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Albert Doyle Wrote:Gordon Gray Wrote:This is a remarkabley romantic notion. They compromised their position because they felt guilty? Do you really believe those guys in the bleachers at the Bethesda morgue, smoking their cigars, were capable off feeling guilt. These were ruthless people. And they were hell bent on destroying Communism. And they thought Kennedy was one. His approach to Castro was the final straw.
You're seeing proof here that the CIA is an anti-democratic entity whose very existence threatens the integrity of American democracy. When Truman signed it into being he was installing something that by its very nature would necessarily usurp and displace democracy.
Guilt can occur on the unconscious level. If you look at VietNam geographically it is the oriental equivalent of Cuba. Since the US had locked itself out of Cuba with the Missile Crisis agreements VietNam served the psy-ops equivalent of the US placing its proxy state underneath the growing power of Communist China and Russia. I guess the idea was to start a spread of democracy right in the craw of China and Russia just like Cuba was to the US. Psychologically the war hawks got their big bang in the assassination of the president which probably satisfied the feeling of powerlessness under Kennedy. Short of all out nuclear war they were then satisfied showing an American counter to the domino theory in SE Asia.
Albert: I could not disagree more. This counrty never invades another to "spread democracy". That is the myth they spin. Not in VietNam, not in the Middle East, not anywhere. Ever.
As to "guilt": you cannot be serious. These bastards are not capable of feeling any emotion except hatred and greed. Yes they "spun" the "domino theory" while questing for heroin.
If you have not read Dr A. McCoy's seminal book on "The Politics of Heroin and SE Asia", I suggest you look into it.
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I was quoting as they saw it. I think it's probably pretty accurate to what they were thinking.
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Science always does! Regardless of the suppression of evidence, science will always find a way. There is plenty of evidence to prove conspiracy. Do we need any more than that? Cheers!
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Quote:Those who want to know the truth have known it for decades. The initial story was designed to fall apart under the slightest questioning. The problem that we face is that people do not want to know the truth about almost anything. In this internet age learning the truth of almost anything is fairly simple. The apathy of the people is the problem. People go about thier daily lives never questioning the millions of lies they have been told since birth. The plotters know they could count on the apathy of the people and the total complicity of the media.
However if the question is "Will the Government ever tell us the truth?" I say not a chance.
Dawn
I doubt I could agree any more if I tried!
After the HSCA abortion of 1979/Blakey,
the USGovernment has no motivation to ever tell WeThePeople the truth about anything.
The Silence of the People is deafening....
Circa 1967 a high school "current events" teacher wrote on the blackboard BOLD:
"Apathy is killing this country!"
She was and you are right Dawn.
Jim
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
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but when you have been so insulated with lies, the "next, new thing" always catches your eye! "And that will be the truth.
For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." EMK