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Phil Ochs - Dealey Plaza Dupe
#21
That's a beautiful song by Joan and Mimi.They were true "folkies",and not really made for rock music.Joan has a voice that is almost operetta in tone and range.

So,saying that,I won't go into the time that Joan (hanging with Mickey Hart at the time)came onstage at midnite with the Grateful Dead at an 80's New Year show in Oakland,and almost put me in a bad psychedelic trip.:what:
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
Buckminster Fuller
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#22
Keith Millea Wrote:That's a beautiful song by Joan and Mimi.They were true "folkies",and not really made for rock music.Joan has a voice that is almost operetta in tone and range.

So,saying that,I won't go into the time that Joan (hanging with Mickey Hart at the time)came onstage at midnite with the Grateful Dead at an 80's New Year show in Oakland,and almost put me in a bad psychedelic trip.:what:

Keith - you have to expand now.

This is the Shadow Zone.....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#23
Jan

I actually found this show (audio),on Youtube and listened to a few songs and thought they were pretty good.lol

I think it was just all in my head.:rofl:

I especially like this one.The graphics are cool,but destracting after awhile (closed eyes,listen).I think this is the song Joan drops to her knees, in a James Brown soul move,FOR REAL MAN!

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
Buckminster Fuller
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#24
I read Richard Fariña, Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up to Me in college the year it was published (66) thinking the motorcycle death was reminiscent of O'Toole as Lawrence of Arabia (1962). The shenanigans on campus depicted were much of a muchness for we few, los black sheep.

The head of the English Department was only too happy to grant three hours credit for a paper on a hundred Dylan songs, long hours slaving under hot headphones, subject to torrential hyperbole and allusions of grandeur.

Saw Joan Baez in Red Rocks summer of '72 with the full moon rising behind her, a voice of silver from a heart so rare.

Was Ochs' suicide as suspicious as Abbie Hoffman's--he seemed very buoyant between two Chicago cops, he waving a fireplace poker to indicate his liberated zone, relating how he and his friends had given a karate demonstration putting five or seven cops in the hospital.

Regarding the in-and-out, submitted for your approval, Ayers, in that park of outrage fleeing Daley's police army to surface as the early agent of POTUS king of drones.

You know something is happening here but you don't know what it is do you Mister Jones

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#25
Keith and Phil - thank you for two most insightful posts.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#26
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
― Leo Tolstoy,
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#27
Look at how the ears stick out on the guy they think is Phil Ochs in Dealey Plaza and then look at the top left picture in this Google images shot of Phil Ochs. Notice how the jug ears are identical.


I think it's him for sure:


http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2013/...plaza.html



https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site...42YbL-kito



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#28
It's difficult to draw conclusions from such low quality images but it does very much look like him. Has any more research been done on this story?
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
― Leo Tolstoy,
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#29
Another DPF thread on Phil Ochs here.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#30
R.K. Locke Wrote:It's difficult to draw conclusions from such low quality images but it does very much look like him. Has any more research been done on this story?



I'd say Ochs' ROTC/Intel background along with Glover's witnessing qualifies this photographic similarity to a level that satisfies me as proof. I wonder if high tech enhancement and clarifying of the Dealey Plaza shot could match those jug ears to the point of positive identification?

I mean this is huge because it is unquestionable proof of a manipulation that was beyond any claimed sponsor except for those in the US Government of a level that could organize a second level of patsies.

Ochs could have had his brain worked on by those Nazi bastards. After all if CIA was working on ways to break down and destroy enemies, mind destroying chemicals or techniques are well within possibility.

Ochs was going to die anyway. Someone should have asked him who gave him the orders to be in the Plaza that day. :Sherlock:
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