JFK killed by NWO?

[Chris Macleod]

who cares, thats totally irrelevant. the NWO is very real, happening right now, gets closer every day, and not even a secret, all your politiicans speak about it quite openly all the time, have done for decades. I am of the opinion these are the people that killed JFK and RFK. Who do you think he was speaking about with his secret society's speech? the NWO!!!! thats why they killed him!!! that's who he meant those are the people he was talking about.

[Albert Doyle]

At the time it was more defined by corporate oligarchical interests and their communist adversaries. The dark swirl in the sky you call NWO manifested itself in the form of academic, political, governmental, business, military, media, social elite etc. who all colluded directly or indirectly with the facilitators who arranged the actual mechanics who did the shooting. The pathetic thing about this is the role of most participants was simply carrying on the status quo as they were expected to do while praising the dead president. If you started talking Rockefeller you might get some agreement.

[Chris Macleod]

I already mentioned rockefeller and rothschild. I think JFK probably betrayed the elite call them NWO or whatever you want I think he and all president's have an understanding there are certain things that are off-limits and he reneged on it so they had him killed. there is no doubt they have the power to do that.

[Tracy Riddle]

Chris, the world isn't run by one group of people. There are numerous groups who sometimes compete, sometimes cooperate, sometimes kill each other. The US alone has several factions among the Elite, though these groups are increasingly multi-national in their operations.

Terms like "New World Order" and "Illuminati" are a kind of shorthand for people who don't want to do deal with the messy complexities of how the world actually works.

[Jim DiEugenio]

Kennedy was killed by the old world order.

They were very upset because he was upsetting the old balance of power, and the imperialistic system set up as far back as the Dulles brothers at the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

I disagree with the Jerome Corsi-Newsmax crowd on this, although his book was not at all as bad as I thought it was going to be. He is a lot closer to the truth than Summers or Albarelli.

Except he fails to see how Kennedy was attempting to breakout of that system not just in Vietnam, but all over the globe. And how after him, that system was reasserted by the hydra of LBJ/CFR interests/CIA. The association between Johnson and the Rockefellers is very much underplayed and unknown.

In fact, in my Pittsburgh talk, which i will repeat in Dallas, I did NOT EVEN MENTION CUBA! And I only mentioned Vietnam tangentially. I concentrated on everywhere else Kennedy was upsetting the applecart, including Iran--something which no one talks about. In all these areas, JFK was upsetting the system the Dulles brothers had installed back at Versailles.

Allen Dulles was first fired by JFK and then was watching as he now began to overturn this imperial system he had helped install as CIA Director.

[Chris Macleod]

Chris, the world isn't run by one group of people. There are numerous groups who sometimes compete, sometimes cooperate, sometimes kill each other. The US alone has several factions among the Elite, though these groups are increasingly multi-national in their operations.

Terms like "New World Order" and "Illuminati" are a kind of shorthand for people who don't want to do deal with the messy complexities of how the world actually works.

in your opinion you mean. with zero evidence supplied. Terms like new world order and illuminati refer to real groups of people who actually exist, of that there is no doubt, the only doubt is the extent of their influence and what their ultimate intentions are. Their existence is a matter of historical record. I don't think you know a great deal about how the world actually works, and to suggest those two groups existence and activities are in any way simple is ridiculous.

[Chris Macleod]

Kennedy was killed by the old world order.

They were very upset because he was upsetting the old balance of power, and the imperialistic system set up as far back as the Dulles brothers at the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

I disagree with the Jerome Corsi-Newsmax crowd on this, although his book was not at all as bad as I thought it was going to be. He is a lot closer to the truth than Summers or Albarelli.

Except he fails to see how Kennedy was attempting to breakout of that system not just in Vietnam, but all over the globe. And how after him, that system was reasserted by the hydra of LBJ/CFR interests/CIA. The association between Johnson and the Rockefellers is very much underplayed and unknown.

In fact, in my Pittsburgh talk, which i will repeat in Dallas, I did NOT EVEN MENTION CUBA! And I only mentioned Vietnam tangentially. I concentrated on everywhere else Kennedy was upsetting the applecart, including Iran--something which no one talks about. In all these areas, JFK was upsetting the system the Dulles brothers had installed back at Versailles.

Allen Dulles was first fired by JFK and then was watching as he now began to overturn this imperial system he had helped install as CIA Director.

good post, things like ending the Fed, seeking detente with the Soviet Union, peace in Vietnam and empowering all the little people all over the world at home and abroad as well as exposing the NWO and challenging the power of the CIA/military-industrial complex are what got him killed. as you say he was upsetting the apple cart.

[Peter Lemkin]

...more than around the block 'a few times'..... No one group of any name pulled off the JFK Assassination, IMO, after decades of research and reading. It was a coalition of mutual interests and benefits. Such simplistic terms as 'NWO' to explain such a complex event is, just that, simplistic. It is either done out of naivete, or [not saying in this case] similar are often done to discredit a Forum. Beware the 22nd of November is upon us and all sorts of interesting things are coming fore.....

The terms such as 'NWO' are so nebulous, no one has / no one can have any idea[s] as to who [persons or entities] is/are/were involved. Mostly, such nebulous terms are used and spread as disinformation to make real researchers look silly, IMO.

Please, newbees, this is a small and an advanced forum. Newbees are welcome here. Sunstein agents are not. [if you don't know what is meant here, look on the internet or ask]. Take some time to look around at posts on the topic[s] you plan to post upon, and be as specific and instructional as possible - not just plunging in without seeing if there is any 'water' in your 'pool'.

[Chris Macleod]

I think there is no doubt it was a coalition of interests that were involved, but you are missing a logical point, in that scenario nobody takes the decision to actually do it. For it to happen at all somebody somewhere or some group of people had to actually give the order to do it. Who did that? Who has the authority to take such a decision? Bearing in mind the disparate groups involved and massive scale of the cover-up the people who gave the initial order must be 'above' all levels of government and all those involved, so who would that be? Who actually took the decision and set the ball rolling?

[Dawn Meredith]

Chris I know you are new here but this is not a kindergarten. There are other forums for that. Maybe more reading and learning before you start using unhelpful phrases like NWO. A better standard of intellectual rigour is expected here and cliches like NWO and illuminati etc won't cut it.

I'm sorry to disappoint you but NWO and illuminati are far from cliches and are infact very very real. since you patronise me I will do the same to you, cliche isn't even the right word there, but anyway they are very real, you might want to ask henry kissinger or john kerry who spoke about them very recently. you want a better standard of intellectual rigour you might want to open your eyes then as ignorance like that will not deliver what you seek.

Do you always piss on the host when first visiting a home?

Dawn