circa the Peteano Massacre) and a 'crucial' meeting (according to General Geraldo Serravalle, noted in a Guardian quote on the Gladio page at Wikipedia) took place regarding future Gladio strategy. Immediately after this, Donald Rumsfeld left the US for Belgium to serve as the US Ambassador to NATO in February 1973, placing him geographically and strategically in concert with the Gladio actions. Rumsfeld was later the Rand Corporation's Chairman of the Board from 1981 - 1986, then again from 1995 - 1996, overseeing the organization that, through their lauded database and publications like Arquilla's, helped construct the mainstream narrative regarding the sources and exponents of terrorist attacks against the west. (There seem to be various links between the Bush administration and Rand Corp. Steve Rosen, member of the Bush/Rice National Security Council [and later indicted for conspiracy under the Espionage Act] was a predecessor of Rumsfelds at Rand Corp from 1978 to 1982.). Rumsfeld would initiate the P2OG group and set it to follow the counter-gang strategy as outlined by Arquilla. Rumsfeld also oversaw the deletion of 2.5 Terabytes of data pertaining to Able Danger, an operation suggestive of counter-gangs and double-agents operative within the disparate collection of hijackers' that were carefully tracked and shielded from investigation prior to 9/11. I personally suspect the Rand terrorism database detailed above (an exercise in controlling the narrative that apparently stretches across four decades) was initiated at the time that it was for less than benevolent reasons, by people that foresaw how it would be a useful method in the future of framing and controlling the debate regarding terror attacks such as those overseen by de Grossouvre, Melnik and decades later, if not also in the early 70's - Rumsfeld.

[Jan Klimkowski]

To which Phil responded:

Robert E. Webster was associated with Rand Corporation, with the very shadowy Marina and the operation to remove the impediment to government by shadow state.

DeGaulle might have pardoned the mastermind of the assassination attempt, but secrets of Vieil État-Major might have surfaced and like Oswald and McVeigh, Jean Bastien Thiry was martyred.

DeGaulle may count his additional years as benefits he was not targeted by Dulles' production crew.

Greer didn't hot dog on run-flat tires.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Anthony - excellent sleuthing in your post above.

Here's Adam Curtis' 1992 film essay on Rand, from Pandora's Box, entitled To The Brink of Eternity.



Madmen posing as pure rationalists, arrogantly planning for mass depopulation through tit for tat nuclear war.

Finding the facts didn't fit their models, so falsifying the data to ensure the models provide the desired solutions.

If the threat is no threat, but your model of control needs a threat?

If your model Lusts after Terror. Is Driven by Fear.

Then imagine the Strategy of Tension as compartmentalised modus operandi.

[Jan Klimkowski]

And Phil responded re Rand:

In other news, Herman Kahn was employed by the Rand Corporation. Used systems theory and game theory to supercede MAD, devising counters to pre-emptive first strike scenarios.

Conceivably Rand's 1972 counterterror database was a prescient view of the post-Cold War model twenty years hence.

Gladio provided a range of countermoves to Soviet expansion. Its force, unused for its intended purpose, exercised a strategy of tension.

Is Benghazi a helping hand to the Mau Mau. Certainly 911 was strategic tension, opening the gates to extraordinary Federal executive power, neutralization of constitutional safeguards, access to heroin, an exercise for the dogs of war cooped up for too long.

Kahn was thinking of a world Kennedy wanted to dismantle. Certainly a Rand study deemed it more cost-effective to dismantle Kennedy.

As Rumsfeld oversaw consigning terabytes of Able Danger data to oblivion, no doubt there is nothing this side of the memory hole of the calculations of the threat posed by the 35[SUP]th[/SUP] president to the military-industrial complex, the intelligence sword and shield of the powerful, the Federal Reserve, the free flow of narcotics at market prices.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Here's Fritzie:

Mae Brussell: Fritz Kraemer and Gladio

[Peter Lemkin]

Thanks Jan. Gladio and things 'Gladio-ish' are in the top three things IMO to be on everyone's radar now.....and have been for a long time...but mostly have gone unnoticed. If one doesn't understand Gladio, I personally don't see how one can understand covert ops, wars, false-flag and bankster ops, et al....nor the horrible world we are forced to inhabit now. A new year and a good time to clean up the scum...will cost the lives and well-being of most who try to fight the BEAST, but if no one tries, nothing but more decline to the neo-Feudal will ensue - and fast as a rat's ass can run when under fire. hock:hock:

[Jan Klimkowski]

Thanks Jan. Gladio and things 'Gladio-ish' are in the top three things IMO to be on everyone's radar now.....and have been for a long time...but mostly have gone unnoticed. If one doesn't understand Gladio, I personally don't see how one can understand covert ops, wars, false-flag and bankster ops, et al....nor the horrible world we are forced to inhabit now.

Yup.

[Phil Dragoo]

Jan quotes Anthony Thorne's reference at 1 above:

François de Grossouvre, the leader of the active Gladio segment located around Lyon, France, reportedly maintained links with the Rand Corporation during his later exile in the US, prior to his April 1994 suicide that involved two bullets to his head.

Such a peculiar self-administered double-tap came up in researching the suspicious death of Edmond Safra in Monaco December 3, 1999. Widow Lily's second husband died "by his own hand" and two shots:

Billionaire Lily Safra, widow of banker Edmond Safra, is no stranger to mysterious deaths, and a new book details the curious demise of another of Safra's four husbands.


"Gilded Lily," by The Post's Isabel Vincent and due out from HarperCollins on June 29, reveals suspicious details surrounding the apparent suicide of her second husband, Alfredo Monteverde, a charismatic Brazilian businessman who had troubles with depression.


Monteverde died in 1969 of two gun-shot wounds to the chest, but investigators at the time recovered only one bullet, Vincent reveals. They also found no gunpowder on Monteverde's hands at the scene.


PMc - Patrick McMullan Lily Safra




Vincent, who combed through Brazilian police records, discovered that despite their concerns, detectives quickly lost the two main pieces of evidence -- the gun and the single bullet.


Monteverde died after returning from a lunch with Lily, where they discussed divorce proceedings and how to split time with Alfredo's adopted son and Lily's two sons and daughter.

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/strange_...Tlt5eOkrEN

Safra had appeared before Senate Banking in re Suspicious Activity Reports involving his Republic Bank. Allegations that involved 8 billion in laundering of Russian mafia funds were made; not proved. Republic was sold within days of his death to HSBC for ten billion.

Banco Gottardo maintained a branch in the lobby of La Belle Epoque the six-story building in Monaco housing Safra's two-story penthouse, scene of the billionaire's arson-related death. It was said by an Israeli radio host the bank was used by Pavel Borodin to launder Kremlin renovation kickbacks. Borodin was arrested in New York en route to George W. Bush's 2001 inauguration, extradited to Switzerland, bailed by Putin for three milllion.

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Regarding Brzezinski mentioned by Peter at the Mae Brussel thread as "under Kissinger," Brzezinski co-writes with Robert M. Gates the 2004 CFR paper "Iran: Time for a New Approach" effectively rescinding the Bush designation of the "Axis of Evil" followed by the 2007 NIE claiming Iran had no nuclear program. In 2009 the author of the Arab Spring mounted no operation against the Tehran regime. I stipulate the current model requires that token as part of Putin's constellation.

[Magda Hassan]

Some people are just so unlucky in love.....

[Charles Drago]

I see your Lily Safra and raise you Fiona Thyssen-Bornemisza.