Blatburst-Roy, Carpenter and Holland

[David Josephs]

Are we simply talking about frames 208-212 which were spliced back in from a SS copy of the film or completely new, unnumbered frames?

This is 193-207 stabilized on JFK - there seems to be a very fast head turn in these "individual" frames




And this would be frames 207-213. JFK's head is barely visible

[Jim DiEugenio]

Those aren't high quality enough.

See Groden had it on 16 mm film projected onto an auditorium screen.

He also had it in what he calls Groden scope, which means he slows it down, stabilizes it and at times can crop it so your eye is at a certain place.

It was, as I said, really compelling. But see, he was not the first onto this point. It was really Ray Marcus in the sixties who detected that head buckle before JFK goes behind the sign.

But anyway, my main point is that all of this "careful research" and pointing out the critics as "mythologists" is leading Roy/Blatburst to one major point: the WC was right. There was no conspiracy.

This is where he is going of course. And its obvious after he posted on the rabid "Oswald did it" Max Holland's site. See if you can call certain people in the critical community mythologists , and yet post on a guy who, beforehand, knew he was creating a fraud on a TV special, then who are you?

I have been around the bend in this community, so I can see the earmarks.

[Jim DiEugenio]

In my above post, I should have linked to the evidence that Holland's show was a fraud.

http://www.ctka.net/reviews/lost_bullet.html

Please note especially the last section.

This is where Roy/Blatburst posts his review of Carpenter's cover up book.

[Jim DiEugenio]

http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/...es-friends

The above is one of the early signs of why I began to have my doubts about Roy/Blatburst.

It is an utterly fascinating display of two laymen trying to go after a doctor. And not doing very well.

Note also who Roy/Blatburst is allied with, the inveterate cover up man Dave Reitzes. Which matches with him putting his review of the Clay Shaw cover up book on Max Hollands's web site.

In the long debate on EF about Judy Baker where Jim Fetzer fell on his sword, I tried to gently tell Jim he should defer to someone like Bill Davy about Clinton/Jackson and not take her word for it.

Know who Blatburst/Roy recommended? Patricia Lambert.

Does it get more clear than this.

Anyway, enjoy this interesting colloquy. And let me add, Reitzes says here that I hold that Ferrie was murdered. That is not so. I have never said that. I don't know what happened to Ferrie in any certain way. That is just a cheap smear on his part in order to polarize the discussion.

[Jim DiEugenio]

BTW, I just reread the whole colloquy.

What a treat. Repeat: What a treat.

The doctor just kept his cool and mowed them both down.

This is one of the most interesting and informative discussions of Ferrie's death I have read.

And all the info and interest comes from the doctor.

[Albert Doyle]

How could he die of a berry aneurysm while having two flowery suicide notes?

[Jim DiEugenio]

Because according to Blatburst-Roy, they weren't really (unsigned) suicide notes.

[Albert Doyle]

Mm, hm.


I have no doubt Ferrie was covertly murdered.



I suppose when Ferrie told Lou Ivon he was a dead man he was talking about his berry aneurysm?

[Jim DiEugenio]

And it was just a coincidence he did not sign two typed suicide notes?

[Jim DiEugenio]

Note that in this exchange, Roy/Blatburst is teamed with the infamous Dave Reitzes.

Reitzes says toward the end that though he tends to think that the JFK case may have been a conspiracy, he has never seen any genuine evidence that Garrison's ideas on the plot were valid.

That is not really the truth.

http://www.ctka.net/LetJusticeBeDone/rebuttal.htm

As one can read at the end of Davy's fine article, Mr. Reitzes was once, many years ago, in the LBJ did it camp. When he produced a crappy essay on the subject called Yellow Roses, he was kidded about that by a couple of guys who were pro Garrison, that is the CIA was in on it. Its at that point that he united with McAdams and became his anti Garrison guy.

But as one can see by Bill's (and the doctor's) vivisection of his work, he is not very good at it.

These are the kind of people that "the careful researcher" Roy/Blatburst finds a home with.