One police officer on the M.I.T campus was shot dead, according to news reports. This might account for the 2nd death, Pete. The dead suspect is said to also possibly have wounds arising from explosions as well as gunshots. Fox is reporting that "military grade" explosives have been found.
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Commentary from Rowan Berkely at his Niqnaq blog. (Nothing overly new at the link provided but it's the source of his commentary above a reprinted news story, which itself is of value).
I think that with typical FBI psychology they have wrongly focused on the young white guy with the back-to-front baseball cap from the Marathon photos, and gone off after two insignificant white petty criminals. Having gone that far, they might well plant some amateur bomb stuff in their homes and frame them for the bombings, which I think were carried out in an amateur-looking way by professionals RB
Anthony Thorne Wrote:Commentary from Rowan Berkely at his Niqnaq blog. (Nothing overly new at the link provided but it's the source of his commentary above a reprinted news story, which itself is of value).
I think that with typical FBI psychology they have wrongly focused on the young white guy with the back-to-front baseball cap from the Marathon photos, and gone off after two insignificant white petty criminals. Having gone that far, they might well plant some amateur bomb stuff in their homes and frame them for the bombings, which I think were carried out in an amateur-looking way by professionals RB
From what I've heard about the shootout of the two 'named perps' in a car, they were both outnumbered and surrounded and there was NO NEED to start a thousand shot fuselage from the Police et al. It seems the do NOT want these two alive and one is already supposedly dead. Dead men can't tell the truth of who they are...and anything can be invented about them...we've seen this all too often!l There SHOULD be 'take the other alive at all costs bulletins'....but I fear there is the opposite.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
19-04-2013, 12:05 PM (This post was last modified: 19-04-2013, 12:31 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
These 'two' held up a convenience store - and told the man inside they were the bombers....that doesn't sound likely nor believable to me. I smell a false flag something. MSM are saying the two are Chechen brothers who have been living in the USA for about two years. That makes little sense....it might if they were attacking in Moscow or Russia...but in Boston?!...give me a break! Of course Chechens are mainly Muslim - and wouldn't that just wonderfully play into the current fad of Islamophobia!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Peter Lemkin Wrote:These 'two' held up a convenience store - and told the man inside they were the bombers....that doesn't sound likely nor believable to me. I smell a false flag something. MSM are saying the two are Chechen brothers. That makes little sense....it might if they were attacking in Moscow...but in Boston?!...give me a break! Of course Chechens are mainly Muslim and wouldn't that just wonderfully play into the current fad of Islamophobia!
Maybe the CIA or some alphabet agency hadn't paid them for services rendered elsewhere....so they were pissed off or collecting or their family perhaps...
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I really think we need to revisit the topic of an exercise/drill involving private military contractors. From the way officials immediately shouted "it's a drill" when the first bomb exploded, it seems evident that this exercise involved a bomb, possibly a dirty bomb judged by the radiation detector shown in previous posts.
As we know, both 911 and London 7/7 had similar security exercises ongoing that the events actually replicated.
In the London 7/7 the exercise even had the same target tube stations etc. Photos of Met police officers from SO19 (at least one anyway) toting a Heckler & Kock non-fasctory standard assault rifle were discussed at one H & K forum I visited. The conclusion was that the police officer was almost certainly SAS dressed as SO19. Much later all those pictures had disappeared.
None of this can simply be put down to coincidence. It is something more than that. Were the exercises a cover for the real thing or did the perpetrators have inside knowledge and piggyback the exercises?
What is quite clear from the below report is that exercises of this type are very unusual at large marathon events.
In an exclusive interview, I just finished speaking with key Boston Marathon eyewitness and running participant Alastair Stevenson, who has confirmed to me that drills were taking place the morning of the Boston Marathon complete with bomb squads and rooftop snipers.
Alastair's initial statements towards the Alabama news publication regarding the Boston Marathon training exercises ignited a firestorm within the alternative media, despite being only around two sentences in length. Now, Alastair has been given a forum to voice the entirety of what he saw as a participant and coach during the Boston Marathon something that Alastair says he has never seen before despite participating in much larger races around the world.
As you can watch in the video above, Alastair detailed what went on before the race began:
"At the start at the event, at the Athlete's Village, there were people on the roof looking down onto the Village at the start. There were dogs with their handlers going around sniffing for explosives, and we were told on a loud announcement that we shouldn't be concerned and that it was just a drill. And maybe it was just a drill, but I've never seen anything like that not at any marathon that I've ever been to. You know, that just concerned me that that's the only race that I've seen in my life where they had dogs sniffing for explosions, and that's the only place where there had been explosions."
And Alastair is speaking from serious experience. As a veteran of marathons and a coach at the University of Mobile in Alabama, Alastair knows about how marathons traditionally go down.
The interview with Alastair clarifies his former statements regarding the presence of bomb squads and bomb sniffing dogs that went mega viral on the web, and also serves to better understand what the reality is behind this situation. As Alastair details, there was definitely a drill taking place the morning of the marathon, and it appears police were likely aware of a dangerous threat that required a large degree of action to counteract.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
David Guyatt Wrote:I really think we need to revisit the topic of an exercise/drill involving private military contractors. From the way officials immediately shouted "it's a drill" when the first bomb exploded, it seems evident that this exercise involved a bomb, possibly a dirty bomb judged by the radiation detector shown in previous posts.
As we know, both 911 and London 7/7 had similar security exercises ongoing that the events actually replicated.
In the London 7/7 the exercise even had the same target tube stations etc. Photos of Met police officers from SO19 (at least one anyway) toting a Heckler & Kock non-fasctory standard assault rifle were discussed at one H & K forum I visited. The conclusion was that the police officer was almost certainly SAS dressed as SO19. Much later all those pictures had disappeared.
None of this can simply be put down to coincidence. It is something more than that. Were the exercises a cover for the real thing or did the perpetrators have inside knowledge and piggyback the exercises?
What is quite clear from the below report is that exercises of this type are very unusual at large marathon events.
I entirely understand Pete's concerns about this.
Yes, too coincidental for be believed isn't it?
And should be easy enough to resolve but I doubt we will be told who ordered (World of War) Craft to front up for the day. And I doubt the MSM will be asking either.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:These 'two' held up a convenience store - and told the man inside they were the bombers....that doesn't sound likely nor believable to me. I smell a false flag something. MSM are saying the two are Chechen brothers who have been living in the USA for about two years. That makes little sense....it might if they were attacking in Moscow or Russia...but in Boston?!...give me a break! Of course Chechens are mainly Muslim - and wouldn't that just wonderfully play into the current fad of Islamophobia!
Yes, named now and Chechen:
Quote:BOSTON -- The city and parts of its suburbs were locked down Friday as the manhunt intensified for the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing, hours after the other suspect was killed in a dramatic firefight with police in nearby Watertown, authorities said.The fugitive is Dzhokar Tsarnaev, 19, the brother of the 20-year-old dead suspect who was not immediately identified, law enforcement authorities told USA TODAY. Both suspects have been in the U.S. for about a year, living as legal U.S. residents in Cambridge, and authorities are reviewing their possible ties to Chechnya -- an area of Russia plagued by Islamic insurgency, -- said the official who is not authorized to comment publicly.
The surviving suspect is believed to be the same suspect who dropped a backpack laden with explosives at the site of the second explosion.
Massachusetts shut down all mass transit, including buses and trains, in Boston and surrounding suburbs, Kurt Schwartz, director of Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency said. Schools were closed and classes canceled at most universities.
Colonel Timothy Alben, Superintendent of the Massachusetts State Police said the first suspect from Monday's bombing was shot by police in a gunfight following a pursuit that began Thursday night in Cambridge and ended a short time later in Watertown. He said that suspect died at a hospital.
Schwartz asked all businesses in Watertown, Newton, Waltham, Belmont, Cambridge and the Alston and Brighton neighborhoods of Boston to remain closed and al residents of those area to remain indoors until the bombing suspect is caught. Watertown Police Chief Edward Deveau said his town would be closed to traffic.
"This situation is grave," Massachusetts State Police Superintendent Timothy Alben said. "We are here to protect public safety."
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
David Guyatt Wrote:I really think we need to revisit the topic of an exercise/drill involving private military contractors. From the way officials immediately shouted "it's a drill" when the first bomb exploded, it seems evident that this exercise involved a bomb, possibly a dirty bomb judged by the radiation detector shown in previous posts.
As we know, both 911 and London 7/7 had similar security exercises ongoing that the events actually replicated.
In the London 7/7 the exercise even had the same target tube stations etc. Photos of Met police officers from SO19 (at least one anyway) toting a Heckler & Kock non-fasctory standard assault rifle were discussed at one H & K forum I visited. The conclusion was that the police officer was almost certainly SAS dressed as SO19. Much later all those pictures had disappeared.
None of this can simply be put down to coincidence. It is something more than that. Were the exercises a cover for the real thing or did the perpetrators have inside knowledge and piggyback the exercises?
What is quite clear from the below report is that exercises of this type are very unusual at large marathon events.
In an exclusive interview, I just finished speaking with key Boston Marathon eyewitness and running participant Alastair Stevenson, who has confirmed to me that drills were taking place the morning of the Boston Marathon complete with bomb squads and rooftop snipers.
Alastair's initial statements towards the Alabama news publication regarding the Boston Marathon training exercises ignited a firestorm within the alternative media, despite being only around two sentences in length. Now, Alastair has been given a forum to voice the entirety of what he saw as a participant and coach during the Boston Marathon something that Alastair says he has never seen before despite participating in much larger races around the world.
As you can watch in the video above, Alastair detailed what went on before the race began:
"At the start at the event, at the Athlete's Village, there were people on the roof looking down onto the Village at the start. There were dogs with their handlers going around sniffing for explosives, and we were told on a loud announcement that we shouldn't be concerned and that it was just a drill. And maybe it was just a drill, but I've never seen anything like that not at any marathon that I've ever been to. You know, that just concerned me that that's the only race that I've seen in my life where they had dogs sniffing for explosions, and that's the only place where there had been explosions."
And Alastair is speaking from serious experience. As a veteran of marathons and a coach at the University of Mobile in Alabama, Alastair knows about how marathons traditionally go down.
The interview with Alastair clarifies his former statements regarding the presence of bomb squads and bomb sniffing dogs that went mega viral on the web, and also serves to better understand what the reality is behind this situation. As Alastair details, there was definitely a drill taking place the morning of the marathon, and it appears police were likely aware of a dangerous threat that required a large degree of action to counteract.
Yes, the drill is important. The other is why the Lee Harvey Chechen Brothers did not try to leave the area when their photos were broadcast. ALL of Boston is now asked to go home and lock their doors. All Boston businesses are asked to close and all public transit is closed for one man....700,000 persons locked in their homes - amazing.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Consider the following. A prank, nonsense or something far more significant?
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A posting by "Anonymous" claiming inside knowledge:
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I have no way of knowing if this is genuine or not, as I so far can't trace it's origin and check it. Others might be able to do so? To me it sounds a bit breathless and contrived, so I have real doubts about it. Time will tell.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
