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Posting a stable Towner & Bell gif of the corner turn - Since we really dont have an A/V section
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There are other forums that include a photo/video section yet the same handful of yahoos who infested the EF troll there and ruin serious discussion as well


I was looking for a stablized gif of Towner and did not find one, so I made one that moves around Jackie...

Notice the movement of JFK's shoulders and head as they pass the TSBD front door...

Are there frames missing from this stretch as well.... ??.... There are 28 frames here and between 12 and 13 (between the doorway and the 4th panel of concrete openings) where that WIDE TURN would have been...
Seems to be missing a few frames....

I understand camera rotation will account for the background moving faster based on the change in angle... yet if the limo cut sharply back to the left, JFK (and the occupants) should move to their right as we see JFK do....

Mr. TRULY. That is right.
And the President's car following close behind came along at an average speed of 10 or 15 miles an hour. It wasn't that much, because they were getting ready to turn. And the driver of the Presidential car swung out too far to the right, and he came almost within an inch of running into this little abutment here, between Elm and the Parkway. And he slowed down perceptibly and pulled back to the left to get over into the middle lane of the parkway. Not being familiar with the street, he came too far out this way when he made his turn.
Mr. BELIN. He came too far to the north before he made his curve, and as he curved--as he made his left turn from Houston onto the street leading to the expressway, he almost hit this north curb?
Mr. TRULY. That is right. Just before he got to it, he had to almost stop, to pull over to the left.
If he had maintained his speed, he would probably have hit this little section here



I'm at a loss for how that was removed from Towner.... and how we see the limo in the center of the street in Bell....

Any ideas?



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David Josephs Wrote:There are other forums that include a photo/video section yet the same handful of yahoos who infested the EF troll there and ruin serious discussion as well

Wow! David. So much work in those gifs there. Thank you!

As for not having an A/V section I am unclear what you mean? You can post films in any section here using the film strip icon above, next to the 'quote' icon and the 'tree' image icon. We also have a DPF channel on You Tube if you want any thing posted there just send it to me. We also have a board on the forum further down for videos and photographs. Next to Arts and Books.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
David Josephs Wrote:There are other forums that include a photo/video section yet the same handful of yahoos who infested the EF troll there and ruin serious discussion as well

Wow! David. So much work in those gifs there. Thank you!

As for not having an A/V section I am unclear what you mean? You can post films in any section here using the film strip icon above, next to the 'quote' icon and the 'tree' image icon. We also have a DPF channel on You Tube if you want any thing posted there just send it to me. We also have a board on the forum further down for videos and photographs. Next to Arts and Books.

I was referring to a section specifically for JFK related photos and gifs and their analysis....
as long as it's cool to continue posting images and gifs here in the main JFK section I will continue...

and thanks btw - JFK's movements are also easier to discern in that gif....

As I discussed with Charles when I first arrived... for me it's all about what the images show (or don't show) andhow they are supposed to all work together...

There are definitely more Towner frames missing than just the 5-7 prior to the corner...
It is slightly after this turn that we see Hickey do his thing... he never is asked or comments on this movement... he only begins his reports with his turn to the right and back as we see in Altgens...

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Do we believe Roy was "mistaken"... and isn't that Roy in the hat?

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If that IS Roy in the hat... we can see him in the Bell gif as well

watching the limo go by...

The limo does not do what he says it did as we watch Bell...

how da do dat?
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in the strangest of places if you look at it right.....
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David Josephs Wrote:I was referring to a section specifically for JFK related photos and gifs and their analysis....
as long as it's cool to continue posting images and gifs here in the main JFK section I will continue...

and thanks btw - JFK's movements are also easier to discern in that gif....
We always pleased to listen to suggestions from members to make the forum work better for them. If members would like a specific JFK A/V related board we can do that. Or specific films added to the You Tube Channel etc. Just let us know.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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David Josephs Wrote:If that IS Roy in the hat... we can see him in the Bell gif as well

watching the limo go by...

The limo does not do what he says it did as we watch Bell...

how da do dat?
Nah, Doorway Man isn't it? :bolt:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Spy

or the man in the shadows....


I'm pretty sure the guy all in white and the cowboy hat is Truly...
and he is just to the east of the curb the limo would have had to swerve to miss

Was he really the only person on that corner to make that comment?

on the comment about a JFK AV section... I understood the purpose here was to discuss the DEEPER implication.. the Sponsor/Facilitator/Mechanic model..
Analysis of the films and photos does not usually provide insight into the Drago/Evica model other than possibly helping to idenitify the Facilitators and Mechanics and/or the threads of the plan inacted.

I want to remain very aware of this model and it acting as a corral keeping "deep thought" in and ancillary JFK minutia out.

Since the human being is fallible... I assume that clues remain - like the FBI model and its origins - which continue to illuminate what actually happened...

The BELL gif is very revealing... any info on that film and the taking of it, processing of it... would be appreciated...

DJ
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