US politicians and Israel

[Tracy Riddle]

So Carly Fiorina has announced that her FIRST phone call as President would be to her good friend, Bibi Netanyahu. Now, I've been following politics for over 30 years, and I suddenly realized that until recently you would never have heard an American politician say something like that. It would have sounded really weird. But in the last 15+ years, it's become almost normal (especially in the GOP, but also in the Dem Party). The growing influence of Zionist Neo-Conservatives on our political and media establishment is really disturbing.

[Lauren Johnson]

So Carly Fiorina has announced that her FIRST phone call as President would be to her good friend, Bibi Netanyahu. Now, I've been following politics for over 30 years, and I suddenly realized that until recently you would never have heard an American politician say something like that. It would have sounded really weird. But in the last 15+ years, it's become almost normal (especially in the GOP, but also in the Dem Party). The growing influence of Zionist Neo-Conservatives on our political and media establishment is really disturbing.

Especially after hearing the definitive funeral orations on the death of the neocons and how they had completely self-destructed. Not.

[David Guyatt]

So Carly Fiorina has announced that her FIRST phone call as President would be to her good friend, Bibi Netanyahu. Now, I've been following politics for over 30 years, and I suddenly realized that until recently you would never have heard an American politician say something like that. It would have sounded really weird. But in the last 15+ years, it's become almost normal (especially in the GOP, but also in the Dem Party). The growing influence of Zionist Neo-Conservatives on our political and media establishment is really disturbing.

Especially after hearing the definitive funeral orations on the death of the neocons and how they had completely self-destructed. Not.

If I were elected my first phone call would be to Putin to apologize for past US leaders for repeatedly fucking over and breaking promises to Russia since the end of the cold war, and suggest that in future we work together for for a better future. That's the second reason why I'd never get elected.

My second tellingbone call would be Tony Blair to tell him he's going to be charged with war crimes. Which is the third reason I'd never get elected.

My third call would be to Bibi to tell him that I'm nominating Israel for a war crimes prosecution. Which is the first reason I'd never get elected.

My last call would be to my lawyer to warn him that I'm about to be deposed and/or suicided on the order of at least three current or former heads of state and their elite sponsors.

Then I'd go down the pub, buy a couple of pints of Adnams bitter and listen to this. Not because I need that sort of healing but because I just love the upbeat and happy arrangements of the Hot 8 Brass Band. And if you're going to go out, then go out happy and smiling and resolutely offering a two finger salute to the crazed, sad fucks that presently happen run our world.
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[Lauren Johnson]

I loved the movie Chef. Just watched it again the other day. Hopefully you would have the kind of luck that Chief Inspector Clouseau had against all the hit men trying to off him.::throwbomb:::oldier::::::

[Magda Hassan]

So Carly Fiorina has announced that her FIRST phone call as President would be to her good friend, Bibi Netanyahu. Now, I've been following politics for over 30 years, and I suddenly realized that until recently you would never have heard an American politician say something like that. It would have sounded really weird. But in the last 15+ years, it's become almost normal (especially in the GOP, but also in the Dem Party). The growing influence of Zionist Neo-Conservatives on our political and media establishment is really disturbing.

Especially after hearing the definitive funeral orations on the death of the neocons and how they had completely self-destructed. Not.

If I were elected my first phone call would be to Putin to apologize for past US leaders for repeatedly fucking over and breaking promises to Russia since the end of the cold war, and suggest that in future we work together for for a better future. That's the second reason why I'd never get elected.

My second tellingbone call would be Tony Blair to tell him he's going to be charged with war crimes. Which is the third reason I'd never get elected.

My third call would be to Bibi to tell him that I'm nominating Israel for a war crimes prosecution. Which is the first reason I'd never get elected.

My last call would be to my lawyer to warn him that I'm about to be deposed and/or suicided on the order of at least three current or former heads of state and their elite sponsors.

Then I'd go down the pub, buy a couple of pints of Adnams bitter and listen to this. Not because I need that sort of healing but because I just love the upbeat and happy arrangements of the Hot 8 Brass Band. And if you're going to go out, then go out happy and smiling and resolutely offering a two finger salute to the crazed, sad fucks that presently happen run our world.
::coolrock:: ::thumbsup::::::::

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I'd vote for you David!
And I'd come to your funeral. If they hadn't rounded me and all your supporters up, and there would be many of us, to teach us what for for voting wrongly!

[Magda Hassan]

Hey, have you been speaking to Jeremy Corbyn David? Sounds like it ::

[David Guyatt]

Hey, have you been speaking to Jeremy Corbyn David? Sounds like it ::

I am Jeremy Corbyn...

Oh, and my last call will be to tell the bankers they're fooked and going to prison for a very long time for conspiring together in a gigantic global fraud.

[Tracy Riddle]

As far as Putin is concerned, Russia has unfortunately joined the countries criminalizing free speech. Last year they passed laws against Holocaust revisionism. No matter what you think about that subject, revisionists have the right to express their views without being put in jail or fined or banned. Most of the "democratic" countries of continental Europe, along with Canada and Australia and New Zealand, have the same laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_again...ust_denial

Can you think of any other controversial historical subject where people can be jailed for not agreeing with the official story? Are any of us jailed or fined for not accepting the Warren Commission or the 9/11 story, Pearl Harbor or 7/7? People have actually spent time in prison for making a speech, writing a book or article, or running a website - in the West! Not in Iran, China, North Korea or Saudi Arabia. It's like the Catholic Church enforcing orthodoxy through the Spanish Inquisition. No group should have their official history protected by law. And the truth certainly doesn't require it.

[Magda Hassan]

I think that was mostly to deal with the massive campaign to rewrite history that has been going on. Particularly writing out the role of USSR in the fight against fascism. Don't you know it was the Yankees saved us all? They see it much like the NED and other US government sponsored 'NGO's which have tried to take up residence and destabilise he country which have also been booted or placed on a short leash.

[David Guyatt]

I loved the movie Chef. Just watched it again the other day. Hopefully you would have the kind of luck that Chief Inspector Clouseau had against all the hit men trying to off him.::throwbomb:::oldier::::::

I think it's a really enjoyable movie too, Lauren. Good food, great music. But then I really enjoy cooking too, so a natural fir for me.