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How the FBI got 3 shots right and hid it - cd298 thanks to Weisberg
#21
Magda Hassan Wrote:
David Josephs Wrote:

"I'mafraid we were misled," Salandria said sadly. "All the critics,myself included, were misled very early. I see that now. We spent too much time and effort micro-analyzing the details of the assassination when all the time it was obvious, it was blatantly obvious that it was a conspiracy. Don't you think that the men who killed Kennedy had the means to do it in the most sophisticated and subtle way? They chose not to. Instead, they picked the shooting gallery that was DealeyPlaza and did it in the most barbarous and openly arrogant manner. The coverstory was transparent and designed not to hold, to fall apart at the slightest scrutiny. The forces that killed Kennedy wanted the message clear: '
W[B]e are in control and no one -- not the President, nor Congress, nor any elected official -- no one can do anything about it.'[/B] It[B] was a message tothe people that their government was powerless.[/B] And the people eventuallyg ot the message.

We must face that fact -- and not waste any more time micro-analyzing the
evidence.
That's exactly what they want us to do. They have kept us
busy for so long. And I will bet, buddy, that is what will happen to
you. They'll keep you very, very busy and, eventually, they'll wear you
down."


Word.

Ms Hassan and Mr Josephs,
As I recall, the first time I read Mr Salandria's quote was in Mr Fonzi's "The Last Investigation". It hit me like a brick, and stuck to me like glue. Quite powerful.
:director:

Larry
StudentofAssassinationResearch

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#22
Perpetual war was the status quo in Eric Blair-George Orwell's 1984. He died shortly after it was published in 1949.

John F. Kennedy saw the duplicity of Dulles & Co. and vowed to smash their venture into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds. No doubt when Dulles was forced to resign in November 1961 and called E. Howard Hunt in to assist in the creation of The Craft of Intelligence to be complete and in print in 1963, they clinked some bourbon over turning that line.

Are they not the sword and shield of the cabal, the intelligence (read: covert operations then, and a wider array of thought control now) who along with the military and its corporate partners, as well as resource extractors and global business bullies concurred in a Proutyesque fashion that the current occupant had to go.

April 23 Johnson announced Kennedy would attend a luncheon in Dallas in the Fall. The Thomas dinner in Houston November 21 set the itinerary from Love Field to the Trade Mart through Dealey Plaza--well in advance of the fake confusion of routes--these are not confused people.

Oswald was a doppleganger from 1952 according to Armstrong, and manipulated by Angleton per Newman and Pease, shuttled from DeMohrenschildt to the Paines to the Depository, having been under the wing of Clay-Bannister in New Orleans and Phillips in Dallas (per Veciana to Fonzi).

The shooters were likely pros using WerBell silencers working in teams, four or five teams. *

The firecracker was the South Knoll bullet through the windshield into the throat at Z225.

Here we see Secret Service agent Elmer Moore (who would call Kennedy "a traitor") badgering Malcolm Perry to change his public description of the "entry wound" in the throat, followed by both Arlen Specter and Allen Dulles piling on Perry. Specter didn't have to have it spelled out--he knew his job. He was ambitious. It was an historic opportunity to curry favor with the power.

CGI cartoons to the contrary notwithstanding, there is no trajectory making the SBT possible: Sherry Fiester's Chapter Eight spends seventy pages doing a Maria Benitez Flamenco dance on Arlen Specter's magnum opus.

There was a head shot through right temple and out the right occipital-parietal witnessed by 81 by Groden's last count, a trajectory dictating a frontal shot: South Knoll if JFK were looking there; Grassy Knoll if JFK were looking there. The general characteristic is of a professional sniper blowing his brains out without hitting Jackie.

The Commie cop-killer was demonized and allowed to be cut down by the mafia gunrunner under threat of his associates; later he would be taken by injection of rapid onset cancer.

Kennedy was a peacemaker in a time when war was good business. He opposed the Fed at its fiftieth anniversary. He wanted a test ban, detente with the Soviet Union and demarche with Castro.

And he was martyred as depicted so masterfully in James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable.

Hoover's model was expensive--but it's silly isn't it? Isn't it like the bat man who over slept and instead of brushing his officer's uniform, only polished the coins.

McKnight's Breach does show that to paraphrase Frank Zappa, if Americans knew how lame its government was they would slay them in their beds.

Hey, it's how they handled Dorothy Kilgallen.

Her hairdresser knew for sure.

*Gaeton Fonzi, The Last Investigation, page 69:

Thanks to the complicated technology of his silent-kill weapons, Mitch WerBell was central to the development of the talent with the capability to employ those weapons. Out of that talent came the "special teams" concept. Special teams are assassination teams.

It was the special team concept that the CIA used within its own bureaucratic structureselect individuals were stitched together into a tight, top-secret network outside their normal chain of commandto plan the Castro assassination attempts. But the first utilization of that concept had come in 1954 when, according to St. George, a deep-cover CIA team went off to Hanoi under Lt. Colonel Lucien Conein, one of WerBell's "closest lifelong friends." The Conein mission, code-named "Blackhawk," was to harass and decimate the new Communist rulers of North Vietnam. Its orders included the "elimination of Vietminh cadres." Subsequently, similar missions multiplied as CIA Clandestine Services sent out special teams with the authority to kill whenever "circumstances warranted." There were, among others, the "White Star Training Mission" in Laos (James Files), "Operation Lodestone" in Northern Thailand, and "Study Project Minimax" in certain disaffected ethnic regions of Indonesia. Then, in the early Sixties, with the CIA's employment of the hard-bitten hill tribesmen of North Burma, Laos and Southwestern China as "deep penetration" and "long-range reconnaissance" teams into Red China, came large-scale, top-secret U.S. intelligence operations involving unlimited license to kill. Mitch WerBell's business did very well in those days, and Thai King Phumiphon personally hand carved a tiny rosewood Buddha for him.
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#23
But I really like this excerpt:

"Kennedy was a peacemaker in a time when war was good business. He opposed the Fed at its fiftieth anniversary. He wanted a test ban, detente with the Soviet Union and demarche with Castro.

And he was martyred as depicted so masterfully in James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable.

Hoover's model was expensive--but it's silly isn't it? Isn't it like the bat man who over slept and instead of brushing his officer's uniform, only polished the coins.

McKnight's Breach does show that to paraphrase Frank Zappa, if Americans knew how lame its government was they would slay them in their beds.

Hey, it's how they handled Dorothy Kilgallen.

Her hairdresser knew for sure.[:pointlaugh:]

*Gaeton Fonzi, The Last Investigation, page 69:

Thanks to the complicated technology of his silent-kill weapons, Mitch WerBell was central to the development of the talent with the capability to employ those weapons. Out of that talent came the "special teams" concept. Special teams are assassination teams.

It was the special team concept that the CIA used within its own bureaucratic structureselect individuals were stitched together into a tight, top-secret network outside their normal chain of commandto plan the Castro assassination attempts. But the first utilization of that concept had come in 1954 when, according to St. George, a deep-cover CIA team went off to Hanoi under Lt. Colonel Lucien Conein, one of WerBell's "closest lifelong friends." The Conein mission, code-named "Blackhawk," was to harass and decimate the new Communist rulers of North Vietnam. Its orders included the "elimination of Vietminh cadres." Subsequently, similar missions multiplied as CIA Clandestine Services sent out special teams with the authority to kill whenever "circumstances warranted." There were, among others, the "White Star Training Mission" in Laos (James Files), "Operation Lodestone" in Northern Thailand, and "Study Project Minimax" in certain disaffected ethnic regions of Indonesia. Then, in the early Sixties, with the CIA's employment of the hard-bitten hill tribesmen of North Burma, Laos and Southwestern China as "deep penetration" and "long-range reconnaissance" teams into Red China, came large-scale, top-secret U.S. intelligence operations involving unlimited license to kill. Mitch WerBell's business did very well in those days, and Thai King Phumiphon personally hand carved a tiny rosewood Buddha for him.
[End excerpt]

Also isn't it odd that as President John Kennedy offered to make the Space "Race" a cooperative effort, not a cold war contest.
He knew the superiority of US arms and ICBMs over the U.S.S.R.'s capability, the people didn't. The Captive Press didn't tell the people.

Where did the vaunted NASA wind up today? A cooperative effort. Required to hitch a ride on Russian rockets to man the "International" Space Station.
Wonder what Arthur Clarke or Werhner von Braun would think of a space station as reality in cooperation with former enemies?
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
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#24
So how come witness Jean Hill claimed 6 or 7 shots were fired, and some others, maybe 11 shots.
USSS Roy Kellerman in the limousine's front seat said that they were sitting in a "shooting gallery."
And one shot came from the front to hit the President in the right forehead, seconds after another
shot had hit him in the throat. Oswald was really all over the place....

HMMMM????

Adele
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#25
Adele

Malcolm Perry describes entry wound to throat. Secret Service agent Elmer Moore kept Dr. Perry up with phone calls all night long that Friday. Specter forced him to recant; then Dulles said, "This cross looks about right, carry it for the rest of your life."

Perry confided to McClellan the latter thought "they were going to kill me."

And the rodeo clowns taunt, "Why hasn't someone talked?"

A question further addressed in Richard Belzer and David Wayne's hit list.

Jim

Yes, lacking in most accounts of the brief Kennedy presidency is his power to inspire. In his inaugural he spoke of the moon mission. There was the Peace Corps. He wanted to make government service respectable, honorable.

To expand on your reference to NASA, its mission per "Obama" is "Muslim outreach"; consistent with a Muslim DCI and a CIA-supported Islamization of regional regimes to culminate in an Armageddon in Syria.

But to arms dealers, it's just Lt. Kojak's "music to my ears": cha-ching.
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#26
I've always found it significant that a huge number of witnesses heard the last two shots come very close together - some have described it in filmed interviews as "bang-bang" - much too close together to be fired from that particular Carcano with its sticky bolt action.
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#27
Tracy Riddle Wrote:I've always found it significant that a huge number of witnesses heard the last two shots come very close together - some have described it in filmed interviews as "bang-bang" - much too close together to be fired from that particular Carcano with its sticky bolt action.
I have always found it interesting that the presence of rust in the barrel, strongly suggests that gum wasn't fired that day. Along with the makings and the dent on one of on the shells. For me that gun was clearly planted and one wonders if any one was shooting from that window. The only way there could be a single shooter would be if a semiautomatic weapon was used, and different bullets were loaded in the magazine. The bullet or bullets that struck Connolly were penetrating jacketed type bullets, and at least one of the Bullets that struck Kennedy's head was frangible.
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#28
Once you open the "no shooters in the window" theory we are met with a number of witnesses... a good number in that, who saw a rifle, rifle barrel, a shooter, a side-kick, and a walk away..

Not one - if I remember correctly - states they see a scope except for Rowland's WEST SIDE SHOOTER.

The most telling for me - in terms of THAT rifle not being in THAT window is actually Brennen...

Mr. BELIN. Could you tell whether or not it had any kind of a scope on it?
Mr. BRENNAN. Idid not observe a scope

Mr. BELIN. How much of the gun do you believe that you saw?
Mr. BRENNAN. I calculate 70 to 85 percent of the gun.

70-85% and no scope... and he is the STAR witness to Oswald in the TSBD...

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(Other testimony and points well made re: the rifle, here http://www.giljesus.com/jfk/window.htm)

Mr. SPECTER. What is your best estimate of how many inches of the rifle that you observed?
Mr. JACKSON. I saw the barrel and about half--well, I did not
see a telescopic sight
, but I did see part of the stock, so I guess maybe 8 or
10 inches of the stock maybe. I did see part of the stock, I did not see the
sight.

Mr. SPECTER. And how long was the piece of pipe that you saw?
Mr. EUINS. It was sticking out about that much.
Mr. SPECTER. About 14 or 15 inches?
Mr. EUINS. Yes, sir


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