Operation forty pic

[Scott Kaiser]

And the truth shall set you FREE!

[Scott Kaiser]

By the way! I have my sources in Miami, and I will NOT give out their names on a public forum that may otherwise stir up a bees nest against them with other members of the anti-Castro groups or individuals, and if you think that for one moment everything has now come to pass and there are no more groups or infiltrations you better think again, the only thing that's not happening as much is all the damn killings that took place in the 70's and 80's, but, there are still a few that happen every now and than.

[Scott Kaiser]

Here is the best close up you could get without distorting the imagine, as you can clearly see the eyebrows are NOT think at the ends and you can clearly see the man Sturgis' arm is around is his Watergate buddy Gonzalez. The first photo of Sturgis with his arm around Gonzalez was taken in 1962 while the second photo of Sturgis was taken in 1968, so there is a six year difference.

[Peter Lemkin]

The hairline alone is NOT that of Sturgis - as discussed on another thread about this photo. It is however, a match for the hairline of Plumlee. It is not strange in my mind that Plumlee when the photo first came out denied it was he....as there are reasons for him to not want to be associated with a few in the photo - and was the only one who had partly covered his face during that dinner. Later, when most researchers had long thought it was he [Plumlee], he relented, and now he admits it is he.

By the way, please do NOT call me anything other than by my first name, and stop acting like you are someone special, not subject to the rules and just general civil behavior as are others. The Forum rules address not saying negative things about other persons who post here - and being generally civil on the Forum - even to most outsiders [not attacking them, only perhaps critiquing their ideas], your current attempt to denigrate Plumlee, who is a member here, is pretty below the belt, IMO. You were very friendly, even solicitous, in your interview with him, but now stab him behind his back. Says a lot about character - yours more than his, to me. It also makes me wonder about your motives.

These guys all lived a life full of lies and 'legends' they hid behind professionally; no doubt some adding to that due to personality and the need/desire to protect themselves and their secretive lives. I don't believe anything any of them say without verification of one kind or another. They also have - and have always had alliances and enemies within the groups they sometimes had to interact with, as is natural - perhaps more so with covert operatives because they were involved in such intense actions of life and death, near death and being pitted one against the other by those forces that guided them in their operations; although in any set of persons there are those who become close and those who are at 'odds' with someone for all manner of reasons. Your high horse nonsense, a few posts above, that you, Scott, have all the facts, if only others would recognize that, is illogical, not true, and arrogant, IMO. You will convince more by amicably presenting your views and evidence - than antagonistic posts or provocations against others.

Post here following the rules, but get off your high horse, and in a civil manner present your facts and evidence. That your father was once involved with some of these guys, doing ops himself with these men and others doesn't, by itself, give you a 'free pass'. After trying to petulantly chide or dare, even task, members here to name exactly who is in the photo, you say you 'could but won't' name others because it is a public forum and you might sometime talk to some of these guys and they might not like being named - is a very poor cop-out, IMO. It is just as likely you don't know or are not sure. But at the same time you are trying to make others look bad for their opinions on who is whom, what is what - that is not civil interaction here. You are entitled to your views, but others are equally entitled to theirs. While opinions are sometimes OK and an educated opinion is often the best one can do in this field, if one has some evidence/documents/interviews/research to back up the opinions, it is always preferable that that be presented, when available.

There is not one standard on the Forum for others and one special one for you. You've already had some of your posts on this thread removed, as I said before, because they abrogated the rules. However, rather than tempering your behavior, you seem to want to go to the 'line' as close and as repeatedly as you can.

[David Andrews]

Is there a photo of Tosh Plumlee in youth to compare?

[Magda Hassan]

I've seen some and have some and he looks the same as in the photo at the restaurant. I'm sure there are some elsewhere on the forum too.

[Scott Kaiser]

It appears someone was trying to send me an email though this site, if you would please send to my private address at scott-kaiser@hotmail.com, I cannot not get email on this site due to my pop up blocker, thanks.

Has anyone ever told you growing up that you looked like so and so, I use to get that all the time, folks would tell me wow! you look just like "robo cop" not that I would complain, but I'm really, really sorry folks especially to you too [deleted] Peter, it sounds as though you have some investment into Tosh being in this photo, but it's NOT Tosh. Sorry folks!

[Magda Hassan]

Scott just call Peter Peter. Not Mr Peter.

[Scott Kaiser]

First off Tosh didn't even know Virgilio R. Gonzales who was apart of Op40 with Sturgis, Tosh was NOT, why can't people understand this I just don't get it, everyone is so focus on half of a mans face, but doesn't see the man sitting next to him? Everyone knows that Sturgis and Gonzalez knew each other since Op40 but Tosh did NOT know Gonzalez. This is information I've received from Miami. I have my proof! I keep telling you, but you keep over looking it, it's like deja vu all over again with the BOP's thing wow!

[Scott Kaiser]

Scott just call Peter Peter. Not Mr Peter.

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