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US/NATO War on Russia
Anne-Marie Slaughter thinks so

Unbelievable.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Anne Marie looks like she is an idiot. However, they gave that idiot a job at the Statte Department. That's a worry.
From paragraph 2
Quote:Many argue that Obama's climb-down from his threatened missile strikes against Syria last August emboldened Russian President Vladimir Putin to annex Crimea. But it is more likely that Putin acted for domestic reasons to distract Russians' attention from their country's failing economy and to salve the humiliation of watching pro-European demonstrators oust the Ukrainian government he backed.
Has she seen the US economy lately? Or for the last 30 years or so? Do we not think this may not be a distraction from US domestic politics? Pro-European prosters? Really? Some sure but many were paid. And as we see most were fascists. Putin knows a colour revolution when he sees one.

I could go on...........
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I think both 'sides' are playing this wrong/cynically and for their own geostrategic interests [not for the interests of the affected people]. Russia is making an illogical claim that 'Russians' needing its protection will be militarily protected - with these 'Russians' defined as those who speak Russian as opposed to ethnic Russians [the second having some validity - the first NONE!]....it would be like the US/UK/OZ saying they'd militarily intervene to respond to the request of any English-speakers requesting help. During the Soviet period, most [not all] learned and used Russian as their primary language, no matter what their ethnicity or regional affiliation. Language doesn't define a national group, although a national group usually shares a language. This whole thing is messed up beyond belief. No 'good guys' on either side, IMHO. Both sides doing provocations and cruising for bruising - lets only hope it won't be a nuclear one! There are many bad side outcomes to this...just one [minor] one is if Russia cuts off cooperation on the International Space Station, the US will have no rockets to resupply the station. The range is endless - from currency wars to real hot wars - and everything in between. On the West, this seems driven by the military and neocons; Can't tell what groupings are driving this on the Russian side, but Putin has made it clear he thinks the dismemberment of the USSR was a mistake and would like to see it re-assembled in an economic block, if not a political confederation. NATO and the USA would like to 'finish' destroying the remnants of the USSR, then move on to China and a few others.....to perfect their 'empire'. Total madness all around. One can easily find one side committing more egregious acts at any place and time, but nowhere is sanity prevailing or growing. IMHO. :Blink:
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Yeah, the whole nationalistic thing sucks anywhere. But that is the language of the Ukrainian fascists. They are the ones who implemented the language restrictions on other Ukranians and that is why the Ukrainians who still wish to speak Russian or Moldavian or Polish or any other language look to Russia to protect their intersts. Russia did not start this. Lavrov is pushing for Ukranian federalisation where each region can decide for themselves. I see this as the only rational thing to go for. The US is a long way from home, not a disinterested player and part of the problem. They really should do the right thing and just fuck off completely and take NATO with them.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Yeah, the whole nationalistic thing sucks anywhere. But that is the language of the Ukrainian fascists. They are the ones who implemented the language restrictions on other Ukrainians and that is why the Ukrainians who still wish to speak Russian or Moldavian or Polish or any other language look to Russia to protect their interests. Russia did not start this. Lavrov is pushing for Ukrainian federalisation where each region can decide for themselves. I see this as the only rational thing to go for. The US is a long way from home, not a disinterested player and part of the problem. They really should do the right thing and just fuck off completely and take NATO with them.

Sadly, the US never thinks of itself as 'a long way from home'...as we are destined by a god to soon rule the Planet - and we have bases in about 80% of all countries - often many bases in some countries. Our 'backyard' goes right up to the 'backyards' of those we don't yet include in ours - and none in the US military nor elites think there is anything 'strange' about that.....The Monroe doctrine somehow expanded into the Reagan and then Bush 'doctrines'...expanding our 'backyard' to be Planet-wide and only exclude those not yet assimilated [Borg-style]. All large countries, most medium and even some [not all] small nations are run by the criminally insane class. Very sad our species is so inept now at treating others properly....or even treating their 'own' properly. Big anything is usually wrong and dangerous, and we best break into smaller and regional/interest/language/cultural groupings - with loose federation possible to larger entities - or soon perish. This is also needed on for environmental reasons, as well as political ones. Not likely anytime soon...or soon enough. I still think Ukraine could easily, even without plan, develop into something Big and Ugly...and could easily spread.....

I live near the Castle of Prague and just went out to walk my dog...only to find [to my surprise] the street closed and crawling with Ninja-Tactical Police. I couldn't even take the dog to the park, as I didn't have my official residence permit on me. The security seems so tight this year [this happens every year] because Ukraine is invited...as are all states that border the Western edge of Russia [plus the CZE and a few others not touching Russia]. Anyway, my street today and tomorrow is the safest or least safe in all of Prague today!:p


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"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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SITREP from the Saker

Quote:Wow! Now things look very serious indeed. RT reports that Russia is starting military maneuvers involving not one, but TWO military districts plus the Air Force:
Russia has begun extensive military exercises in Ukrainian border area following the escalation of violence in eastern Ukraine.

"The order to use force against civilians has already been given, and if this military machine is not stopped, the amount of casualties will only grow," Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said during an official meeting in Moscow.

"War games by NATO in Poland and the Baltic states are not helping the normalization of the situation. We are forced to react to the situation."

Shoigu said that the drills involve march and deployment exercises by forces in the southern and western military districts, and separate Air Force maneuvers.

Shoigu said that 11,000 Ukrainian soldiers, 160 tanks, 230 armored carriers and at least 150 artillery pieces are involved in the operation against anti-Kiev activists.

"National guard units and Right Sector extremists are fighting against the peaceful population, as well as a volunteer Donbass anti-terrorist' unit. Also security and internal forces transferred to Lugansk and Donetsk from other areas of the country are suppressing dissent," the minister said.

He added that Ukrainian sabotage units have been deployed near the Russian border.

In contrast, Shoigu said that the pro-Russian self-defense units number about 2,000 and have about 100 guns between them, which have mostly been taken from local police stations.
I did not expect such a dramatic and rapid escalation and if I was on the side of the forces currently attacking Slaviansk I would get really frightened. The size of the force Shoigu has just mobilized is huge, potentially enough to fight a major war on a full continental front. It also includes the best and most powerful and battle-hardened Russian units from the southern military district.

Now, this does not at all mean that the FULL forces of the military districts have been mobilized or are moving. But that the Russian high command can draw whatever units it deems necessary from these two districts (a misnomer, by the way, they are now called "strategic directions"). One thing is certain, not even during the Chechen wars or 08.08.08 did Russia assemble such a powerful military force. I am frankly astounded that they would make such a decision and announce it publicly even though the Ukrainian attack so far has been, frankly, minimal and lame.

Also, notice that unlike Putin, Shoigu is not talking about "consequences" for "individuals" but about stopping the Ukrainian military machine! He also presents this not a a choice for Russia, but as something Russia is forced to do. He clearly knows something we don't. Maybe a NATO move in western Ukraine? It seems totally crazy to me that NATO would do that, but how can I otherwise explain the huge size of the force Russia has just put on alert?! You don't need the resources of two of you most powerful strategic directions to deal with 5'000+ SBU/RS thugs? For that a single ODON division would be plenty.

I am getting very worried by this and I hope that this is a mistranslation or some kind of misunderstanding on RT's part (stuff happens). But if not, then this is very, very serious.

I will try my best to figure out what is going on.

Stay tuned (and say prayer for peace), and let's hope that things calm down.

The Saker

UPDATE @ 1522Z: 5 people reported killed in Slaviansk. Ukies have entered Slaviansk, there are combats inside the city. The cellular network has been disconnected.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Battlefield Eastern Europe: The Anglo-American Alliance VS. The Eurasian Project

Paul Plane interviews Joaquin Flores recorded March 30th 2014

Mr. Flores also discusses meta-politics, Putin's thinking, Eurasianism, and related areas: Alexander Dugin and Schmittian Geostrategy

Short discussion on US Disintegration and factors behind it an elite out of touch.

Also covered are the Situations of Turkey, Syria, and Iran, KSA, Egypt, Israel: past, present, future are also touched on. This includes brief discussion of Turkish situation with Ergenekon reversal of convictions and Dogu Perencek. Possibilities of Iran-Turkey collaboration along pro-Eurasianist lines.

[video=youtube_share;PzOvBZP_Y8M]http://youtu.be/PzOvBZP_Y8M[/video]
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

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Time is Running Out for the US Dollar

By Valentin Mândrăşescu

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...s.facebook

Quote:April 23, 2014 "ICH" - "VOR" - It is often speculated that some members of the US establishment are pushing Ukraine towards a military conflict with Russia. But why do it in such a hurry? A Russian economist claims that he know s the answer, alluding to the link between the latest international crisis and the fate of the US currency.

Russian diplomats have repeatedly criticized the US for not trying to restrain their Ukrainian underlings in order to make them respect the agreement reached during the recent Geneva meeting. US-sponsored Ukrainian junta is trying to provoke Russia to intervene in Ukraine in order to protect ethnic Russians and supporters of federalization. There can be only two results for such policy. Ukraine will either become the battleground for a long and bloody civil war or will become the target for a Russian military intervention. From the American point of view it is a win-win situation. If there is a civil war, the delivery of natural gas to Europe will be disrupted hurting both the European and the Russian economy. If Moscow decides that it has to intervene in Ukraine, Washington will ignore the ethic Russians killed by the US-sponsored junta and will claim that Russia is an aggressor. Such a strategy will give Washington a chance to force the EU to institute hard economic sanctions against Russia, but such sanctions will hurt the EU even more than Russia . According to Sergey Glazyev, economic advisor to President Putin, European Union stands to lose 1 trillion euro, if hard economic sanctions against Russia are enacted .

Mikhail Khazin, the president of Neokon economic advisory company, believes that the US is trying to preemptively hurt the regional currencies and their associated economies before the US dollar loses its status as the main global currency:

" The US doesn't have that much time in order to prepare for a serious weakening of the US dollar on the global stage and, conversely, for a serious strengthening of regional currencies' role. The maximum amount of time they can count on is 18 months. During this period they must prepare for a situation in which their main instrument of global control, i.e. the control of the circulation of the main global reserve and trade currency, will become seriously weakened," he wrote in a recent blogpost cited by the Russian media outlets.

During Obama's second term, the relations between the US and most global players including China, Russia, India and, to a certain extent, the EU have reached new low points. This situation is somewhat similar to the situation before WWII and WWI when America benefited from global conflicts that destroyed the economies of America's competitors. It is said that third time is charm, but the rest of the world would be better off if Washington can't pull the same trick for a third time in a row. The era in which Washington was the main beneficiary of global instability and regional conflicts must come to an end.

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Paul Rigby Wrote:Battlefield Eastern Europe: The Anglo-American Alliance VS. The Eurasian Project

Paul Plane interviews Joaquin Flores recorded March 30th 2014

Mr. Flores also discusses meta-politics, Putin's thinking, Eurasianism, and related areas: Alexander Dugin and Schmittian Geostrategy

Thanks Paul. V interesting listen for anyone with an hour to spare. Both the interviewer and Flores know their stuff and are refreshingly undogmatic.
Peter Presland

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I'm going to guess that major fighting will break out on May 1 [May Day] - a big holiday and a symbolic day for all sides. The number of deaths, kidnappings and incidents is increasing each day. Both sides are using the media to show their determination and damage they will wreck on the other. It is very troubling.....more so were I am, which is not far away. Several international observers were kidnapped, some grenades tossed, some persons killed today in the Ukraine. It is quickly going to spin out of control..... Sadly, at the moment, I don't think those leading either side see any advantage in a peaceful resolution of differences.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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