Snowden on Board? Bolivian President's Plane Forced to Land in Austria

[Kenneth Kapel]

Webster Tarpley on his site Tarpley.net has some very contrary views in regard to Edward Snowden & Glenn Greenwald. He feels that it is a limited CIA hangout operation. In the past I have found Tarpley, a former associate of Lyndon LaRauche, to be very clear headed and accurate in his thinking. My mind is undecided on this case however.

[Keith Millea]

Webster Tarpley on his site Tarpley.net has some very contrary views in regard to Edward Snowden & Glenn Greenwald. He feels that it is a limited CIA hangout operation. In the past I have found Tarpley, a former associate of Lyndon LaRauche, to be very clear headed and accurate in his thinking. My mind is undecided on this case however.

Tarpley groups Julian Assange and Wikileaks in the same category.

[Peter Lemkin]

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[Carsten Wiethoff]

The Austrian "Die Presse" (diepresse.com) reports:

Sie landete gegen 23 Uhr. Kurz danach ging im Wiener Außenamt ein dringlicher Anruf ein. Am anderen Ende der Leitung: US-Botschafter William Eacho. Wie "Die Presse" erfuhr, behauptete er mit großer Bestimmtheit, dass Edward Snowden an Bord sei, der von den USA gesuchte Aufdecker jüngster Abhörskandale. Eacho habe auf eine diplomatische Note verwiesen, in der die USA die Auslieferung Snowdens verlangten.

Translation:
It [the plane] landed at around 23:00. Shortly after that an urgent telephone call arrived at the Vienna Foreign Office. At the other end of the line: US embassador William Eacho. As "Die Presse" learned, he claimed with great insistence that Edward Snowden was on board, the Whistleblower of the recent wiretapping scandals, who is wanted by the USA. Eacho referred to a diplomatic note, in which the US demand Snowden's extradition.


As if there would be any question, who was behind that all.

[David Guyatt]

The Austrian "Die Presse" (diepresse.com) reports:

Sie landete gegen 23 Uhr. Kurz danach ging im Wiener Außenamt ein dringlicher Anruf ein. Am anderen Ende der Leitung: US-Botschafter William Eacho. Wie "Die Presse" erfuhr, behauptete er mit großer Bestimmtheit, dass Edward Snowden an Bord sei, der von den USA gesuchte Aufdecker jüngster Abhörskandale. Eacho habe auf eine diplomatische Note verwiesen, in der die USA die Auslieferung Snowdens verlangten.

Translation:
It [the plane] landed at around 23:00. Shortly after that an urgent telephone call arrived at the Vienna Foreign Office. At the other end of the line: US embassador William Eacho. As "Die Presse" learned, he claimed with great insistence that Edward Snowden was on board, the Whistleblower of the recent wiretapping scandals, who is wanted by the USA. Eacho referred to a diplomatic note, in which the US demand Snowden's extradition.


As if there would be any question, who was behind that all.

Thanks for that Carsten, nice to know that the NSA got that one completely wrong. Ambassador Eacho has got quite a lot of diplomatic egg on his face and he's going to be fuming at whoever told him this load of old BS.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Pilger's take.


Snowden's revelations are not merely about privacy, or civil liberty, or even mass spying. They are about the unmentionable: that the democratic facades of the US now barely conceal a systematic gangsterism historically identified with, if not necessarily the same as, fascism. On Tuesday, a US drone killed 16 people in North Waziristan, "where many of the world's most dangerous militants live", said the few paragraphs I read. That by far the world's most dangerous militants had hurled the drones was not a consideration. President Obama personally sends them every Tuesday.

Forcing down Evo Morales's plane was an act of air piracy

Denying the Bolivian president air space was a metaphor for the gangsterism that now rules the world


John Pilger
The Guardian, Thursday 4 July 2013 19.00 BST
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Bolivian President Evo Morales arrives at El Alto airport in La Paz


Imagine the aircraft of the president of France being forced down in Latin America on "suspicion" that it was carrying a political refugee to safety and not just any refugee but someone who has provided the people of the world with proof of criminal activity on an epic scale.

Imagine the response from Paris, let alone the "international community", as the governments of the west call themselves. To a chorus of baying indignation from Whitehall to Washington, Brussels to Madrid, heroic special forces would be dispatched to rescue their leader and, as sport, smash up the source of such flagrant international gangsterism. Editorials would cheer them on, perhaps reminding readers that this kind of piracy was exhibited by the German Reich in the 1930s.

The forcing down of Bolivian President Evo Morales's plane denied airspace by France, Spain and Portugal, followed by his 14-hour confinement while Austrian officials demanded to "inspect" his aircraft for the "fugitive" Edward Snowden was an act of air piracy and state terrorism. It was a metaphor for the gangsterism that now rules the world and the cowardice and hypocrisy of bystanders who dare not speak its name.

In Moscow, Morales had been asked about Snowden who remains trapped in the city's airport. "If there were a request [for political asylum]," he said, "of course, we would be willing to debate and consider the idea." That was clearly enough provocation for the Godfather. "We have been in touch with a range of countries that had a chance of having Snowden land or travel through their country," said a US state department official.

The French having squealed about Washington spying on their every move, as revealed by Snowden were first off the mark, followed by the Portuguese. The Spanish then did their bit by enforcing a flight ban of their airspace, giving the Godfather's Viennese hirelings enough time to find out if Snowden was indeed invoking article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which states: "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution."

Those paid to keep the record straight have played their part with a cat-and-mouse media game that reinforces the Godfather's lie that this heroic young man is running from a system of justice, rather than preordained, vindictive incarceration that amounts to torture ask Bradley Manning and the living ghosts in Guantánamo.

Historians seem to agree that the rise of fascism in Europe might have been averted had the liberal or left political class understood the true nature of its enemy. The parallels today are very different, but the Damocles sword over Snowden, like the casual abduction of Bolivia's president, ought to stir us into recognising the true nature of the enemy.

Snowden's revelations are not merely about privacy, or civil liberty, or even mass spying. They are about the unmentionable: that the democratic facades of the US now barely conceal a systematic gangsterism historically identified with, if not necessarily the same as, fascism. On Tuesday, a US drone killed 16 people in North Waziristan, "where many of the world's most dangerous militants live", said the few paragraphs I read. That by far the world's most dangerous militants had hurled the drones was not a consideration. President Obama personally sends them every Tuesday.

In his acceptance of the 2005 Nobel prize in literature, Harold Pinter referred to "a vast tapestry of lies, upon which we feed". He asked why "the systematic brutality, the widespread atrocities" of the Soviet Union were well known in the west while America's crimes were "superficially recorded, let alone documented, let alone acknowledged". The most enduring silence of the modern era covered the extinction and dispossession of countless human beings by a rampant US and its agents. "But you wouldn't know it," said Pinter. "It never happened. Even while it was happening it never happened."

This hidden history not really hidden, of course, but excluded from the consciousness of societies drilled in American myths and priorities has never been more vulnerable to exposure. Snowden's whistleblowing, like that of Manning and Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, threatens to break the silence Pinter described. In revealing a vast Orwellian police state apparatus servicing history's greatest war-making machine, they illuminate the true extremism of the 21st century. Unprecedented, Germany's Der Spiegel has described the Obama administration as "soft totalitarianism". If the penny is falling, we might all look closer to home.

[Magda Hassan]

Well said John!

[Peter Lemkin]

Indeed! Pilger calls it what it is...fascism....if the 'friendly/cryptic' variety [see book by Gross entitled 'Friendly Fascism' to understand how Amerika has fooled so many as to what the system really is!]

And had Snowden been on board, it would still have been illegal for the US to pressure anyone to 'mess' with the plane! It was the official plane of the President of sovereign nation and would by international law have had diplomatic privileges - the entire craft, in effect, a diplomatic pouch. Not that international law has ever made the USA even hesitate from doing things illegal and immoral. Empire is Empire!

[Jeffrey Orling]

Law, international law are only encumberances to power..Power trumps all. Power makes up the rules and decides when and whether and who follows them. It's indeed pathetic to see the naked power the US has over too many sovereign nations which claim to be democratic and respect the rule of law. If there was any doubt that this a fiction... that's been dispelled by this event.

[David Guyatt]

Law, international law are only encumberances to power..Power trumps all. Power makes up the rules and decides when and whether and who follows them. It's indeed pathetic to see the naked power the US has over too many sovereign nations which claim to be democratic and respect the rule of law. If there was any doubt that this a fiction... that's been dispelled by this event.

Of course, every nation breaks international law at times, and far more so domestic law too.

But this event takes the turnip.