The Splintering Frame

[Stan Wilbourne]

Phil, thanks for taking the time to check out those links.

Thanks for always making me think...and laugh some, too.

You always have my attention.

Don't ever stop bringing it.

The World Teacher on America's Got Talent. Critiqued by Jennifer Lopez or maybe Heidi Klum. Howard Stern is sure to get it.

All of us on dark ride through the gutters of Disney Land.

They were hiding behind hay bales,
They were planting in the full moon
They had given all they had for something new
But the light of day was on them,
They could see the thrashers coming
And the water shone like diamonds in the dew.

And I was just getting up, hit the road before it's light
Trying to catch an hour on the sun
When I saw those thrashers rolling by,
Looking more than two lanes wide
I was feelin' like my day had just begun.

Where the eagle glides ascending
There's an ancient river bending
Down the timeless gorge of changes
Where sleeplessness awaits

I searched out my companions,
Who were lost in crystal canyons
When the aimless blade of science
Slashed the pearly gates.

It was then I knew I'd had enough,
Burned my credit card for fuel
Headed out to where the pavement turns to sand
With a one-way ticket to the land of truth
And my suitcase in my hand
How I lost my friends I still don't understand.

They had the best selection,
They were poisoned with protection
There was nothing that they needed,
Nothing left to find

They were lost in rock formations
Or became park bench mutations
On the sidewalks and in the stations
They were waiting, waiting.

So I got bored and left them there,
They were just deadweight to me
Better down the road without that load
Brings back the time when I was eight or nine
I was watchin' my mama's T.V.,
It was that great Grand Canyon rescue episode.

Where the vulture glides descending
On an asphalt highway bending
Thru libraries and museums, galaxies and stars
Down the windy halls of friendship
To the rose clipped by the bullwhip
The motel of lost companions
Waits with heated pool and bar.

But me I'm not stopping there,
Got my own row left to hoe
Just another line in the field of time
When the thrashers comes, I'll be stuck in the sun
Like the dinosaurs in shrines
But I'll know the time has come
To give what's mine.

[Charles Drago]

But, of course, all science and no religion is as bad as all religion and no science. Replacing one with the other, as we have done, is simply turning over the same card from back to front. It's still the same card. What is required, but not achieved, is a balance between the two.

This struggle to maintain said balance amounts to the guiding principle of my deep political research -- for starters.

When everything is boiled down to its essence, everything has an esoteric/occult core. We just don't usually recognise or know this because our eyes and ears largely remain sealed.

Or in the case of the JFK conspiracy, an "esoteric/occult" core is what ultimately we will discover to be the essence of the Sponsors.

[Stan Wilbourne]

Hello Charles, this thread finds us a great many miles from the masterfully minded Lyndon Johnson, doesn't it?

[David Guyatt]

When everything is boiled down to its essence, everything has an esoteric/occult core. We just don't usually recognise or know this because our eyes and ears largely remain sealed.

Or in the case of the JFK conspiracy, an "esoteric/occult" core is what ultimately we will discover to be the essence of the Sponsors.

Aye, I suspect that is true.

It's part of the story about the two great opposing forces in conflict.

PS, Am I right in saying that Lyndon Johnson, like most (or many anyway) US Presidents was a 33rd degree Freemason? Am I also right in thinking that Dallas is on, or close by the 33rd parallel? I'm not sure this means anything of real significance, but just wondered if this is one thread of the occult essence of the JFK killing?

[David Guyatt]

I think the hope for, or expectation of, a World Teacher is a potentially dangerous philosophy to hold.

For the simple reason that it absolves us, each individual, from the need to do anything, as the WT will do it all in good time.

And if the supposed promise doesn't arrive, isn't true, what then?

We all need to take responsibility for our actions and our protracted and enduring unconsciousness, not wait for a Messiah to do it for us.

To lead, not be led.

Brian ain't going to come and save us. Simples.

Again, no disrespect is intended in saying the foregoing.

[Magda Hassan]

I couldn't agree more David! We cannot be spectators in our own lives while others run it for us. We've had enough 'Stong Men' through history to know that is not the answer. Even if one Strong Man is good and protective and provides well those that inevitably follow are mediocre at best or tyrants and 'small men' at worst. We have to move from looking for a great father figure to arrive and do things for us to growing up ourselves and shaping our own lives and being responsible for it.

Been loving this thread! Thanks for starting it Stan.

[Stan Wilbourne]

Hello David & Magda,

The World Teacher has come and gone and barely made a ripple upon the current of "this." The paradox of Krishnamurti's being, his message to the world: You are responsible for "this." Change it now. Awaken and change. Not ideologically. Not theoretically. Not tomorrow. What anyone else was/is or wasn't/isn't, doesn't matter. What matters is you. Here. Now.

Part of why Krishnamurti parted ways with the Theosophical Society and dissolved The Order of the Star, was that they all felt he was to do the work for them. When he pointed to their responsibility, there was disappointment, and the whole project that Blavatsky had foretold was branded a failure. The story of Madame Blavatsky, Theosophy and the World Teacher is superficial they way it's told and understood. Much like the Kennedy assassination itself.

I've made more than my share of posts here lately. I know that if I said these things elsewhere, I'd be torn to pieces. But, this is a place where friends come to share and explore, no?

I'm interested in discovering how I feel about all this. It's as if I put it into words, perhaps I will understand it better. But, in just about every post I have made, I've underlined my feeling of the personal responsibility we all have for the creation of a new world, for the awakening of total mind/being. There is no one else to do the work for you. That is a very old game. And, if we are responsible for this, doesn't that insight give us the vitality to change?

These questions are MY inner life. But, I'm also attempting to connect the outer events that I have witnessed in my life time as well. The mind of man is connected to the infinite, to the extraordinary. But, why doesn't that meaning translate into our daily lives? Why are our lives so utterly meaningless the way we currently live them?

I have been hesitant to bring up the whole "World Teacher" thing, with the mambo-jumbo of Madame Blavatsky and how it MAY connect to the murder of President Kennedy. I have no idea whether these events have a connection. But, I have begun to consider they may.

When light moves across the land, does darkness react? When compassion manifests, does it cause a reaction? Those questions, to my perception, are important in understanding some of the key events that happened in the last century.

[Charles Drago]

When everything is boiled down to its essence, everything has an esoteric/occult core. We just don't usually recognise or know this because our eyes and ears largely remain sealed.

Or in the case of the JFK conspiracy, an "esoteric/occult" core is what ultimately we will discover to be the essence of the Sponsors.

Aye, I suspect that is true.

It's part of the story about the two great opposing forces in conflict.

PS, Am I right in saying that Lyndon Johnson, like most (or many anyway) US Presidents was a 33rd degree Freemason? Am I also right in thinking that Dallas is on, or close by the 33rd parallel? I'm not sure this means anything of real significance, but just wondered if this is one thread of the occult essence of the JFK killing?

Somewhere in my library is a very slim volume published, I believe, in the 70's which goes into significant detail regarding the Masonic significance of Dealey Plaza's location and design. I'll do my best to find it and file a report.

As for LBJ: Reports are mixed regarding his involvement with Freemasons. The most consistent account I've read: LBJ was initiated on October 30, 1937 in Johnson City Lodge No. 561, at Johnson City, Texas, but completed only the Entered Apprentice, or first, of the three Masonic degrees.

[Charles Drago]

Hello Charles, this thread finds us a great many miles from the masterfully minded Lyndon Johnson, doesn't it?

Light years.

[David Guyatt]

Hello David & Magda,

The World Teacher has come and gone and barely made a ripple upon the current of "this." The paradox of Krishnamurti's being, his message to the world: You are responsible for "this." Change it now. Awaken and change. Not ideologically. Not theoretically. Not tomorrow. What anyone else was/is or wasn't/isn't, doesn't matter. What matters is you. Here. Now.

Part of why Krishnamurti parted ways with the Theosophical Society and dissolved The Order of the Star, was that they all felt he was to do the work for them. When he pointed to their responsibility, there was disappointment, and the whole project that Blavatsky had foretold was branded a failure. The story of Madame Blavatsky, Theosophy and the World Teacher is superficial they way it's told and understood. Much like the Kennedy assassination itself.

I've made more than my share of posts here lately. I know that if I said these things elsewhere, I'd be torn to pieces. But, this is a place where friends come to share and explore, no?

I'm interested in discovering how I feel about all this. It's as if I put it into words, perhaps I will understand it better. But, in just about every post I have made, I've underlined my feeling of the personal responsibility we all have for the creation of a new world, for the awakening of total mind/being. There is no one else to do the work for you. That is a very old game. And, if we are responsible for this, doesn't that insight give us the vitality to change?

These questions are MY inner life. But, I'm also attempting to connect the outer events that I have witnessed in my life time as well. The mind of man is connected to the infinite, to the extraordinary. But, why doesn't that meaning translate into our daily lives? Why are our lives so utterly meaningless the way we currently live them?

I have been hesitant to bring up the whole "World Teacher" thing, with the mambo-jumbo of Madame Blavatsky and how it MAY connect to the murder of President Kennedy. I have no idea whether these events have a connection. But, I have begun to consider they may.

When light moves across the land, does darkness react? When compassion manifests, does it cause a reaction? Those questions, to my perception, are important in understanding some of the key events that happened in the last century.

Hi Stan,

Thank you for your thoughtful response.

I'd love to believe that the World Teacher has come and gone, but I'm sad to say that I don't buy into that philosophy. I absolutely do believe you accept this as your fact and immensely respect your honesty and position about it - and would like to believe it, but my inner experiences are quite different.

My problem is that I don't see a lightening of the Collective Shadow, but rather I observe that it is getting denser and darker. And because of this, I regularly post - and bore readers rigid I suspect - and the vital importance of each of us taking the step towards tackling their own personal Shadow.

And the road that leads to this must, of course, begin by the descent into your own personal hell.

On the subject of the subject matter, so to speak, I applaud you for tackling this openly as you have done. I do, I promise, fully understand your hesitation in raising it. Thank you for doing so. It takes courage.

David