Methodical Deception - 911 Very Interesting Inside The Airline Persective

[Ken Garretson]

Again, fair enough. We disagree. To me the North Tower looks like it's being blown to smithereens (a technical term ;-)). Unlike anything I have ever seen 'falling down'.

[Ken Garretson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMX7qHGEODs

I thought this was compelling but hey, maybe you can easily debunk this.

[Ken Garretson]

Chandler's page, for anyone interested. I thought it was compelling. Scroll down to the south tower videos, with exploding projectiles.

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[Drew Phipps]

I cannot "debunk" the video's premise, but I have one observation to make. It appears to me that the initial object trailing smoke and moving more or less horizontally, actually strikes another piece of debris (which seems to be rotating) and which is moving more or less vertically. The rotating falling debris is visible above the "smoking girder" and appears to intersect it. Since this apparent intersection occurs not merely from one perspective, but at least 2 (that are in that clip), I believe that it is reasonable to conclude that the two objects actually collided, which would change the trajectory of both pieces, depending on their relative masses.

I have no knowledge about whether girders painted with unexploded nanothermite would emit white or black smoke, or even that nanothermite (which I assumed burned very quickly) would burn slow enough to continue burning for a period of time long enough for that girder to leave the building.

[Ken Garretson]

I like that observation (about directional change)

however, just to come full circle, I'm always uncomfortable with these observations that make me shrug. Kind of like the shapes in blurry photos. In kind of like you in that I really don't know what to say about the 'micro' observations of smoke colors and trails and puffs.

I go back to my original statement, and I know you disagree.

Its the the big picture that I can't get past.

I look at Kennedy and I see someone with the back of his head blown across the trunk lid. Shot from the front. I look at the twin towers coming down and I see something exploding. Stuff shooting out in all directions. Mushroom shaped debris cloud.

I appreciate the comments.

[Drew Phipps]

Listen carefully to what others say, but trust your own instincts.

[Ken Garretson]

My instincts are telling me this Rebekah stuff is mostly horseshit, but I'll keep an open mind.

[Peter Lemkin]

I cannot "debunk" the video's premise, but I have one observation to make. It appears to me that the initial object trailing smoke and moving more or less horizontally, actually strikes another piece of debris (which seems to be rotating) and which is moving more or less vertically. The rotating falling debris is visible above the "smoking girder" and appears to intersect it. Since this apparent intersection occurs not merely from one perspective, but at least 2 (that are in that clip), I believe that it is reasonable to conclude that the two objects actually collided, which would change the trajectory of both pieces, depending on their relative masses.

I have no knowledge about whether girders painted with unexploded nanothermite would emit white or black smoke, or even that nanothermite (which I assumed burned very quickly) would burn slow enough to continue burning for a period of time long enough for that girder to leave the building.

The reaction time of nanothermite is very rapid. The reaction product is Aluminum oxide [in nanothermite it would be nano-sized Aluminum oxide, which is a light white powder - which behaves exactly as seen in these and other images. It was also found in large amounts [along with un-reacted nanothermite] in the rubble piles and in the dust that engulfed lower Manhattan.

None of the towers collapsed - they were exploded. All of them...but the most spectacular explosive events were the two big towers - the physics of which do not allow gravity to be the only energy source - and that is clearly visible to the eye as well - great portions are blown upward and outward and a pyroclastic cloud is formed. The official fiction is not consistent with the laws of the Universe and Physics - they only comport with the propaganda wishes of the conspirators.

[Mark A. O'Blazney]

I cannot "debunk" the video's premise, but I have one observation to make. It appears to me that the initial object trailing smoke and moving more or less horizontally, actually strikes another piece of debris (which seems to be rotating) and which is moving more or less vertically. The rotating falling debris is visible above the "smoking girder" and appears to intersect it. Since this apparent intersection occurs not merely from one perspective, but at least 2 (that are in that clip), I believe that it is reasonable to conclude that the two objects actually collided, which would change the trajectory of both pieces, depending on their relative masses.

I have no knowledge about whether girders painted with unexploded nanothermite would emit white or black smoke, or even that nanothermite (which I assumed burned very quickly) would burn slow enough to continue burning for a period of time long enough for that girder to leave the building.

The reaction time of nanothermite is very rapid. The reaction product is Aluminum oxide [in nanothermite it would be nano-sized Aluminum oxide, which is a light white powder - which behaves exactly as seen in these and other images. It was also found in large amounts [along with un-reacted nanothermite] in the rubble piles and in the dust that engulfed lower Manhattan.

None of the towers collapsed - they were exploded. All of them...but the most spectacular explosive events were the two big towers - the physics of which do not allow gravity to be the only energy source - and that is clearly visible to the eye as well - great portions are blown upward and outward and a pyroclastic cloud is formed. The official fiction is not consistent with the laws of the Universe and Physics - they only comport with the propaganda wishes of the conspirators.

If this was all pre-planned, then there is no hope for us. If the Kennedy assassination was pre-planned, then there is no hope for us. If thinking about thinking about all of this was pre-planned, then……….. it's your Guessing Game. Our move.

[Drew Phipps]

Peter: This guy (Chandler's) premise is that the debris flying outward are steel beams with partly undetonated nanothermite, which according to Chandler, its continuing combustion causes the trails of white smoke and the apparent direction and speed changes of the flying girders.

Are you saying that the nanothermite burns too quickly to still be affecting the beams after they leave the vicinity of the building, i.e. that Chandler is wrong (at least in this premise)?