Snowden on Board? Bolivian President's Plane Forced to Land in Austria

[Charles Drago]

My previously expressed concerns about Snowden's bona fides are being echoed.



http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/...d-snowden/

[Magda Hassan]

An Air Exclusion Zone was applied to the aircraft of Evo Morales

Edwin Antonio Ramirez
Agency Matrix South



The presidential plane air blockade of a sovereign country as the Plurinational State of Bolivia, can be described as an Air Exclusion Zone facto to a country outside the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR).

Such zones are measured by the Security Council of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) countries that are going to be overrun as happened in the case of Bosnia, Iraq and Libya. There have also been requests to the UN that this would impose an exclusion zone in territories such as Gaza. Bolivian presidency The aircraft was prevented from transiting the airspace of France, Spain, Italy and Portugual, because it was thought that was carrying the U.S. intelligence exagente Edward Snowden, wanted for his country for leaking confidential information. The basic provisions of these areas of exclusion is in the Convention on International Civil Aviation of 1944, which defines the fundamental characteristics that all States contractors have to apply to prohibited areas to institute. While it is in the various domestic legal systems that specify and delimit that portion of airspace air traffic is banned (civil, military or both). In April 2010, a volcanic ash cloud forced the temporary closure of the airspace of countries such as the United Kingdom, Denmark, Belgium and Norway. way, as stipulated in Article 9. (a) of that international treaty, each state Contracting may restrict or prohibit uniformly the aircraft flight other States over certain areas of its territory for reasons of military necessity (pilot training, for example) or public safety, although it is also common to be established to preserve the environment or historical heritage. Also prohibited areas should have a reasonable extent and location so as not to interfere unnecessarily with air navigation and also need to be kept informed of other Contracting States and the International Civil Aviation Organization of the forbidden zones in force and of the changes therein are operated. 's also possible that a state under exceptional circumstances (periods of emergency or in the interest of public safety), temporarily restricted or prohibited with immediate effect all flights over its territory or part thereof. However, this restriction or prohibition be applied without distinction of nationality to aircraft of all States. This is what is referred to as' general prohibition of flights. " Finally, Article 9. © it is determined that a Contracting State can claim, according to its own law, that all aircraft entering an exclusion zone air, regardless of the nature of this landing as soon as possible at some designated airport within its territory. Yet all these causes do not apply, since it declared an exclusion zone without legal justification and without such action find referred to in the Convention on International Civil Aviation. It was not illegal or dangerous flights for States that prevented air traffic, but an illegal request expresses the Obama administration in their hunt against Edward Snowden, as well as a message to American leaders who dared to provide humanitarian asylum trabajaor American citizen of the NSA. Obam and intelligence services have breakfast for some of Snowden's presence in some of these countries sovereign empire and ridicule of the world will spread networks and media.Spies States States have not been able to prevent one of its former employees living freely in the land of peace, justice and freedom. Antonio Edwin Ramirez. Law Specialist

[Carsten Wiethoff]

From http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul...NTCMP=SRCH

[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/spain"]
Spain[/URL] says it and other European countries were told that the NSAwhistleblower Edward Snowden was on board the Bolivian presidential plane that was diverted to Austria this week, causing a diplomatic row.
The foreign minister, José Manuel García-Margallo, said on Spanish National Television on Friday that "they told us that the information was clear, that he was inside".
The minister did not say who supplied the information and declined to say whether he had been in contact with the United States. But he said European countries' reactions were based on this information.

They do not even dare to name the beast. Spineless cowards.

[Peter Lemkin]

From http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul...NTCMP=SRCH

[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/spain"]
Spain[/URL] says it and other European countries were told that the NSAwhistleblower Edward Snowden was on board the Bolivian presidential plane that was diverted to Austria this week, causing a diplomatic row.

The foreign minister, José Manuel García-Margallo, said on Spanish National Television on Friday that "they told us that the information was clear, that he was inside".
The minister did not say who supplied the information and declined to say whether he had been in contact with the United States. But he said European countries' reactions were based on this information.

They do not even dare to name the beast. Spineless cowards.

I agree on your statement 'spineless cowards', but hasten to add, that even IF Snowden HAD been on the plane, international law clearly gives such a flight total diplomatic immunity from being diverted, seized or searched. Imagine forcing AF-1 with the US President down because some criminal or terrorist was suspected to be inside [as is more often the case than not]! All is power now...there is no longer law...just brute power. All the last century or two of international diplomatic and humanitarian agreements are just thrown out the window. We are now in a new era - and one I greatly fear.

[Magda Hassan]

From http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul...NTCMP=SRCH

[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/spain"]
Spain[/URL] says it and other European countries were told that the NSAwhistleblower Edward Snowden was on board the Bolivian presidential plane that was diverted to Austria this week, causing a diplomatic row.

The foreign minister, José Manuel García-Margallo, said on Spanish National Television on Friday that "they told us that the information was clear, that he was inside".
The minister did not say who supplied the information and declined to say whether he had been in contact with the United States. But he said European countries' reactions were based on this information.

They do not even dare to name the beast. Spineless cowards.

I agree on your statement 'spineless cowards', but hasten to add, that even IF Snowden HAD been on the plane, international law clearly gives such a flight total diplomatic immunity from being diverted, seized or searched. Imagine forcing AF-1 with the US President down because some criminal or terrorist was suspected to be inside [as is more often the case than not]! All is power now...there is no longer law...just brute power. All the last century or two of international diplomatic and humanitarian agreements are just thrown out the window. We are now in a new era - and one I greatly fear.

Yes, Snowden could have been inside the plane and waving at them all with his null and voided US passport in his other hand and he still would have been 'untouchable' under International Law and the Vienna Convention. The presidential plane is Bolivian soveriegn territory. Except the US think they own the world.

[Tracy Riddle]

http://lookingglass.blog.co.uk/2013/07/0...-16217260/

It's probably been true for a hundred years, but in Europe and Africa it may never have been more true than now, that other nations fear America and their leaders jump when an American President tells them to.

Couple of years ago, a journalist in a Yemeni jail for writing commentary considered insulting to the undemocratic regime which runs the country, was about to be released when their President got a phone call from Barack Obama instructing him to keep the man in prison. He's still there. Apparently, the U.S. leader likes to keep his hands in.

There is little doubt that the aircraft carrying Bolivian head of state, Evo Morales, was denied airspace over France, Italy, Spain, and Portugal, endangering the lives of everyone on board, because Obama insisted on it. No other construction makes any sense. No other nation has a motive. No other nation is run by such an arrogant, vengeful executive, certainly not one with this kind of power.

[Magda Hassan]

I think this is the same guy that I used to listen to during the Libyan no fly slaughter. He is legit. But there are many strange things going on. France and Portugal and Italy have cleared his plane. Spain has said, and I kid you not, that they have to check with their 'friend' (the US) to see if it is okay....talk about a little lickspittle vassal state. The Spanish ambassador in Austria also wanted to "drink some coffee on board the plane with Morales to make sure there was no Snowden on board". The Austrians have said they don't fear Snowden and allowed the plane to land. As President Cristina Kirchner said "Mother of God the world has gone mad" as she conversed with Evo and he legal advisors.

Tha Spanish Ambassador to Austria was none other than the extreme right winger Alberto Carnero and Bush lackey who attended the meeting with Bush and others in Crawford where Saddam's fate was sealed.

The Bush-Aznar memo is a reportedly a documentation of a February 22, 2003 conversation in Crawford, Texas between George W. Bush, then-Prime Minister of Spain José Aznar, then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Daniel Fried, Alberto Carnero, and Javier Rupérez, the Spanish ambassador to the U.S. British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Italian President Berlusconi participated by telephone. Rupérez transcribed the meeting's details which El País, a Madrid daily newspaper, published on September 26, 2007. The conversation focuses on the efforts of the US, UK, and Spain to get a second resolution passed by the United Nations Security Council. This "second resolution" would have followed Resolution 1441. Supporters of the resolution also referred to it as the "eighteenth resolution" in reference to the 17 UN resolutions that Iraq had failed to comply with.
The memo provided insight into the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The memo revealed that Saddam Hussein had offered to step-down and leave Iraq if he were allowed to keep $1 billion. Some have suggested that this indicates that the war was avoidable. According to the account in El País, the memo also gives details on how Bush tried to coerce members of the United Nations Security Council into supporting US policy: He tells Aznar how he can cut Angola's foreign aid from the Millennium Challenge Account and how he can torpedo the free trade agreement with Chile (awaiting ratification in the United States Senate at the time) if the two countries did not back US policy. Another portion of the transcript shows Bush's confidence Iraq's stability after the invasion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush-Aznar_memo
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Llego/momento/deshacerse/Sadam/elpepunac/20070926elpepinac_1/Tes

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives...am/?page=1