Why didn't the hippies get into the jfk assassination ?

[Danny Jarman]

"Then, ya know, who cares about the war?!"

[Cliff Varnell]

I didn't bother to see what movie it was I didn't care I needed the sanctuary of darkness...it turned out to be Kenneth Anger's "Magic Lantern Cycle".

OMG..:rofl:

It was fucking...AWESOME...It had the version of "Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome" with the ELO soundtrack...Yeah, I know I'm going into an area that's...controversial...in some precincts of the DPF...

[Cliff Varnell]

Yeah, I know I'm going into an area that's...controversial...in some precincts of the DPF...

Question:

Was Anton LaVey's Satanic Church a manifestation of San Francisco's free-thinking social environment which spawned North Beach Beats in the 50's, Haight St. hippies in the 60's, and Mission district punk rocks '76-'86?

OR

Sinister elite psy-op?

As subjects of "deep" analysis I find both LaVey and Charles Manson amusingly over-rated.

[Danny Jarman]

Hi Cliff, have you read the Sinister Forces trilogy?

[Magda Hassan]

As subjects of "deep" analysis I find both LaVey and Charles Manson amusingly over-rated.

Over rated in what way Cliff?

[Cliff Varnell]

As subjects of "deep" analysis I find both LaVey and Charles Manson amusingly over-rated.

Over rated in what way Cliff?

I can't name one thing Charles Manson was good at other than an ability to talk the pants off of troubled young women. We're supposed to believe he was some kind of evil mastermind? (If you buy that one I have an orange bridge in town for sale...)

He was an inept car thief, one truly stupid drug dealer, and a mediocre musician and song-writer.

He wasn't much for actually killing a person, since he wasn't present for any of the Tate-LaBianca murders.

I think the whole thing was Susan Atkins' idea once she had the thrill of tagging Political Piggy with Gary Hinman's blood.

Bugliosi promoted all of that "Helter Skelter" bullshit right out of Atkins' LA Times article published 5 days after she was charged with murder. Coming on the heels of Altamont it was a target of opportunity for the mainstream media to proclaim the "End of the 60's."

As far as Anton LaVey goes, I must in full disclosure say that I am a passing acquaintance of his eldest daughter Karla LaVey. She's a friend of an old friend of mine, and what I know about Satanism I got from talking about it with my old friend.

I've never discussed Satanism with Karla LaVey, but from what I've heard of her family I just don't see the Unspeakable.

[Cliff Varnell]

Hi Cliff, have you read the Sinister Forces trilogy?

Not yet. Convince me it isn't based on hickish notions of rock n roll as the devil's music, or am I under a mis-impression?.

[Magda Hassan]

Hi Cliff, have you read the Sinister Forces trilogy?

Not yet. Convince me it isn't based on hickish notions of rock n roll as the devil's music, or am I under a mis-impression?.

You are under a mis-impression.

[Cliff Varnell]

Hi Cliff, have you read the Sinister Forces trilogy?

Not yet. Convince me it isn't based on hickish notions of rock n roll as the devil's music, or am I under a mis-impression?.

You are under a mis-impression.

Good.

btw...What was Anton LaVey's idea of the perfect satanic song?

"How Much for the Doggie in the Window"

Me, I have a faith in a higher power which precludes me from being a Satanist. I follow a spiritual practice of my own making, which has no text and no name and no followers other than myself.

Anyone who thinks "satanism" is about devil worship has fallen prey to hicks, I fear.

[Cliff Varnell]

I've never discussed Satanism with Karla LaVey, but from what I've heard of her family I just don't see the Unspeakable.

I don't see it in any of this either...

11 Rules of Satanism by Anton LaVey:

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.