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10-05-2014, 04:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-05-2014, 06:26 PM by Scott Kaiser.)
From what I was able to dig up by talking to others and AJ Weberman who happened to be at the VVAW Convention at Miami Beach in 1972, including information discovered in the Howard S. Liebengood papers, is that Frank Sturgis was recruiting my father for the assassination of Nixon. According to some documents my father was suppose to deliver silencers for the weapons to be used. My father and Frank went around Miami handing out business cards while representing themselves as working for Hemming's gun company. When Hemming found this out he apparently got pissed, Hemming called Frank and told him, he and Kaiser needed to stop representing themselves as employees. My father also worked for Mitch Werbell.
Sense the two assassination attempts were unsuccessful, (because Ed Kaiser went to the FBI) and Nixon would not stop pressuring DCI Helms for all the documents on the BOP, the CIA than plotted the Watergate break-ins that forced Nixon to resign.
Nixon merely hired the plumbers to stop the leaks coming out of the White House, however, I don't believe Nixon knew that his plumbers would soon turn to burglars. (Remember, the leaks were not coming out of the Watergate hotel, but out of the White House and Kissinger was the prime suspect.)
It was the perfect set up, the doors were left unlocked, tape left on the outside of the door handle and Barker's address book was discovered in the hotel room where they were staying, it was Barkers address book that would ultimately connect Nixon. WH - HH.
The million dollar question is "why". Why did they want to assassinate Nixon, and why was there Watergate? There were no photo's at the Watergate building that I know of and Larry O'Brien's office was never searched or bugged. so why Watergate?
Well, Nixon who was VP to Eisenhower helped create Op 40, planned the BOP and was against Castro's communist party. BUT! When Nixon got into office everything the Cuban people worked so hard for to get rid of Castro came to a complete stop. Nixon shut down the only CIA activities going on in Cuba at that time. Eugenio Martinez was among the thirty remaining "Frogmen" stationed in Moa Bay Cuba when Nixon shut it all down. Thirty (30) remaining frogmen's covert ops came to a complete stop and were advised to shut down CIA operations in Cuba and return back to the states. Guess who's idea it was to have Nixon assassinated? When the two failed attempts occurred they had Nixon removed from office. Who is they you ask? Why The CIA.
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Somebody certainly had it in for Nixon, which when you consider his right-wing credentials, was peculiar at the time.
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Interesting, Scott; it sounds very plausible. Let me guess: if they had successfully killed Nixon, they would have set up some "pro-Castro" patsy to take the blame and make it look like Castro was responsible.
David, Nixon wasn't that right-wing at all. He was really irritating the right-wingers of his day (the Reagan-Bircher-Cold Warrior wing of the GOP) with his overtures to Red China and the USSR, cutting the military budget, withdrawing troops from Vietnam, nuclear arms treaty with Brezhnev, creating the EPA, OSHA, Clean Air Act, etc.
A shadowy coup from the Right to put Spiro Agnew in power is very believable. Agnew really was a right-winger, but of course he had to resign for other reasons.
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Yes, Nixon is a most interesting creature. Many of his policies were very good. No matter the motives which moved him. Clearly he was a moral vacuum and conniving and ruthlessly ambitious. But compared to today's Republicans he is full of love peace and Woodstock. Well, almost. He wasn't one of 'them' and I don't doubt tptb may have wanted him removed one way or another.
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If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd advance Nixon's name as one of those 'leaders' who really deserved something like that.....some self-incriminating evidence....
White House tape recordings, April 25, 1972:
President Nixon: How many did we kill in Laos?
National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger: In the Laotian thing, we killed about ten, fifteen [thousand] …
Nixon: See, the attack in the North [Vietnam] that we have in mind … power plants, whatever's left POL [petroleum], the docks … And, I still think we ought to take the dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no … I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you? … I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.
May 2, 1972:
Nixon: America is not defeated. We must not lose in Vietnam. … The surgical operation theory is all right, but I want that place bombed to smithereens. If we draw the sword, we're gonna bomb those bastards all over the place. Let it fly, let it fly.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd advance Nixon's name as one of those 'leaders' who really deserved something like that.....some self-incriminating evidence....
White House tape recordings, April 25, 1972:
President Nixon: How many did we kill in Laos?
National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger: In the Laotian thing, we killed about ten, fifteen [thousand] …
Nixon: See, the attack in the North [Vietnam] that we have in mind … power plants, whatever's left POL [petroleum], the docks … And, I still think we ought to take the dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no … I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you? … I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.
May 2, 1972:
Nixon: America is not defeated. We must not lose in Vietnam. … The surgical operation theory is all right, but I want that place bombed to smithereens. If we draw the sword, we're gonna bomb those bastards all over the place. Let it fly, let it fly.
Quote:"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business." Michael Ledeen, former Defense Department consultant and holder of the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute
Who pulled Nixon back from the brink? Henry the K, of all people?
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd advance Nixon's name as one of those 'leaders' who really deserved something like that.....some self-incriminating evidence....
White House tape recordings, April 25, 1972:
President Nixon: How many did we kill in Laos?
National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger: In the Laotian thing, we killed about ten, fifteen [thousand] …
Nixon: See, the attack in the North [Vietnam] that we have in mind … power plants, whatever's left POL [petroleum], the docks … And, I still think we ought to take the dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no … I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you? … I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.
May 2, 1972:
Nixon: America is not defeated. We must not lose in Vietnam. … The surgical operation theory is all right, but I want that place bombed to smithereens. If we draw the sword, we're gonna bomb those bastards all over the place. Let it fly, let it fly.
Quote:"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business." Michael Ledeen, former Defense Department consultant and holder of the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute
Who pulled Nixon back from the brink? Henry the K, of all people?
Kissinger had/has more than enough blood on his hands! - he just was not totally insane enough to go along with using Nuclear Bombs on a developing nation who had never attacked the US. Nixon was totally insane - but in that regard, he was hardly the only recent President to fall into that category....::face.palm::
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:Interesting, Scott; it sounds very plausible. Let me guess: if they had successfully killed Nixon, they would have set up some "pro-Castro" patsy to take the blame and make it look like Castro was responsible.
David, Nixon wasn't that right-wing at all. He was really irritating the right-wingers of his day (the Reagan-Bircher-Cold Warrior wing of the GOP) with his overtures to Red China and the USSR, cutting the military budget, withdrawing troops from Vietnam, nuclear arms treaty with Brezhnev, creating the EPA, OSHA, Clean Air Act, etc.
A shadowy coup from the Right to put Spiro Agnew in power is very believable. Agnew really was a right-winger, but of course he had to resign for other reasons.
Not to mention that Nixon also created the DEA, and that was a no, no in Miami.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd advance Nixon's name as one of those 'leaders' who really deserved something like that.....some self-incriminating evidence....
White House tape recordings, April 25, 1972:
President Nixon: How many did we kill in Laos?
National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger: In the Laotian thing, we killed about ten, fifteen [thousand] …
Nixon: See, the attack in the North [Vietnam] that we have in mind … power plants, whatever's left POL [petroleum], the docks … And, I still think we ought to take the dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no … I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you? … I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.
May 2, 1972:
Nixon: America is not defeated. We must not lose in Vietnam. … The surgical operation theory is all right, but I want that place bombed to smithereens. If we draw the sword, we're gonna bomb those bastards all over the place. Let it fly, let it fly.
Quote:"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business." Michael Ledeen, former Defense Department consultant and holder of the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute
Who pulled Nixon back from the brink? Henry the K, of all people?
Kissinger had/has more than enough blood on his hands! - he just was not totally insane enough to go along with using Nuclear Bombs on a developing nation who had never attacked the US. Nixon was totally insane - but in that regard, he was hardly the only recent President to fall into that category....::face.palm::
Kissinger was also targeted for a farewell party.
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Kissinger was smart enough to see that their whole foreign policy (China, USSR) would be blown apart by using nukes in Southeast Asia.
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