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Is This The Long Awaited Pandemic?
#31
There are many very concerning aspects to what MSM is now calling "Mexican Swine Fever/Flu".

However the response of nation states to an infectious, potentially fatal, "virus" is well known from documents leaked from almost every major government in the world.

That response includes:

i) enforced quarantine of "infected areas" through police/military patrolled rings of steel. Drugs will be airdropped and those inside the quarantine zone will be subject to a survival of the fittest ordeal: both in terms of their medical health, and because there will be zero law and order inside the quarantine zone;

ii) complete governmental control over the media on grounds of national security, combined with highly constrained freedom of movement for civilians outside the enforced quarantine zone.

A global pandemic has always been near the top of my list of Their potential wildcards to preserve Their wealth and power through the coming collapse of the global financial system.
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#32
Given that young people are dying from this flu strain, it may be producing a so-called cytokine storm.

This is another good reason not to take Rumsfeld's poision, if it's offered to you.

Quote:A cytokine storm is a potentially fatal immune reaction consisting of a positive feedback loop between cytokines and immune cells, with highly elevated levels of various cytokines.[1]

Symptoms
The primary symptoms of a cytokine storm are high fever, swelling and redness, extreme fatigue, and nausea.

Cause
When the immune system is fighting pathogens, cytokines signal immune cells such as T-cells and macrophages to travel to the site of infection. In addition, cytokines activate those cells, stimulating them to produce more cytokines. Normally, this feedback loop is kept in check by the body. However, in some instances, the reaction becomes uncontrolled, and too many immune cells are activated in a single place. The precise reason for this is not entirely understood but may be caused by an exaggerated response when the immune system encounters a new and highly pathogenic invader. Cytokine storms have potential to do significant damage to body tissues and organs.[citation needed] If a cytokine storm occurs in the lungs, for example, fluids and immune cells such as macrophages may accumulate and eventually block off the airways, potentially resulting in death.[citation needed]

The cytokine storm (hypercytokinemia) is the systemic expression of a healthy and vigorous immune system resulting in the release of more than 150 inflammatory mediators (cytokines, oxygen free radicals, and coagulation factors).[citation needed] Both pro-inflammatory cytokines (such as Tumor necrosis factor-alpha, Interleukin-1, and Interleukin-6) and anti-inflammatory cytokines (such as interleukin 10 and interleukin 1 receptor antagonist) are elevated in the serum of patients experiencing a cytokine storm.[citation needed]

Cytokine storms can occur in a number of infectious and non-infectious diseases including graft versus host disease (GVHD), adult respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), sepsis, avian influenza, smallpox, and systemic inflammatory response syndrome (SIRS).[2]

The first reference to the term cytokine storm in the published medical literature appears to be by Ferrara et al.[3] in GVHD in February 1993.

Role in pandemic deaths
It is believed that cytokine storms were responsible for many of the deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic, which killed a disproportionate number of young adults.[1] In this case, a healthy immune system may have been a liability rather than an asset. Preliminary research results from Hong Kong also indicated this as the probable reason for many deaths during the SARS epidemic in 2003.[citation needed] Human deaths from the bird flu H5N1 usually involve cytokine storms as well.[citation needed] Recent reports of high mortality among healthy young adults in the 2009 swine flu outbreak point to cytokine storms as being responsible for these deaths.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#33
[B]The following from:[/B]
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLE...gists.html

The mysterious deaths of top microbiologists

It all began with Don Wiley. On November 15th, Harvard Professor Don Wiley left a gathering of friends and colleagues some time after 10:30 PM. The next morning, Memphis police found his rental car stopped on a bridge, with a full tank of gas and keys still in the ignition. There was no financial or family trouble. Indeed Wiley was supposed to meet his family at the Memphis airport to continue on to an Icelandic vacation. Neither was there any history of depression or mental illness.

In the report printed in the New York Times on November 27th, the FBI's Memphis office distanced itself from the case saying that the available facts did not add up to a suspicion of foul play. I guess at the FBI it's a perfectly everyday occurrence for a Harvard Professor to stop his rental car on a bridge in the middle of the night before he is supposed to leave for Iceland and just walk away into the Tennessee dark.

The NYT report of November 27th also downplayed Professor Wiley's expertise in virology, quoting Gregory Verdine, a professor of chemical biology at Harvard, said, "If bioterrorists were to abduct Don Wiley, they'd be very disappointed," because his research was in studying the component parts of viruses, and "that doesn't really help you make a more dangerous version of the virus."

But this statement is not consistent with the facts of Professor Wiley's full range of knowledge. Wiley has, in conjunction with another Harvard Professor, Dr. Jack Strominger, won several academic prizes for their work in immunology, including a Lasker prize. Don Wiley is a Harvard professor, but he is also a researcher at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, and the National Institute of Health. The Howard Hughes Medical Institute is located in Chevy Chase, Maryland, and performs biological research, sometimes jointly funded by the Department of Defense and the NIH. Don Wiley's peers at Harvard include professors such as John Collier performing research on Anthrax.

So, contrary to the dismissive tone of the New York Times report, Professor Wiley would be of great value to anyone developing biological weapons. This makes the FBI's obvious disinterest in the case highly questionable, indeed reminiscent of the FBI's obvious disinterest in the numerous witnesses in Oklahoma City who had seen Tim McVeigh in the company of additional perpetrators not to mention the witnesses who had seen additional bombs.

Especially in light of the events of 9/11, the vanishing of a scientist with Professor Wiley's expertise in virology and immunology should have been expected to be an issue of critical national importance, yet the official tone of the government was that this is nothing to worry about. Move along citizen, nothing to see.

In the context of the Anthrax letters being sent through the mail, any disappearance of any microbiologist under questionable circumstances should have set off alarm bells across the nation. but it didn't. Professor Wiley was assumed to have committed suicide, end of story.

The professor's colleagues expressed doubts about the official "suicide" explanation for his disappearance.

Then, more biologists started to die under suspicious circumstances.

The Very Mysterious Deaths of Five Microbiologists.

The body count of infections disease experts continued to climb. Connections to weapons research began to surface.

As many as 14 world-class microbiologists died between 9/11/1 and 3/2/2, and on 6/24/2 yet another microbiologist was added to the list.

Still the US Government acted as if nothing was amiss, as silent on the question of dead microbiologists as they are on the question of the Israeli spies and their connection to 9-11.

In fact, the official silence on the question of how so many top experts in infectious diseases could die in such a short time span is deafening.
Now, statistically, it's possible, even likely, that one or two of these microbiologists legitimately were killed in random accidents. But for so many to die in such a short while exceeds all reasonable bounds of statistics.

Prudence would demand an investigation, not the "ho hum" attitude of the government which even today continues to issue dire warnings to the general population of how much we are all in danger from "bioterrorism".

So, let's take a moment and step away from the perpetual fear-mongering of the media (and Rumsfeld) as they assure us another attack IS coming (with a certainty which suggests inside information on the subject) and assume for a moment that some party has indeed decided to "liquidate" weapons research infectious disease experts.

There is really only one reason to kill off a bunch of scientists. To keep them from doing something they are able to do.
What were these scientists able to do? Maybe blow the whistle if an artificially created disease was about to be used in a manner those who created it did not approve of.

Regardless of the exact reason, there does seem to be a clear pattern of targeted microbiologists, and paired with it, an obvious government disinterest in the matter.
I leave it to you to figure out why.

See also:
[URL="http://rense.com/general62/list.htm"][size=12]Dead Scientists And Microbiologists - Master List
[/URL]Anthrax and 9/11 - Index of What Really Happened[/SIZE]
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#34
Add Israel to the list. It now seems likely that large, unsanitary, crowded (and cruel) commercial pig-farms might be responsible - if this is a natural (sic) event. Another reason to consider promotion of vegetarianism or, at least, free-range animals. The Avian flu was coming from the similar commercial chicken farms in SEA. Anyway you look at it humans and their overpopulation, domination and industrialization/corporatization of the Planet is destroying everything and may soon consume us all. Mad cow disease (caused by a prion, not a virus) was spread and impelled by crowded commercial cow herds. This planet needs to rid itself of the human plague, unless we return to the Natural fold and sustainability. See my thread in Environment on Jensen. He is calling for the immediate dismantling of 'civilization'. [The Deep Political 'stuff' would also play in to this view, in the dismantling of empire(s), the domination paradigm and a return to neo-tribalism......]

Someone seems to be cooking the Mexico books on cases [likely to avoid panic] as the numbers of dead have not increased in 24 hours - nearly an impossibility.
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#35
Quote:In Mexico, state health authorities looking for the initial source of the outbreak toured a million-pig hog farm in Perote, in Veracruz State. The plant is half-owned by Smithfield Foods, an American company and the world's largest pork producer. Mexico's first known swine flu case, which was later confirmed, was from Perote, according to Health Minister Jos? ?ngel C?rdova. The case involved a 5-year-old boy who recovered.But a spokesman for the plant said the boy was not related to a plant worker, that none of its workers were sick and that its hogs were vaccinated against flu.
The Smithfield Virus?

From the NY Times today's edition I think. Sorry lost the link.

Apparently there are 15 cases in Australia now. Or was that NSW?

They could ban all travel for every one except for medical reasons and that would stop the spread. But won't the business crowd scream about that? Can't interfere with profits.
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#36
I have to say that I am watching the media's possible but always profitable panic, er, pandemic with considerable cynicism.
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#37
Oddly enough, USA's National Public Radio, usually a bastion of the official line, this evening presented some ugly historical facts about flu vaccinations:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story...=103582555
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#38
Seen here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100...swine-flu/

My analysis:

“H1N1’s” now the name of the flu,
because sellin’ pork is what we must do.
It’s not all about the people who are dyin’
It’s really about companies sellin’ swine.
“Swine Flu” is so out; “H1N1”'s so in,
the result of our Homeland Security’s spin.

So if you get sniffles, sore throat and some coughin’,
don’t use that piggy name that we've heard so often.

Instead use the consonants and numbers prescriptive,
that will save the economy of corporations, pork addictive.
I leave it to you which will win out in the press,
Napolitano’s “H1N1” or “Swine Flu”?

It’s your guess.
"If you're looking for something that isn't there, you're wasting your time and the taxpayers' money."

-Michael Neuman, U.S. Government bureaucrat, on why NIST didn't address explosives in its report on the WTC collapses
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#39
:hahaha:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#40
I've been following this story carefully. While I don't discount the posts [including my own] above that hint [or more than hint] of possible anthropogenic or sinister cause(s) of this disease, or the media and PTB using it to further terrify the Public, profit, etc. Whatever the cause and irregardless of the hype and fearmongering it is a very real danger now. It is very clearly now being transmitted easily person to person, and no one has prior immunity. A few students in New York who had just returned from Mexico City developed this flu upon return and now most of their entire school have flu-like symptoms. The same is starting to happen worldwide. The only unknown now is how virulent it will be. My prediction, being trained in Public Health, is the WHO call is correct and there is a much better than even chance this will accelerate and spread widely to worldwide in the next few weeks, as did the 'Spanish Flu' in 1918. Then there were, I believe, 40,000,000 dead recorded. If this is virulent the death toll will be far greater, if not too virulent [let us hope!] far less. Thus far most cases out of Mexico have not been lethal, but now there are some recorded deaths outside of Mexico. It is a very bad situation. :afraid: This will also deal an economic blow worldwide, on top of the bankers/financiers war on the rest of us.

This is now a very serious threat, and one way or the other yet another sign of humans living a 'life out of balance' - Koyaanisqatsi

* The "NAFTA Flu": Critics Say Swine Flu Has Roots in Forcing Poor Countries to Accept Western Agribusiness *
Professor and author Robert Wallace says the swine flu is partly the outcome of neoliberal policies that forced poorer countries to open their markets to poorly regulated Western agribusiness giants.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/29/the_nafta_flu
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