The 'White Widow' Killed by Russian Sniper

[Peter Lemkin]

I'm afraid that 7/7 is an area I have no knowledge in with regards to false flag etc.

Odd that you'd post about what you have no knowledge about...but, avail yourself of the many threads on 7/7 here on this Forum [and elsewhere] - it was the U.K.'s '9-11' and follows most of the patterns of that event - even though it was another and smaller event - both were false flag - as are so many other 'events' in the War OF Terror.

[Martin White]

My post was in response to a request for UK members to comment on the original post.

I haven't yet read enough to reach any conclusions on 7/7, but I am in the process of reading the thread that Lauren linked to.

[Carsten Wiethoff]

Regarding Lewthwaite, I can recommend http://porkinspolicyreview.wordpress.com...terrorist/

[Lauren Johnson]

More on the alleged White Widow from RT. Pretty good.

EDIT: prediction -- this story will so many others that will just fade away, but will leave a trace of intended message: "Russian sniper" delivered in a mythological package.

[R.K. Locke]

Tom Secker's book on 7/7 is now available for free download:

http://t.co/68PThsZ753


He has also done a lot of good stuff about Samantha Lewthwaite in the past. See:

http://www.investigatingtheterror.com/au...lex_G.html

And...

http://www.investigatingtheterror.com/au...derson.htm


I'll be very interested to hear his take on this supposed assassination. Maybe she will be another one of those people who ends up dying three or four times...

[Drew Phipps]

I thought the Russians WERE the ones making the claim to have killed her. And a sniper is a combat troop not an advisor.

[Lauren Johnson]

I thought the Russians WERE the ones making the claim to have killed her. And a sniper is a combat troop not an advisor.

More precisely, a Russian reporter for Regnum, a Russian news agency, made the claim lacking verification. The Aidar commander says no way.

[Magda Hassan]

I thought the Russians WERE the ones making the claim to have killed her. And a sniper is a combat troop not an advisor.

I have not read the original Russian article but from the UK press it is my understanding of this is that it is just a Russian volunteer who went to Lugansk to fight. Not part of any 'Russian invasion'. There are many Russian volunteers there joining local Ukrainians and Russian resistance fighters and there are also many volunteers from other parts of the former Soviet Union as well as countries from the West. Every Russian male (with few exceptions) has done military service because of conscription if for no other reason. Conscription was also compulsory in the Ukraine until 2013 but they have reinstated it since May this year. So lots of tooled up trained males walking around that area. The fact that there are Russian snipers there is not the least surprising. It would be surprising if there were none. What I find interesting is why she was there and who sent her and to what end? She sure gets around. But Lauren you are right about the MSM playing up the 'Russian sniper' angle. And we know why. Currently there are 2 Russian naval ships and one supply vessel steaming towards Australia hanging around near Brisbane where Putin is to be any day now. But in the MSM this is being covered like it is a full blown imminent Russian invasion as if it is the Potemkin all over again. If only. Perhaps the Russian navy are bringing ebola with them?

[Magda Hassan]

No doubt if the Russians had shot OBL the Russophobes would all be saying it was exploiting the those who died in 911.
So many things about the coverage of this are amusing or questionable. Firstly, the missing body of Bin Laden comes to mind. They want to see her body or it didn't happen. Well, yeah, we want to see OBL too. Been waiting a while for that. Secondly, why just the British 7/7 victims are being 'exploited' by those dastardly Russians? Africans were murdered too. But not all lives are equal in Mirrorland. Thirdly, very quiet about what the Aidar batallion is and that it is owned by the ruthless oligarch and wanted war criminal Igor Kolomoysky and full of mercenaries ('volunteers') and that it has been accused by the MSM and Amnesty Internationalof ISIS like attacks and beheadings. He pays $10,000 bounty for each Russian rebel. Forthly, that these Kievian mercenaries of the Aidar batallion are the favorites of the west and full of western mercenaries with their ISIS like tactics with or with out the White Widow. She would be right at home there. So in Africa she is evil and a terrorist and in the Ukrains she is a plucky freedom fighter defending against the invading Russians. How do they explain that? Going from the MSM coverage it would seem the Russian killed her just to spite the west. If they know she is not in Ukraine and is some where else why don't they arrest her where she is? Where is she getting these passports from?

Russia accused of exploiting 7/7 victims over claims White Widow has been killed by Sniper in Ukraine as terror-hunters demand to be shown her corpse

• Lewthwaite was reported last month as fighting for the Isis terrorists
  
• She was reportedly gunned down by a Russian sniper two weeks ago
  
• The claim was made by Regnum news agency in Moscow
  
• The extraordinary claim that the 30-year-old is dead has yet to be verified
  
• Claims come amid huge build up of Russian armour and troops in Ukraine
  
• Expert believes the claims she's dead is merely Russian propaganda
  
• There has been no confirmed sighting since she was seen in 2011 in Africa
  

By Will Stewart And Ted Thornhill For Mailonline
Published: 11:15 GMT, 13 November 2014 | Updated: 18:16 GMT, 13 November 2014
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Ukraine today accused Russia of exploiting the grief of terrorism victims by claiming that notorious 'White Widow' Samantha Lewthwaite was gunned to death while fighting for Kiev.
The report from a Moscow news agency of her demise was a 'cynical lie' for propaganda purposes, aimed at stirring strong feelings in Britain over her alleged terrorism.
'This person is involved in the murders of many people,' alleged Andriy Lysenko, of Ukraine's National Security and Defence Council.
It came as intelligence chiefs in Kenya challenged Moscow to 'show us the corpse' as evidence that Lewthwaite really has been killed in a Ukrainian shoot-out in the eastern town of Debaltsevo.

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A British woman terrorist suspect dubbed the 'White Widow' has been killed in Ukraine, it was claimed on Wednesday

'In particular, she is suspected of the attack on a shopping mall in the Kenyan capital Nairobi.
'Her husband staged the terrorist attack in the London tube in 2005.
'This means that Russian media are speculating on people's grief. This is a cynical lie and we are pleased that more and more people in the West are learning to recognize and uncover Russian propaganda.'
Referring to an earlier fake report, he said: 'This is another invention by Russian media like the "crucified boy".'
He complained: 'This information has nothing to do with reality. This is a fake made up specifically for US and UK audience, since the White Widow story is sensitive for them.'

Reports suggested 30-year-old Lewthwaite had been fighting for the Aidar battalion in Ukraine when she was gunned down by a Russian sniper.

Serhiy Melnychuk, the commander of this battalion, said it was nonsense.
'Give it some time, and the Russians will start saying that Osama bin Laden himself is fighting in Aidar,' he said.
Earlier Kenyan intelligence chiefs challenged the Russian government over claims that Lewthwaite had been killed in a Ukrainian shoot-out in the eastern town of Debaltsevo.
They sent a message to Moscow today saying 'show us the body' amid claims by pro-Russian rebels that she'd 'died an agonising death'.
Counter-terrorism officers and intelligence agencies in Kenya have been hunting Lewthwaite for four years and while they would welcome the news that she is dead they told MailOnline: 'This is just not believable and we cannot give it credence until her body has been shown to the public, to the British government or to her family.'

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Reports last month claimed Lewthwaite - a former soldier's daughter - joined Islamic State earlier this year and became one of the most powerful women in the network

Kenyan Intelligence sources dubbed the claims 'almost certainly pro-Russian propaganda'.
They say that adding Lewthwaite's name to the Ukrainian volunteers effectively labels the group terrorists, a notion they want to promote internationally.
'We have been following this woman's movements over the years and we know she has been behind murderous bomb attacks in Kenya, as well as radicalising local youths', sources said. 'We would frankly be happy to know that she has been eliminated but we cannot take these reports seriously.'

The journalist behind the story, Alexey Toporov, a supporter of the separatists, today claimed that Lewthwaite died an agonising death.
He said: 'It is said that her death was not quick - which was the right way to do it.'
His words implied that the 30-year-old jihadist suffered a lingering death after being shot by 'a young but already experienced sniper volunteer from Russia'.
However, Dr Igor Sutyagin, Senior Research Fellow in Russian Studies at defence think tank the Royal United Services Institute, added his voice to those that are sceptical about the claims.
He told MailOnline: 'Why would the rebels hold on to this information for two weeks? And why have they not presented the body? And how would they know it's her? The agency that produced this story is a bit mad. The timing of the news is suspicious. Only when there's a new wave of sanctions from the West do they publish something, to cast themselves in a better light.'
Toporov claimed that Lewthwaite used a South African passport in a fake name - Natalie Faye Webb - to enter Ukraine.
He published an image of the passport, stating: 'Here are the fake documents the White Widowused in order to get into Ukraine.'
However the identical image of the passport he highlighted has been published previously, including by MailOnline - suggesting he did not have access to it in Ukraine.
Nor is it clear how the rebels knew her identity.
Dr Sutyagin added that the claim she's dead is also suspicious because the pro-Kiev Aidar battalion Regnum claimed she's fighting for operates around 60 miles from Debaltsevo, where she reportedly died.
He said: 'Either she did not fight with them, or she was killed elsewhere - or the whole story is fake.'
His suspicion is also that the pro-Putin agency that released the story is trying to suggest that the Kiev government is allied with terrorists.

He said: 'Regnum is a propaganda outlet that's known for its wild anti-Kiev attitudes. It's just sensation.'
A Western intelligence source said: 'We believed she's somewhere in the east Africa region, if she's still alive. But to be honest she's not a high priority. There are countless other people higher up in the food chain, people who are active on operational and finance matters. She is more of an oddity, a curiosity. Obviously there's a lot of media interest in the UK for obvious reasons, but she doesn't cause me sleepless nights.'
'If she turned up in Pakistan, in Yemen, in Syria… maybe, but Ukraine is not really an obvious destination for a jihadi, to say the least.'
Another Kenyan security source said she's probably in Somalia.
The White Widow's temporary Nairobi lair (Archive)






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Toporov claimed that Lewthwaite used a South African passport in a fake name - Natalie Faye Webb - to enter Ukraine, but this photograph could have been downloaded from the internet

He said: 'The last confirmed information on her whereabouts was a few years ago [in 2011]. We got close to arresting her but she went to ground. She's still at large maybe in Somalia with Al-Shabab, but there is no concrete information.'
In the past few years Lewthwaite has been variously reported as being seen riding a camel in Somalia, as well as across the other side of Africa, in Nigeria.
But there has been no confirmed sightings since she gave Kenyan police the slip in Mombasa in 2011.
In August detectives hunting Lewthwaite were ordered to appear in court Thursday in the port city Mombasa after failing to heed previous summons to provide updates on their search.
'We have tried to arrest her, but she keeps on changing her identity and location,' said Abednego Kilonzo, a police chief inspector, in a statement at the time.
'She must have a new name from the previous ones,' the statement added.
Toporov claimed today on a social media site that Lewthwaite was deployed as a sniper in Donetsk region.
'The White Widow ended in a bad way. To be more exact, she ended up killing people.
'This viper, who organised the attack on a shopping centre in Nairobi where people including women and children were shot dead because they could not tell the name of Muhammad's first wife, was using false name and fighting in Donbass.
'She was a sniper in one of the (Ukrainian) punishment battalions, supposedly Aidar. She killed many of our guys.
'At the end, she was shot by a young but already very experienced sniper volunteer from Russia.
'He did not even care for the $5million USD promised by Interpol for the head of this viper. '
The journalist, a former editor from Kazan, capital of the Russian republic of Tatarstan, has campaigned against radical Muslims.
Last year he was involved in a street fight with an alleged extremist Tatar Muslim figure.
This year he served as press officer for the self-styled Lugansk People's Republic in rebel-held eastern Ukraine.
He quit and went back to Russia, but has now returned to Lugansk as a journalist.
Kenyan intelligence chiefs point out that Lewthwaite, 30, has never been known to take up arms despite her high-profile membership of the Somali Islamic extremist group Al-Shabaab. She is believed to be most useful to them in communications and logistics, and in mobilising funds through money-laundering schemes.
Lewthwaite is wanted on a red-alert Interpol warrant for acquiring and assembling bomb-making equipment used in a number of Al-Shabaab attacks in Mombasa, on Kenya's eastern coast.
She slipped through a British police net through a series of blunders after her husband Germaine Lindsay took a suicide bomb on to the London underground in July, 2005, blowing up 52 people including himself.
Lewthwaite claimed to have known nothing of his extremist activities but she next surfaced in 2011 in a Muslim ghetto area of Mombasa where she was assembling bomb-making equipment with other Al-Shabaab suspects.
Several were arrested and are currently standing trial while Lewthwaite fooled local counter-terrorism police with a false South African passport for herself and her two young children by Linsday.
She was interviewed at the house of a known al-Qaeda member and allowed to stay there overnight while her passport was checked. When police returned the next day with a warrant she had fled.
Reports last month claimed Lewthwaite - a former soldier's daughter who was born in Northern Ireland and schooled in Aylesbury - joined Islamic State earlier this year and became one of the most powerful women in the network.
She was responsible for training a special team of female suicide bombers in Syria, it was alleged.
Lewthwaite allegedly trained and mentored British converts who volunteered to fight for the IS.
Lewthwaite had been viewed as the innocent Home Counties' wife of a suicide bomber but was later seen as 'the world's most dangerous female terrorist'.
In June 2012 two men and a white woman - believed to be her - wearing Islamic dress killed three and injured 25 at a beer garden in Mombasa after throwing grenades at foreigners watching England play Italy at Euro 2012.
She was also linked to another grenade attack which killed security guards in an upmarket restaurant.
In August, during the trial of Lewthwaite's bomb-making co-conspirators, Mombasa detectives admitted to the court that the trail had gone cold.
They believe she is almost certainly based in the Al-Shabaab stronghold town of Barwane in southern Somalia which lends her safety and security and has a cooler, virtually European-type climate for her and her children.
She is believed to slip back and forth over the porous Somali-Kenyan border easily. But the notion of her using international flights to reach Ukraine are unrealistic. Her photograph, finger-prints and known aliases have been circulated to every airport in East Africa.
The extraordinary unconfirmed claim came amid a welter of propaganda from Moscow and Kiev over the Ukrainian crisis and Russia massing armour and troops in Ukraine.

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Force: An armored personnel carrier belonging to pro-Russian separatists travels on a main road through rebel-territory near the east Ukrainian village of Torez


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Trucks without license plates tow a 122mm howitzer artillery piece through Makiivka in Ukraine


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Military: Pro-Russian gunmen patrol the centre of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine


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A pro-Russian rebel military convoy moves towards Donetsk , eastern Ukraine, on Monday

Nato yesterday warned that Russian military equipment is entering the country on a large-scale.
'Across the last two days we have seen the same thing that OSCE is reporting. We have seen columns of Russian equipment, primarily Russian tanks, Russian artillery, Russian air defence systems and Russian combat troops entering into Ukraine,' said US General Philip Breedlove, supreme allied commander.
The Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) said: 'The level of violence in eastern Ukraine and the risk of further escalation remain high and are rising,' said Michael Bociurkiw of the OSCE's Special Monitoring Mission.
In response, Ukraine has said that it's preparing for all-out war.
Ukrainian Defence Minister Stepan Poltorak told a cabinet meeting: 'The main task I see is to prepare for combat operations. We are doing this, we are readying our reserves.'