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Well, I disagree with that.
For a very long time, the other side used the nostrum: "Well, if there was a conspiracy, why did Bobby say something? He was the man's brother."
Well, with Talbot's book, that was harder to do. With what RFK Jr. said, its even harder. In fact, I would say that now its not possible.
We can always hope for the very best thing to occur. As they say, the best is the enemy of the good.
But in this case, we very seldom get anything like that. So I will settle for this now.
And let us get this interview on the Web, now!
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:The only member of the Kennedy "clan" (terrible word choice, what with it's dual meaning; "family" will do nicely) who can move us significantly closer to truth and justice for JFK is Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg.
Because she is the sole survivor of the immediate JFK family?
IMO even better is that RFK Jr and CKS speaking together.
Yes.
In the fullness of time, a concerted effort among the children of the murdered Kennedys would be highly effective.
But Caroline alone -- eloquent, courageous -- carries the day.
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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:But in this case, we very seldom get anything like that. So I will settle for this now.
We cannot afford to "settle" for anything but truth and justice.
We have been "settling" for too long.
Onanism is for frustrated, caged primates.
Prisoners.
I'm talking about a power play -- a masterstroke of propaganda in service to truth and justice -- targeting hearts and minds simultaneously.
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Caroline definitely has that iconoclastic political truth telling ingredient in her. See for example in her book on famous legal cases, what she writes about the COINTELPRO operations against the anti-War New Mobe of 1969. Incredible stuff you would never read even in the fake-left Z magazine, although the latter acts like they own COINTELPRO as long as there are no assassinated pols involved!
Can't have The Twain meet now can we?
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It is so easy for those of us who have no skin in the game to suggest that the Kennedy's do what we think they should have done long ago. If they went "all in" I can't imagine any outcome that would not be of the Pyrrhic variety for this family.
Let's say for arguments sake that RJKJr and CKS conduct the most effective campaign for truth we could imagine. What would be the outcome? A MSM debate showing "both sides." The final fallback position would be this:
OK, the 'Kennedy clan' has helped us to realize that the Warren Commission was wrong. So what? Besides who did it? Who knows? The mafia? Castro? Some rogue CIA guys? Whose to say? Fifty years have passed and it is the coldest case in the world. But at the end of the day, maybe it's just as well. Let's face it. JFK was a liberal. We would have not have had the opportunity to win the Cold War. Unions would have been running the world. Capitalism would have been dead. Ninety per cent of the country would have been on welfare. The "makers" of the world would have been locked up in concentration camps run by the "takers." Our second amendment rights would be a vague memory. True Christians would be in the concentration camps and the Muslims would have set up sharia a long time ago. If you think our country is in the tank now, just imagine how bad it would have been if JFK had lived. Sad to say, but the guys who killed JFK did us a favor.
Then the whole thing vanishes into the memory hole. The Kennedy family cannot win on this. They lost the battle and the war. And so did we.
Somebody tell me I am wrong.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
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You're wrong.
They did not die in vain.
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Charles Drago Wrote:You're wrong.
They did not die in vain.
Agreed. The murdered ones if nothing more shed the light into darkness providing examples of another world view.
Not in vain as long as we don't participate in the 50 year old conspiracy of silence.
Not in vain if we don't play the games today that empower the Empire of the ST.
Not in vain as long as We do not forget.
Not in vain if you choose to reject the fables and insist on truth in your own life and in your own mind.
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Jim and Charles,
No I do not think JFK died in vain. Far from it. I do think that if the Kennedy family treated the 50th as an opportunity to set the record straight, it would be seen as by the enemy as going to war and the gloves come off. The most likely outcome would be an extended curfuffle with the whole thing blowing over -- just like the MLK family. How many people know or ever care about that story? Is it even mentioned on MLK day?
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Jim and Charles,
No I do not think JFK died in vain. Far from it. I do think that if the Kennedy family treated the 50th as an opportunity to set the record straight, it would be seen as by the enemy as going to war and the gloves come off. The most likely outcome would be an extended curfuffle with the whole thing blowing over -- just like the MLK family. How many people know or ever care about that story? Is it even mentioned on MLK day?
The Kennedys -- including Caroline -- must do more than make one-off statements and disappear.
Members of the King family never were in positions to afford access to hidden material evidence. Nor do they possess the gravitas -- which is to say, the power to touch and embolden hearts and minds -- possessed by certain of the Kennedys, starting with Caroline.
As for the gloves coming off -- I'm not sure that JFK, JFK, Jr., and RFK would agree that they've ever been on.
