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It doesn't matter how many witnesses heard how many shots when. Two shots accounting for all the wounds is still dependent on the SBT, which has been disproved any number of ways. The singular fact that there was a bullet hole in JFK's shirt, 6 inches below his collar means that for the SBT to work a shot fired at a downward angle would have to deflect upward at about 11 degrees and exit from the president's throat traveling at an upward angle. With nothing between JFK and Connolly but air, there is no way that bullet would change direction downward again to strike Connolly, in this physical universe. And don't tell me the shirt was bunched up. Any tailor will tell you that could not happen unless JFK jumped out of the limo during the motorcade to engage in a quick game of touch football and failed to tuck his shirttail back in prior to entering Dealey Plaza.
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Gordon Gray Wrote:It doesn't matter how many witnesses heard how many shots when. Two shots accounting for all the wounds is still dependent on the SBT, which has been disproved any number of ways.
Indeed. Then there are other things that to do with timing which don't even put Oswald on the 6th floor at that time. I've not seen any thing to indicate that Oswald was a 'homicidal maniac'. A very florid description for quite an ordinary man just in extraordinary events.
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Gordon Gray Wrote:It doesn't matter how many witnesses heard how many shots when. Two shots accounting for all the wounds is still dependent on the SBT, which has been disproved any number of ways. The singular fact that there was a bullet hole in JFK's shirt, 6 inches below his collar means that for the SBT to work a shot fired at a downward angle would have to deflect upward at about 11 degrees and exit from the president's throat traveling at an upward angle. With nothing between JFK and Connolly but air, there is no way that bullet would change direction downward again to strike Connolly, in this physical universe. And don't tell me the shirt was bunched up. Any tailor will tell you that could not happen unless JFK jumped out of the limo during the motorcade to engage in a quick game of touch football and failed to tuck his shirttail back in prior to entering Dealey Plaza.
Eleven degrees upward referred to angle between the transverse plane of the torso/neck and the straight line joining the back wound to the throat wound. This transverse angle differs from the 21-degree declination angle between the geographical horizontal and the trajectory of the bullet by the victim's lean angle between the geographic horizontal and the transverse plane.
This suggested explanation required that JFK had an unrealistic 32-degree lean when a bullet entered his back. However, no such problem arises if a bullet were fired from an elevated weapon entered the throat and exited the back.
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Herbert Blenner Wrote:Gordon Gray Wrote:It doesn't matter how many witnesses heard how many shots when. Two shots accounting for all the wounds is still dependent on the SBT, which has been disproved any number of ways. The singular fact that there was a bullet hole in JFK's shirt, 6 inches below his collar means that for the SBT to work a shot fired at a downward angle would have to deflect upward at about 11 degrees and exit from the president's throat traveling at an upward angle. With nothing between JFK and Connolly but air, there is no way that bullet would change direction downward again to strike Connolly, in this physical universe. And don't tell me the shirt was bunched up. Any tailor will tell you that could not happen unless JFK jumped out of the limo during the motorcade to engage in a quick game of touch football and failed to tuck his shirttail back in prior to entering Dealey Plaza.
Eleven degrees upward referred to angle between the transverse plane of the torso/neck and the straight line joining the back wound to the throat wound. This transverse angle differs from the 21-degree declination angle between the geographical horizontal and the trajectory of the bullet by the victim's lean angle between the geographic horizontal and the transverse plane.
This suggested explanation required that JFK had an unrealistic 32-degree lean when a bullet entered his back. However, no such problem arises if a bullet were fired from an elevated weapon entered the throat and exited the back.
What ever it was you said is a mystery to me but I agree with your conclusion, "if a bullet were fired from an elevated weapon entered the throat and exited the back"
Herbert, ever contemplate where the bullet went, did it hit the Queen Mary or bounce off the street, what is your opinion when this shot was fired and why?
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A bullet shot from the front that entered at the wound in the neck and then exited the back would almost certainly impact the vertebrae.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:A bullet shot from the front that entered at the wound in the neck and then exited the back would almost certainly impact the vertebrae.
What if the head is turned dramatically to the right as seen in Z-189?
Would this alignment put the entrance wound to the right side of the spine as well as the back wound therefore avoiding the spine?
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JFK's not shot at frame 189. He's waving and relaxed after Z-189. Now in the post-Brugioni era I'm not sure how much of Zapruder you can use if any.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:JFK's not shot at frame 189. He's waving and relaxed after Z-189. Now in the post-Brugioni era I'm not sure how much of Zapruder you can use if any.
Albert, could you answer my question please, I am not interested when you believe KENNEDY is wounded in the throat.
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Bob Mady Wrote:Albert, could you answer my question please, I am not interested when you believe KENNEDY is wounded in the throat.
How could when Kennedy was shot not have anything to do with it? When they realized the neck wound was an entry wound they also tried to turn Kennedy towards the shot.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Bob Mady Wrote:Albert, could you answer my question please, I am not interested when you believe KENNEDY is wounded in the throat.
How could when Kennedy was shot not have anything to do with it? When they realized the neck wound was an entry wound they also tried to turn Kennedy towards the shot.
Does this mean that if KENNEDY was shot at Z-189, the bullet could have possibly passed thru his body and out his back without hitting his spine?
