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Armstrong's Hypothosis - Harvey and Lee - Applied to Tippit
#21
Myra Bronstein Wrote:
Nathaniel Heidenheimer Wrote:Peter this book has intrigued me for some time now. However I know there are some strong critiques of his work. Is there any way that you could summarize these critiques in a big picture kind of way-- I mean while being fair. Also do you think that parts of the book can stand even if you end up agreeing with the main critiques?

Realize this is sort of a whimpy request but this book is not easy to get and wondering if I should make the effort.

And once the book is obtained it's not easy to read.

I didn't find his book hard to read, but it is NOT the kind one reads more than a few pages of at a time and then stop to think and digest it. It is extremely dense with information - much not to be had anywhere else. Yes, the Tippit piece is a microcosm of the book and its style. Sadly, there was much more information he found he never committed to the book. It certainly puts to bed the idea that Oswald was a loner, a nut, or the assassin - in fact it refutes most everything in the official version - or makes it very suspect in as to how it was 'spun' by the authorities.

Jack, Any chance he will return to this matter or put what other information he has in the public realm at some point?
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#22
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Myra Bronstein Wrote:
Nathaniel Heidenheimer Wrote:Peter this book has intrigued me for some time now. However I know there are some strong critiques of his work. Is there any way that you could summarize these critiques in a big picture kind of way-- I mean while being fair. Also do you think that parts of the book can stand even if you end up agreeing with the main critiques?

Realize this is sort of a whimpy request but this book is not easy to get and wondering if I should make the effort.

And once the book is obtained it's not easy to read.

I didn't find his book hard to read, but it is NOT the kind one reads more than a few pages of at a time and then stop to think and digest it. It is extremely dense with information - much not to be had anywhere else. Yes, the Tippit piece is a microcosm of the book and its style. Sadly, there was much more information he found he never committed to the book. It certainly puts to bed the idea that Oswald was a loner, a nut, or the assassin - in fact it refutes most everything in the official version - or makes it very suspect in as to how it was 'spun' by the authorities.

Jack, Any chance he will return to this matter or put what other information he has in the public realm at some point?

At some point John's materials may be available at a university.

Jack
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#23
Peter Lemkin Wrote:...Sadly, there was much more information he found he never committed to the book....

Any examples that come to mind Peter?
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#24
Myra Bronstein Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:...Sadly, there was much more information he found he never committed to the book....

Any examples that come to mind Peter?

I assisted John in the production of his book. The original manuscript would
have run 2000 pages instead of 1000. He cut out everything not backed by
TWO SOURCES. This included two lengthy and very interesting chapters on
Donald O. Norton and the Ziger sisters. On Norton he only had several
months of his own research, with no independent second source. On the
Ziger sisters, he had only what they told him, with no secondary documentation.
As I recall, he may have left out much about Marguerite
and Robert Oswald that was not documented, as well as remembrances of
LHO by classmates. That's all I remember; there may be more.

Jack
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#25
Jack White Wrote:I assisted John in the production of his book. ...That's all I remember; there may be more.

Jack

Thanks Jack.
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#26
Jack White Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Myra Bronstein Wrote:
Nathaniel Heidenheimer Wrote:Peter this book has intrigued me for some time now. However I know there are some strong critiques of his work. Is there any way that you could summarize these critiques in a big picture kind of way-- I mean while being fair. Also do you think that parts of the book can stand even if you end up agreeing with the main critiques?

Realize this is sort of a whimpy request but this book is not easy to get and wondering if I should make the effort.

And once the book is obtained it's not easy to read.

I didn't find his book hard to read, but it is NOT the kind one reads more than a few pages of at a time and then stop to think and digest it. It is extremely dense with information - much not to be had anywhere else. Yes, the Tippit piece is a microcosm of the book and its style. Sadly, there was much more information he found he never committed to the book. It certainly puts to bed the idea that Oswald was a loner, a nut, or the assassin - in fact it refutes most everything in the official version - or makes it very suspect in as to how it was 'spun' by the authorities.

Jack, Any chance he will return to this matter or put what other information he has in the public realm at some point?

At some point John's materials may be available at a university.

Jack

That's great to hear. I know he has 'washed his hands' of this for now, but if you're in contact with him kindly let him know many would love for him to return to his labor of love - no matter the pain - the NATION needs it more than ever!
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#27
I have long believed that Tippit's assignment was to go to LHO's rooming house and shoot him. Keep in mind that Earlene Roberts saw a cop car outside the house and then Oswald took off. Then Tippit was killed by conspirators for failing in his mission, imo. Reading that he basically said goodbye to his son that morning convinces me that he had a role and that it concerned Harvey or Lee. (And Ms. Roberts would soon die under possibly suspicious circumstances)

Dawn
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If you read only ONE book on the assassination, H&L is the one to read.

The ONLY conclusion of the Warren Commission is that Lee Harvey Oswald,
acting alone, shot JFK.

The irrefutable conclusion of anyone reading H&L is that Lee Harvey Oswald
did NOT shoot JFK. Armstrong's 12-year accumulation of all known evidence
concerning LHO is logically presented in the ONLY way that it makes sense,
as two parallel timelines that show that two persons using that name were
in different places at the same time from a very early age. And at that
very early age, another player was introduced, a second Marguerite Oswald,
for the young Oswald doppelganger also needed a mother. The evidence
of a second Marguerite is even more easily shown by Armstrong, since
they only superficially resembled each other, and records are clear that
they co-existed.

Once you follow the 1000 pages of parallel timelines, you reach the
inescapable conclusion that SOME AGENCY had an interest in creating
dual identities for pairs of young men for some purpose LONG BEFORE
1963.

If you read only one book on the assassination, this is the one to read.

Jack

Sorry that I am jumping in so late on this topic, but I want to ask Jack, and others, if they have ever heard of this:

There was supposed to have been a Polish Military Intelligence operative, prior to World War II or of that time, I believe, who devised a plot to assassinate someone - don't know who - by using twins, or doubles, as patsies or as potential suspects to confuse investigators.

I don't have much more information than this, but I understand that his name, and not much else, is mentioned in The Game of the Foxes by Ladislas Farago. This book is based on microfilmed copies made by the US Army of the Nazi Abwehr (spy agency) files which he discovered stored in the National Archives in Washington, D.C. Farago worked in US Intelligence during WWII.

Adele
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Adele Edisen Wrote:
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Jack White Jack White is offline
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If you read only ONE book on the assassination, H&L is the one to read.

The ONLY conclusion of the Warren Commission is that Lee Harvey Oswald,
acting alone, shot JFK.

The irrefutable conclusion of anyone reading H&L is that Lee Harvey Oswald
did NOT shoot JFK. Armstrong's 12-year accumulation of all known evidence
concerning LHO is logically presented in the ONLY way that it makes sense,
as two parallel timelines that show that two persons using that name were
in different places at the same time from a very early age. And at that
very early age, another player was introduced, a second Marguerite Oswald,
for the young Oswald doppelganger also needed a mother. The evidence
of a second Marguerite is even more easily shown by Armstrong, since
they only superficially resembled each other, and records are clear that
they co-existed.

Once you follow the 1000 pages of parallel timelines, you reach the
inescapable conclusion that SOME AGENCY had an interest in creating
dual identities for pairs of young men for some purpose LONG BEFORE
1963.

If you read only one book on the assassination, this is the one to read.

Jack

Sorry that I am jumping in so late on this topic, but I want to ask Jack, and others, if they have ever heard of this:

There was supposed to have been a Polish Military Intelligence operative, prior to World War II or of that time, I believe, who devised a plot to assassinate someone - don't know who - by using twins, or doubles, as patsies or as potential suspects to confuse investigators.

I don't have much more information than this, but I understand that his name, and not much else, is mentioned in The Game of the Foxes by Ladislas Farago. This book is based on microfilmed copies made by the US Army of the Nazi Abwehr (spy agency) files which he discovered stored in the National Archives in Washington, D.C. Farago worked in US Intelligence during WWII.

Adele

Armstrong's research as I recall did uncover a case of a Russian (Polish?)
use of TWIN army officers in intelligence espionage, but I cannot remember
the specifics. I am not sure whether it is in his book and do not have
time to search it. My new computer does not support many files from
John's research.

Jack
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Jack's reply:
Quote:Armstrong's research as I recall did uncover a case of a Russian (Polish?) use of TWIN army officers in intelligence espionage, but I cannot remember the specifics. I am not sure whether it is in his book and do not have time to search it. My new computer does not support many files from
John's research.

Jack

Thank you, Jack, for your answer.

I shall look into Armstrong's book to see what I can find on this. Thanks.

Those who were in the European Theater of War in WWII could have learned of this trick of the use of doubles in espionage. American OSS intelligence officers probably interacted with enemy and allied intelligence officers during the War, and then became members of the CIA after the War who could have initiated the design of an assassination plan some 20 or 25 years later, using individuals already selected as doubles. ????

Armstrong's Harvey and the other one, Lee, were involved in the deception in the defection to the Soviet Union in the 1950s. One Oswald was in New Orleans when the other was in Japan. Their selection may have been done shortly after birth during the WWII years, One LHO was born in October, 1939.

Adele
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