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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line
You have to be careful of nutcases like Max Malone and his video. When I commented that his theory could be easily disproven by simply going to the hospital and looking at Jeff Bauman's injuries he deleted my comment and blocked me (Warning graphic horrific gore):




http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=Y-1T-xrYI8Q
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"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Albert Doyle Wrote:You have to be careful of nutcases like Max Malone and his video. When I commented that his theory could be easily disproven by simply going to the hospital and looking at Jeff Bauman's injuries he deleted my comment and blocked me (Warning graphic horrific gore):




http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=Y-1T-xrYI8Q

Yes I stayed away from his stuff. It was too smelly. Aimed at making conspiracy truthers look foolish. They are all over this story. Between them and the media whores exists much confusion. But this thread has made great inroads. And last night one of the networks did go to the hospitals and there were people who'd lost limbs. It was heartbreaking. I lump Malone in the the "there were no planes on 9-11" people.

Dawn
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"Contractors" at Boston Marathon Stood Near Bomb, Left Before Detonation

(Photos) Seen across street after blasts talking with FBI bomb squad. Who were they? What were they and the FBI doing?

By Tony Cartalucci
Global Research, April 19, 2013
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What appear to be private contractors, wearing unmarked, matching uniforms and operating an unmarked SUV affixed with communication equipment near the finish line of the Boston Marathon shortly after the bomb blasts can be seen beforehand, standing and waiting just meters away from where the first bomb was detonated.
The contractor-types had moved away from the bomb's location before it detonated, and could be seen just across the street using communication equipment and waiting for similar dressed and equipped individuals to show up after the blasts.
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Image: An already widely distributed photo showing the contractor-types on the bottom left, just left of where the bomb was placed and detonated. The men are wearing matching, unmarked uniforms, large black bags, and appear to be waiting, separately, and "behind" the rest of the crowd. In the upper left corner, a wooden structure forming one half of a temporary photography "bridge" over the finish line can be seen and serves as a useful reference when establishing the contractor-types' position in other photos.
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Image: After the explosion, two of the contractors seen by the wall next to the bomb, appear across the street, both using communication equipment. This photo too has been distributed and enlarged many times across the Internet. (click to enlarge)
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Image: An unmarked SUV with a considerable amount of communication gear on the roof appears, surrounded by identically dressed men. The vehicle parks near the bleachers. (click to enlarge)
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Image: Event staff and contractors both above and below the bleachers begin tearing up the skirting and appear to be looking for something or retrieving something while casualties are still being treated and evacuated across the street. (click to enlarge)
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The men, numbering between 6-8 then begin tearing up the skirting around temporary bleachers erected for the event, opposite the explosion, before taping it off. Then, what appears to be an FBI bomb squad truck pulls up directly behind the contractor-types' SUV, with a woman clearly wearing the letters F.B.I. on her tactical vest emerging and speaking with the contractor-types. Together they disappear from the scene, leaving their vehicles behind.
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Image: What appears to be an FBI bomb squad truck pulls in, with a woman wearing what is clearly the letters F.B.I. on her vest. She talks with two contractors while it appears a third is partially in the truck's right-hand side. Also note that the area contractors and event staff tore up, is now taped off. (click to enlarge)
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Image: The FBI truck and contractor SUV sit seemingly abandoned neither the FBI agent, nor the contractors can be seen. What they did, or where they went remains so far, unknown. (click to enlarge)
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It should be noted, that with the exception of the contractor-types, all other responders at the scene, including the FBI agent, can be clearly identified, from police to the fire department, to medics and even individuals wearing vests with "B.A.A. Physician" written on them. It should also be noted that no other uniformed individuals can be seen standing near the bomb site aside from the contractor-types.
These men were unidentified, professional contractors apparently augmenting public servants at the Boston Marathon, present before and after the bomb blasts in the direct vicinity of the incident. After the blasts, whether it was their intended function or not, they appeared to be searching for something under the bleachers before being joined by what appears to be the FBI bomb squad. The FBI and the city of Boston has so far categorically failed to provide any information on these highly suspicious individuals.
Questions That Must be Answered
Several questions must be answered by the FBI, leading the investigation on behalf of we, the American people. The first question is who these men were, with large, black bags in the direct vicinity of where a bomb would detonate, moving away before the blast, and appearing directly across the road afterward. Who hired them and what was their function? Why were they moving amongst the crowd in a semi-covert fashion when all other public servants present were wearing proper uniforms and clearly identified? Did police, firefighters, event organizers, and medics know these men were present and what they were doing?
Why did it appear that the FBI was fully aware of their presence, and in fact working with them, specifically with what looks like a bomb squad unit? Were these contractors specialists in explosives, and if so, what is the significance that at least two of them were spotted just meters from where the blast occurred?
Why These Questions Demand Answers
The checkered, frightening history (see: FBI's History of Handing "Terror Suspects" Live Explosives) of the FBI's involvement in fomenting false terror attacks, and even presiding over attacks that succeeded in maiming and killing innocent people, should call into question their presence or involvement at any public event, especially when seen associating with unidentified, semi-clandestine organizations that appear to be private contractors.
Private contractors as well, do not answer or work for the public, but rather the highest bidder. Private contractors, most notably Blackwater and its various incarnations have operated both domestically and abroad, committing obscene crimes and atrocities with seemingly absolute impunity. The term "defense contractor" is in fact a euphemism for mercenary, and has no place in a civilized, democratic world, no matter what their alleged mission statement may claim.
That both of these nefarious entities were present and cooperating in the direct vicinity of the Boston bombings, with at least two contractors standing just meters away from where the bomb actually went off, raises a number of possibilities and concerns. A drill may have been being conducted, though the FBI and city officials have denied this. Or, a threat may have been communicated to event organizers ahead of time, which prompted the inclusion of "auxiliary" security, though again, both the FBI and the city of Boston deny receiving any information prior to the bombings. Whichever contracting firm this may have been, may just have wanted to swindle Boston's taxpayers for an easy payday, and coincidentally found itself in the middle of extraordinary circumstances.
However, alarming suspicion is raised when the FBI makes no mention of an organization it was clearly coordinating with, particularly in terms of bombs and explosives before and after the incident, considering the nature of the attack. When an already dubious organization attempts to obfuscate the facts of any given event, it is the right and responsibility of legitimate law enforcement, public representatives and the citizenry itself to demand and get answers. If we are not persistent, with the FBI's bizarre behavior over the past few days, including inexplicably cancelled and suspiciously rushed press conferences, and now what appears to be a Hollywood ending for the case, we may never get those answers.
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Note: Most images were taken from Flickr user HahaTango, the entire collection of 150 images from the Boston Marathon can be found here.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Boston Bombing: Even the MSM has to Admit the Official Story Doesn't Work Magic Bullet Theory in the Making
Posted on April 28, 2013 by willyloman

by Scott Creighton

Found this on NBC "News' today… they're trying to fix a little problem we noticed a couple days ago… that is, the federal affidavit claims that both brothers rode in the stolen SUV with the secret witness all the way to Watertown. But if that's the case, how come the witness says something else (now) and there happens to be images of the shootout with both the SUV and the Green Honda parked in the street (with nothing stopping them from getting away from the cops at the other end)

"After the Cambridge shooting, the suspects carjacked a Mercedes 350 SUV at gunpoint, according to a federal affidavit. Both suspects rode in the SUV to Watertown, the affidavit says.

However, photographs obtained by NBC News and eyewitness accounts given to NBC News producers indicate that both a green Honda and black Mercedes SUV were parked at the scene of the Watertown shooting. Several people who were near the scene that night said the Honda was positioned behind the Mercedes.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has been moved from the hospital to a federal prison at Fort Devens, Mass., the government said on Friday." NBC News

Massachusetts State Police conducted a reenactment of the scene to see if they could figure out their little problem.

Below is the text of the affidavit and as you can see, there is no mention of the SUV and the other car going to Watertown. This is based on the statement given to the police by the secret witness and police statements from those who supposedly chased the SUV. If they were chasing two cars, don't you think they would have noticed it:


I base the allegations set forth in paragraphs 18 through 27 on information that has
been provided to me by fellow law enforcement officers, including members of the JTTF and state
and local law enforcement who responded to the crime scenes, as well as on publicly available
information that I deem reliable.
18. At approximately 5:00 p.m. on April 18, 2013, the FBI published video and
photographic images of Bomber One and Bomber Two on its web site. Those images were
widely rebroadcast by media outlets all over the country and the world.
19. Near midnight on April 18,2013, an individual carjacked a vehicle at gunpoint in
Cambridge, Massachusetts. A victim of the carjacking was interviewed by law enforcement and
provided the following information. The victim stated that while he was sitting in his car on a
road in Cambridge, a man approached and tapped on his passenger-side window. When the
victim rolled down the window, the man reached in, opened the door, and entered the victim's
vehicle. The man pointed a firearm at the victim and stated, "Did you hear about the Boston explosion?" and "I did that." The man removed the magazine from his gun and showed the victim
that it had a bullet in it, and then re-inserted the magazine. The man then stated, "I am serious."
20. The man with the gun forced the victim to drive to another location, where they
picked up a second man. The two men put something in the trunk of the victim's vehicle. The
man with the gun took the victim's keys and sat in the driver's seat, while the victim moved to the
front passenger seat. The second man entered the victim's vehicle and sat in the rear passenger
seat. The man with the gun and the second man spoke to each other in a foreign language.
21. While they were driving, the man with the gun demanded money from the victim,
who gave the man 45 dollars. One of the men compelled the victim to hand over his ATM card
and password. They then drove to an ATM machine and attempted to withdraw money from the
victim's account. The two men and the victim then drove to a gas station/convenience store in the
vicinity of816 Memorial Drive, Cambridge. The two men got out of the car, at which point the
victim managed to escape.
22. A short time later, the stolen vehicle was located by law enforcement in Watertown,
Massachusetts. As the men drove down Dexter Street in Watertown, they threw at least two small
improvised explosive devices ("IEDs") out of the car. A gun fight ensued between the car's
occupants and law enforcement officers in which numerous shots were fired. One of the men was
severely injured and remained at the scene; the other managed to escape in the car. That car was
later found abandoned a short distance away, and an intact low-grade explosive device was
discovered inside it. In addition, from the scene of the shootout on Laurel Street in Watertown,
the FBI has recovered two unexploded IEDs, as well as the remnants of numerous exploded IEDs.

As you can see, no mention of the second car and they both rode in the car with the victim. But here is the second car in the photographs:



Here are the rest of those images.

The Washington Post published a version of the secret witness' story which is similar, but not entirely to the official version.

According to the report, one of the brothers jumped out of a Honda Civic and reached in through the front passenger side window of the SUV, opened the door and pointed a silver colored semi-automatic pistol at the driver.

The gunman then ordered him to drive to Watertown and was followed by the Honda, the report said.

Once in Watertown, the victim was ordered to slide over to the passenger side, the report said. The two brothers then removed luggage from the Honda and loaded it into the trunk of the Mercedes, the report said.

From there, one of the brothers drove the Mercedes while the second sat behind the victim, the report said. Washington Post

In this version, both brothers pick up the victim at the original carjacking having jumped out of the Green Honda. But instead of riding together, one follows behind in that car til the get to Watertown where they stop for some reason, take luggage out of the Honda, put it in the SUV and then they all go on from there. Again, ditching the Honda.

There are a lot of glaring problems with the official story but this one is pretty big. How do you miss another car altogether? How do you miss two guys hijacking your car instead of one?

Also notice… in the official story, the two brothers are in the car and the victim never drives… but in his story, the gunman makes him drive all the way to Watertown. In the official story he only made it as far as Cambridge.

The only place the officials could have gotten that story to begin with is from the secret witness/victim. He's the only one who was there and was still alive or not incapacitated. That wasn't a statement from the younger brother so it could ONLY have come from the victim. But it was wrong. Demonstrably wrong.

How did he forget he drove to Watertown? How did he forget the first time telling the story about the green Honda that followed them? How could he forget the other brother getting in the car? How could the cops explain the second car in the wild bombs-going-off car chase?

When a witness screws up this badly, it's a big deal. Details this large aren't missed easily not by witnesses and not by police officers chasing black SUVs tossing bombs out the windows.

Is there another magic bullet theory in the making?

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/04/...he-making/
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Michelle Malkin: "Grover Norquist and GOP Linked to Boston Marathon Bombing"
By Eric W. Dolan / Raw Story
April 26th, 2013

The inevitable politicization of the Marabombings has begun, in this instance with true connections drawn in detail by Michelle Malkin a hallucinating pundit no rational animal will believe. Nevertheless, she has performed a public service this time. I can't quite reconcile that. She's supposed to lie, blame Obama and anyone who doesn't run with the "conservative" herd. The simple explanation may be that she simply loathes Grover Norquist, like everyone else. Anyways, the black farce of American political violence continues apace, beyond our control, and I am only an observer in a dark theater with bullets singing past my ears, searching for the "Exit" sign …

For essential, documented background on the same right-wing connections discussed by Ms. Malkin, see http://www.constantinereport.com/gop-tie...hijackers/"GOP TIES TO THREE 911 HIJACKERS"

April 25, 2013

During an appearance on Fox News on Wednesday night, conservative commentator Michelle Malkin alleged that influential anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist was indirectly linked to the Boston Marathon bombing.

"I think of course political correctness has always been the handmaiden of terrorism, on top of that political pandering, and unfortunately neither party has its hands completely free of this," she told Sean Hannity while discussing the bombing suspects.

"If you go on my website right now, michellemalkin.com, I talk more about the first president of the mosque that the bombers attended, Abdurahman Alamoudi, who has ties to the GOP and in particular Grover Norquist that a lot of people in the establishment had never, never condemned," Malkin added. "If this had been a liberal who was tied to it, everybody on the right would be screaming about it. So both parties, both establishments are guilty of not speaking up enough and not doing enough to stop these people."

Alamoudi, former president of the Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge, was sentenced to 23 years in prison in 2004 after confessing to his involvement in a Libyan plot to assassinate Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah. Prior to his arrest, he was an influential financier of political and charitable organizations.

On her website, Malkin claimed that Norquist had worked with Alamoudi to create the Islamic Free Market Institute. She also alleged that Norquist helped Alamoudi obtain access to the White House.

Malkin is not the first to have attacked Norquist for his alleged ties to "Islamic radicals." Conservative activists Frank Gaffney and David Horowitz were the first to accuse the founder of Americans for Tax Reform of helping "Islamists" infiltrate the U.S. government. The Southern Poverty Law Center has described Gaffney as "the anti-Muslim movement's most paranoid propagandist."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/25/fo...n-bombing/
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Rep. Rogers: FBI pursuing persons of interest' in Boston probe

By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:52 EDT

Investigators are pursuing other "persons of interest" who may be linked to the deadly bombings at the Boston Marathon, a US lawmaker said on Sunday.

"There are still persons of interest in the United States that the FBI would like to have conversations with," Congressman Mike Rogers, Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told ABC's "This Week." He declined to provide a number.

Authorities have identified two brothers Tamerlan and Dzokhar Tsarnaev as the suspects in the April 15 twin bombings at the Boston Marathon that killed three people and wounded more than 260 others.

While Tamerlan was killed during a shootout with police days after the attacks, his 19-year-old brother Dzhokhar was captured alive and is being held at a federal prison medical center.

Rogers' comment came as US media reported that Russian authorities secretly wiretapped the mother of the brothers and recorded her discussing jihad in vague terms during a 2011 telephone conversation.

The Russians only turned over the information to their US counterparts in recent days, according to CNN.

A US official with knowledge of the investigation who confirmed the intercept to the US television network declined to confirm who was on the other line.

Asked about the report late Saturday, Attorney General Eric Holder declined to comment, saying it was an "ongoing matter."

Both the CIA and the FBI flagged Tamerlan over possible terror ties after Russian officials contacted the US agencies in 2011.

Reports said Russian authorities had also alerted their US counterparts about concerns that his mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, was a religious extremist, and that she was added along with her older son to a terror watchlist. :gossip:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Rep. Rogers: FBI pursuing persons of interest' in Boston probe

By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:52 EDT

Investigators are pursuing other "persons of interest" who may be linked to the deadly bombings at the Boston Marathon, a US lawmaker said on Sunday.
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this link was passed to me this morning, may be of interest, maybe not, if you've seen before please disregard... warning: some graphic imagery.

http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU
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David Healy Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Rep. Rogers: FBI pursuing persons of interest' in Boston probe

By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:52 EDT

Investigators are pursuing other "persons of interest" who may be linked to the deadly bombings at the Boston Marathon, a US lawmaker said on Sunday.
...

this link was passed to me this morning, may be of interest, maybe not, if you've seen before please disregard... warning: some graphic imagery.

http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

Yeah, that's a good visual summary of the lies and contradictions soon to become lies! Just 'love' the before and after shots of the older brother....murdered and ripped apart in police/military custody! It could be you next!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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No idea if this is relevant or not but it is interesting:
Quote:CONFIRMED (from Brass CheckTV): Katherine Russell (alleged bomber's wife) is granddaughter of Richard Warren Russell, Skull and Bones member and entrepreneur in the energy industry.

Russell's obituary lists Warren King Russell II as son - and that's Katherine's emergency room doctor father.

That means wife had family spook connections as well as husband Tamerlan (Uncle Rusla). And both had fast, dramatic and uncharacteristic conversions to a perverted form of Islam favored by the gangster family that runs Saudi Arabia and works hand in hand with our spooks.

What does a massive coincidence like this mean?

You tell me. All I can do is report the stuff no one else seems to be able to get around to. (Nice in-depth front page article today Washington Post on the "mystery" of Tamerlan that breathes a hint of none of this.)

Katherine reportedly wanted to join the Peace Corps. Maybe she actually joined the agency the Peace Corps is a cover for. Who knows? I sure don't, but it's odd.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

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“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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