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Nothing like attributing a statement to a man you shoot dead in custody. Have the Keystone Cops been resurrected in today's USA?
If this isn;t thrown out by the Judge for the complete nonsense and "hearsay" it is, then we know that it's nothing but a show trial.
Quote:Boston Marathon bombing suspect linked to triple murder case
Tamerlan Tsarnaev took part in 2011 homicide in which three men's throats were cut, according to man later killed by police
![[Image: Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-011.jpg]](http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/10/23/1382517206220/Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-011.jpg) One of the victims of the triple killing was a boxer and friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev (above). Photograph: Reuters
Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was named as a participant in an earlier triple homicide by a man who was shot to death while being questioned by authorities, according to a filing by federal prosecutors in the case against his brother, surviving suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
According to the filing on Monday, Ibragim Todashev told investigators Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was shot dead by police shortly after the bombing, took part in a triple murder in Waltham on 11 September 2011.
In that case, three men were found in an apartment with their throats cut and their bodies reportedly covered with marijuana. One of the victims was a boxer and friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
Todashev, a 27-year-old martial arts fighter, was fatally shot at his Orlando home during a meeting with an FBI agent and twoMassachusetts state troopers in May, according to authorities. He had turned violent while being questioned, they said.
The filing is the prosecutors' attempt to block Dzhokhar Tsarnaev from getting certain information from authorities, including investigative documents associated with the Waltham killings.
"The government has already disclosed to Tsarnaev that, according to Todashev, Tamerlan Tsarnaev participated in the Waltham triple homicide," prosecutors wrote.
According to prosecutors, the investigation into the 2011 murders is reason not to allow Dzhokhar Tsarnaev access to documents.
"Any benefit to Tsarnaev of knowing more about the precise 'nature and extent' of his brother's involvement does not outweigh the potential harm of exposing details of an ongoing investigation into an extremely serious crime, especially at this stage of the proceeding," prosecutors wrote.
Prosecutors also said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was not entitled to the information because his brother's criminal history would be relevant only at a possible future sentencing hearing, if at all.
A phone message left for a spokeswoman for the US attorney's office was not immediately returned on Tuesday night. A message left for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's federal public defender was also not immediately returned.
Authorities allege that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 20, and 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev, ethnic Chechens from Russia, planned and carried out the twin bombings near the finishing line of the marathon on 15 April. Three people were killed and more than 260 injured in the attack.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev faces 30 federal charges, including using a weapon of mass destruction and 16 other charges that carry the possibility of the death penalty.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev died in a gun battle with police as authorities closed in on the brothers several days after the bombings.
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David Guyatt Wrote:Nothing like attributing a statement to a man you shoot dead in custody. Have the Keystone Cops been resurrected in today's USA?
If this isn;t thrown out by the Judge for the complete nonsense and "hearsay" it is, then we know that it's nothing but a show trial.
Quote:Boston Marathon bombing suspect linked to triple murder case
Tamerlan Tsarnaev took part in 2011 homicide in which three men's throats were cut, according to man later killed by police
One of the victims of the triple killing was a boxer and friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev (above). Photograph: Reuters
Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was named as a participant in an earlier triple homicide by a man who was shot to death while being questioned by authorities, according to a filing by federal prosecutors in the case against his brother, surviving suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
According to the filing on Monday, Ibragim Todashev told investigators Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was shot dead by police shortly after the bombing, took part in a triple murder in Waltham on 11 September 2011.
In that case, three men were found in an apartment with their throats cut and their bodies reportedly covered with marijuana. One of the victims was a boxer and friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
Todashev, a 27-year-old martial arts fighter, was fatally shot at his Orlando home during a meeting with an FBI agent and twoMassachusetts state troopers in May, according to authorities. He had turned violent while being questioned, they said.
The filing is the prosecutors' attempt to block Dzhokhar Tsarnaev from getting certain information from authorities, including investigative documents associated with the Waltham killings.
"The government has already disclosed to Tsarnaev that, according to Todashev, Tamerlan Tsarnaev participated in the Waltham triple homicide," prosecutors wrote.
According to prosecutors, the investigation into the 2011 murders is reason not to allow Dzhokhar Tsarnaev access to documents.
"Any benefit to Tsarnaev of knowing more about the precise 'nature and extent' of his brother's involvement does not outweigh the potential harm of exposing details of an ongoing investigation into an extremely serious crime, especially at this stage of the proceeding," prosecutors wrote.
Prosecutors also said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was not entitled to the information because his brother's criminal history would be relevant only at a possible future sentencing hearing, if at all.
A phone message left for a spokeswoman for the US attorney's office was not immediately returned on Tuesday night. A message left for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's federal public defender was also not immediately returned.
Authorities allege that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 20, and 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev, ethnic Chechens from Russia, planned and carried out the twin bombings near the finishing line of the marathon on 15 April. Three people were killed and more than 260 injured in the attack.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev faces 30 federal charges, including using a weapon of mass destruction and 16 other charges that carry the possibility of the death penalty.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev died in a gun battle with police as authorities closed in on the brothers several days after the bombings.
Who writes these 'scripts'?!
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It looks like the 'General Walker' And JD Tippet' part of the story [sic]. He shot at General Walker/JD Tippet therefore he shot the President.
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So far as I can see this has not been posted before. I found it on Cybil (whoops, "Sibel") Edmonds Boiling Frogs Post dated 19th November 2013.
It's been very quiet these past months that, for me, remains a very important story.
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Yes. Sinister and important - and, of course, ignored. The FBI, CIA and other such in USA and 'West' have murdered more in cold blood than all real terrorist entities combined. Friendly fascism, as per Gross.
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Quote:US to pursue death penalty against Boston marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
Prosecutors argue that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev acted in 'heinous, cruel and depraved manner' for his alleged role in twin blasts that killed three and injured more than 250
![[Image: Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev_2613099b.jpg]](http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02613/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev_2613099b.jpg) File photo of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, as the mother of alleged Boston bomber has said she will not attend her son's first court appearance in the United States Photo: AP
By Philip Sherwell in New York
1:05AM GMT 31 Jan 2014
US federal prosecutors are to seek the death penalty against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the surviving suspect in the Boston marathon bombing that killed three spectators and injured more than 250.
Eric Holder, the Attorney General, announced the decision after an extensive review by his officials of the case against Tsarnaev and seeking the views of victims' families and survivors.
"The nature of the conduct at issue and the resultant harm compel this decision," Mr Holder said in a statement released by the Justice Department.
The 20-year-old Chechen-born American is accused of planting two pressure cooker bombs with his older brother Tamerlan, 26, who later died in a shoot-out with the police.
The two Tsarnaevs are also alleged to have killed a college campus police officer while they were on the run three days after committing the bombings.
Tsarnaev, who was badly injured before his capture, has pleaded not guilty to 30 charges, including the four killings and using weapons of mass destruction.
The twin blasts last April were the first lethal Islamic bomb attacks on US soil since the Sept 11, 2001 terrorist atrocities. Fourteen survivors underwent amputations as their injuries were so serious.
After Mr Holder announced his decision, prosecutors filed a formal notice with a federal court in Boston that they were pursuing the death penalty in the case.
They argued that he acted in a "heinous, cruel and depraved manner" with "substantial planning and premeditation" and showed "a lack of remorse" for the victims, including a "vulnerable" eight-year-old, Martin Richard.
Lawyers for Tsarnaev, a college student at the time of the attacks, may argue that he was an impressionable teenage student acting under the influence of his brother, an amateur boxing champion who turned to Islamic extremism.
Massachusetts does not have the death penalty at state level and federal prosecutors there have only sought the death penalty twice in recent decades.
Injured survivors and relatives of the dead were split about whether Tsarnaev should face the death penalty or life in prison, very probably several decades in solitary confinement in a maximum-security jail.
Massachusetts is one of the most liberal states in America and public opinion is strongly against the death penalty in opinion polls.
In the wake of Mr Holder's announcement, Deval Patrick, the governor, said: "One way or another, based on the evidence, Tsarnaev will die in prison. In each milestone of this case today's announcement, the trial and every other significant step in the justice process the people hurt by the marathon bombings and the rest of us so shocked by it will relive that tragedy.
"The best we can do is remind each other that we are stronger ... than ever and that nothing can break that spirit."
Some critics of the death penalty argued that executing Tsarnaev would make him a martyr in the eyes of some. There is already a "Free Jahar" movement, its name taken from his nickname and mainly made up of young women who believe the good-looking young man was a victim of a set-up.
Speaking to CNN in her native Dagestan shortly before Mr Holder's decision was announced, Zubeidat Tsarnaev, the suspect's mother, declined to comment on the specifics of the case.
"The only thing I want to say is, I want the whole world to hear that I love my son, my precious Dzhokhar," said Mrs Tsarnaev, who has consistently insisted that her sons were innocent and were framed.
Even if Tsarnaev is sentenced to die, he could face years or decades on death row while appeals are pursued. The next scheduled court hearing is a status conference with lawyers on Feb 12 but no trial date has been set.
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I'm sure he'll get a very, very fair trial [no way! The Police, FBI, media and even Obama have cast him as Guilty - already tried and convicted - this will be a showtrial]....with all kinds of secret evidence not heard......they want him dead [or at least buried in a maximum security prison with NO access to anyone] ASAP - as dead men don't talk truth.....nor can they leak a story about the truth.
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Quote:Boston Bombings: Tamerlan Tsarnaev Claimed He Was Victim of "Majestic Mind Control"
Jan 3rd, 2014 |
Every time I ponder on the Boston Bombings, the events surrounding it, the history of the alleged terrorists and the way things went down, things do not compute. Everything is shrouded in mystery. The Tsarnaev brothers appeared to be too "Americanized" to hate America; The way both brothers went down is still unclear; Everyone who knew the brothers do not believe the official story; The Martial Law imposed on Boston was excessive. The random house searches by the US Military was disturbing.A recent article in the Boston Globe now adds another strange piece to the puzzle: The eldest brother, Tarmelan Tsarnaev, was convinced that he was a victim of mind control. The article states:"He believed in majestic mind control, which is a way of breaking down a person and creating an alternative personality with which they must coexist," explained Larking. "You can give a signal, a phrase or a gesture, and bring out the alternate personality and make them do things. Tamerlan thought someone might have done that to him."The person inside him, as Tamerlan described it to Larking, "was someone who wanted to control him to make him do something."While news sources point to schizophrenia, the symptoms described in the news articles could be applied to a victim of Mind Control with a trigger-able alter persona.Tamerlan Tsarnaev first heard the voice when he was a young man.It came to him at unexpected times, an internal rambling that he alone could hear. Alarmed, he confided to his mother that the voice "felt like two people inside of me."As he got older, the voice became more authoritative, its bidding more insistent. Tamerlan confided in a close friend that the voice had begun to issue orders and to require him to perform certain acts, though he never told his friend specifically what those acts were."He was torn between those two people," said Donald Larking, 67, who attended the mosque with Tamerlan for nearly two years. "He said that several times. And he did not like it."The truth about Tamerlan will probably never be known as he was shot to death by police. The sequence of events leading to the shooting is still clouded in confusion and key elements of the official story contradict accounts from eye witnesses.
What About Ibragim Todashev?Another extremely troubling fact related to the Boston Bombings is the fate of Ibragim Todashev, a 27 old man who got shot dead by FBI agents while being questioned about the bombings. The events leading to the shooting are still unclear. For this reason, on December 31st 2013, Ibragim's father wrote an open letter to Obama in order to finally get some answers.Abdulbaki Todashev says in his letter that son Ibragim Todashev, 27, knew dead marathon suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev through boxing but had no connection to the bombing or any other crime. He says his son voluntarily went to an FBI office in Orlando to speak with FBI agents four times before they showed up at his apartment May 22.Attorney Barry Cohen said Monday the elder Todashev fears a cover-up and is writing to Obama one father to another to make sure that doesn't happen. He is asking Obama to ensure authorities do not interfere with the investigation. (…)He said his son was a loving son who came to America in 2008 to practice English and met Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at the gym when he lived in Massachusetts.Todashev tells the magazine the FBI "deliberately" killed his son so "he can never speak and never take part in court hearings" and claims the FBI pressured his son's friends also to prevent them speaking the truth.Ibragim Todashev died in May after FBI agents questioning him about his friendship with Tsarnaev allege he lunged at an agent with a knife.
- news.com.au, Ibragim Todashev's father writes open letter to President ObamaWhy was this man, who willfully cooperated with the FBI and who lived hundreds of miles from the bombings, killed? While authorities claim that he attacked an agent with a knife while being questioned, this could easily be a fabricated story to justify a killing.Like many other "elite-sponsored" events, everything surrounding the Boston Bombings is vague, unclear and confusing. And that's the best way to identify a cover-up.
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Quote:Boston Marathon bombing: Tsarnaev's defence team want charges thrown out
Repetitive counts are prejudicial, say lawyers, while prosecutors claim prisoner has made remarks that harm his case
- Associated Press in Boston
- theguardian.com, Saturday 1 March 2014 05.05 GMT
![[Image: 8a2b5dc8-b23c-42e2-89f4-c4b991048f62-460x276.jpeg]](http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/1/1393650237629/8a2b5dc8-b23c-42e2-89f4-c4b991048f62-460x276.jpeg)
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev remains in custody on charges from the Boston Marathon bombing Photograph: Reuters
Lawyers for the Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev are seeking to have multiple charges against him dismissed.
In a court filing late on Friday his lawyers said some charges were repetitive and that the number could sway jurors weighing whether to find him guilty and sentence him to death.
Three people were killed and more than 260 wounded in the 2013 bombing. Tsarnaev is also charged in the killing of a police officer during a shootout days later.
More than half of the 30 federal charges carry a possible death sentence. Experts have said earlier filings suggest the defence may try to save Tsarnaev's life by arguing he fell under the influence of his older brother, who died in the shootout.
US prosecutors said on Friday that an FBI agent overheard Tsarnaev make a "statement to his detriment" when his sister visited him in prison. Prosecutors did not reveal what Tsarnaev said but they objected to what they called an attempt by Tsarnaev's lawyers to suppress the statement.
Tsarnaev made the remark when an investigator working for his lawyers accompanied Tsarnaev's sister to a prison visit, a meeting that was monitored by an FBI agent, prosecutors said. The defence investigator started to explain to Tsarnaev's sister the rationale behind special restrictions placed on Tsarnaev in prison, prosecutors said. They say Tsarnaev, "despite the presence of an FBI agent and an employee of the federal public defender, was unable to temper his remarks and made a statement to his detriment which was overheard by the agent".
The government described the conversation in a memo outlining its opposition to a request from Tsarnaev's lawyers to lift prison restrictions, known as special administrative measures.
Tsarnaev's lawyers have argued that prison restrictions limit Tsarnaev's interactions with people helping his defence team. Prosecutors maintain the FBI agent's presence was permitted by the special administrative measures, which prohibit providing information to people outside the prison.
Tsarnaev's lawyers say the presence of the FBI agent during prison visits by Tsarnaev's two sisters "has thwarted the defence ability to develop important mitigation information".
Prosecutors have argued that the restrictions are necessary in Tsarnaev's case because of his "commitment to jihad" and his "widespread notoriety".
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Quote:Boston Bombings: Tamerlan Tsarnaev Claimed He Was Victim of "Majestic Mind Control"
Jan 3rd, 2014 |
Every time I ponder on the Boston Bombings, the events surrounding it, the history of the alleged terrorists and the way things went down, things do not compute. Everything is shrouded in mystery. The Tsarnaev brothers appeared to be too "Americanized" to hate America; The way both brothers went down is still unclear; Everyone who knew the brothers do not believe the official story; The Martial Law imposed on Boston was excessive. The random house searches by the US Military was disturbing.A recent article in the Boston Globe now adds another strange piece to the puzzle: The eldest brother, Tarmelan Tsarnaev, was convinced that he was a victim of mind control. The article states:"He believed in majestic mind control, which is a way of breaking down a person and creating an alternative personality with which they must coexist," explained Larking. "You can give a signal, a phrase or a gesture, and bring out the alternate personality and make them do things. Tamerlan thought someone might have done that to him."The person inside him, as Tamerlan described it to Larking, "was someone who wanted to control him to make him do something."While news sources point to schizophrenia, the symptoms described in the news articles could be applied to a victim of Mind Control with a trigger-able alter persona.Tamerlan Tsarnaev first heard the voice when he was a young man.It came to him at unexpected times, an internal rambling that he alone could hear. Alarmed, he confided to his mother that the voice "felt like two people inside of me."As he got older, the voice became more authoritative, its bidding more insistent. Tamerlan confided in a close friend that the voice had begun to issue orders and to require him to perform certain acts, though he never told his friend specifically what those acts were."He was torn between those two people," said Donald Larking, 67, who attended the mosque with Tamerlan for nearly two years. "He said that several times. And he did not like it."The truth about Tamerlan will probably never be known as he was shot to death by police. The sequence of events leading to the shooting is still clouded in confusion and key elements of the official story contradict accounts from eye witnesses.
What About Ibragim Todashev?Another extremely troubling fact related to the Boston Bombings is the fate of Ibragim Todashev, a 27 old man who got shot dead by FBI agents while being questioned about the bombings. The events leading to the shooting are still unclear. For this reason, on December 31st 2013, Ibragim's father wrote an open letter to Obama in order to finally get some answers.Abdulbaki Todashev says in his letter that son Ibragim Todashev, 27, knew dead marathon suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev through boxing but had no connection to the bombing or any other crime. He says his son voluntarily went to an FBI office in Orlando to speak with FBI agents four times before they showed up at his apartment May 22.Attorney Barry Cohen said Monday the elder Todashev fears a cover-up and is writing to Obama one father to another to make sure that doesn't happen. He is asking Obama to ensure authorities do not interfere with the investigation. (…)He said his son was a loving son who came to America in 2008 to practice English and met Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at the gym when he lived in Massachusetts.Todashev tells the magazine the FBI "deliberately" killed his son so "he can never speak and never take part in court hearings" and claims the FBI pressured his son's friends also to prevent them speaking the truth.Ibragim Todashev died in May after FBI agents questioning him about his friendship with Tsarnaev allege he lunged at an agent with a knife.
- news.com.au, Ibragim Todashev's father writes open letter to President ObamaWhy was this man, who willfully cooperated with the FBI and who lived hundreds of miles from the bombings, killed? While authorities claim that he attacked an agent with a knife while being questioned, this could easily be a fabricated story to justify a killing.Like many other "elite-sponsored" events, everything surrounding the Boston Bombings is vague, unclear and confusing. And that's the best way to identify a cover-up. There is much truth in this piece. We know that MKULTRA is alive and well. What better way to review the phony war on terror than to employ terror at the historic Boston Marathon?
What a wold we are leaving for our children and grandchildren. Most of whom do not have a clue as to the dark horrors of the invisible government.
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