Methodical Deception - 911 Very Interesting Inside The Airline Persective

[Magda Hassan]

Why are the explosions visible on the long lost cell phone video and not on the video of the collapse captured by MSM and shown by Chandler? The smoke is coming from the right side of the building in some shots and the left side in others. From where was the cell-phone video taken?

Also the first Iphone was released in 2007... Did we have phones with video capability in 2001? There was a Nokia in 2003...

The title on the video does say it was a cell phone but the film says it was from an old digital camera. Nothing about a cell phone. Cell phones did not have camera or video capacities until later. But digital cameras were certainly around.

[Drew Phipps]

At this point, don't we have the right, if not the duty, to be suspicious of "new" evidence? What if folks just blindly accept that video and then someone proves it's a forgery? It would tend to discredit a whole generation of 9/11 skeptics.

I know about the eyewitnesses; this is not about them. I need to hear more on the provenance of that video clip before I accept it at face value.

[Ken Garretson]

At this point, don't we have the right, if not the duty, to be suspicious of "new" evidence? What if folks just blindly accept that video and then someone proves it's a forgery? It would tend to discredit a whole generation of 9/11 skeptics.

I know about the eyewitnesses; this is not about them. I need to hear more on the provenance of that video clip before I accept it at face value.

Agreed

[Magda Hassan]

At this point, don't we have the right, if not the duty, to be suspicious of "new" evidence? What if folks just blindly accept that video and then someone proves it's a forgery? It would tend to discredit a whole generation of 9/11 skeptics.

I know about the eyewitnesses; this is not about them. I need to hear more on the provenance of that video clip before I accept it at face value.

Definitely. I don't know how new the evidence is or where it comes from> We need to know this and more.

[Charles Keeble]

Interesting what this video shows from 45:35 - 46:35

[Peter Lemkin]

Jack White's 911 video analyses had lots on several very large clouds of dust that appeared at times inconsistent with the building collapses (prior). I don't know if his website on this is still up or not...I'll try to find it. Yes, it is still up. There are several images, but http://www.jackwhites911studies.org/911p...ies116.htm to me is perhaps the most suspicious of MANY. I think this is pretty well known by the 911 cognoscenti - there were many eyewitness reports, still and video images, even seismic data of MANY explosions and their effects [billowing clouds from the ground and other locations] that were NOT in any way connected with building collapse - the entire event was staged and pre-planned. These explosions were prior to the collapses - weakening the support structures. It was a series of controlled demolitions disguised to look like a terror attack and it consequences. Nothing could be further from the truth. If it was terrorism, it was State Terror. However, as I say that, I should clarify that just as with Dallas [and all other false-flag terror events] not everyone in the 'state' or its organizations of power and intelligence/military/etc. were 'in on it' before the fact; however, most fell into 'line' and supported the false official story and its prerequisite cover-up without coercion [for the most part]. This type of false patriotism and 'American religion' is sadly innate in so very many in our propagandized nation. Most Americans can NOT think for themselves nor from first principals; and have not learned the lessons of history - as they do not know history, even their own. Most Americans believe a deity is guarding over America and would not allow it to do evil, and any mistakes made by humans would soon be corrected by the system. I believe neither is true, and this kind of magical belief system will allow American [or has allowed America] to become a full totalitarian and propagandized police state in which anything can happen and be painted as something it was not - even the exact opposite. Black can be called white and everyone will nod in agreement. Offense is declared as defense and War is called Peace. 1984 was very prophetic, and has come to pass in my broken nation. Obama was a soporific to appease the displeasure and abuses of W - but nothing much changed on the deepest military, police powers of the state, economic levels. It was all a change of window-dressing, whatever Obama feels in his heart of hearts. He is an infinitely more moral person than was W, but he too is a part of the 'system' and doing its bidding or not stopping it [if there be a difference]. I really fear for America - it is going down the wrong road at breakneck speed, heading for the abyss over which we will soon plunge. I don't personally see a way 'back' after that. Both the USA and Russia are becoming more militaristic, more nationalistic, less democratic, more oligarchic...and China and the EU are not far behind. It is a very dangerous world we are going into. Sane voices are, for the most part, ignored or drown out by the noise of the propaganda and super patriots. The forces of evil and power for the few over the many are on the ascendancy almost everywhere in the World now. Pardon the speech, but for me one can't just talk about the details of events of 911 without looking at why it was done and its effects on the Nation and the World. 911 really did change everything - for the worse - as it was designed to do! [for what is worse for 99% of the World is better for the 1%]

[Peter Lemkin]

Some images from Jack White's website. Show clearly to me that WTC6 was blown up after both towers were hit, but BEFORE the three started to come down [also due to controlled demolition. URL to Jack's site, above.]

[Charles Keeble]

Pardon the speech, but for me one can't just talk about the details of events of 911 without looking at why it was done and its effects on the Nation and the World. 911 really did change everything - for the worse - as it was designed to do! [for what is worse for 99% of the World is better for the 1%]

Your speech was excellent and really needed to be said.

[Tracy Riddle]

Pardon the speech, but for me one can't just talk about the details of events of 911 without looking at why it was done and its effects on the Nation and the World. 911 really did change everything - for the worse - as it was designed to do! [for what is worse for 99% of the World is better for the 1%]

Your speech was excellent and really needed to be said.

Yes, in some ways 9/11 had a bigger, more negative impact on the world than the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK.

[Ty Carpenter]

To my (untrained) eye it appeared to be a collapse. However, watching it live, I somehow knew the South Tower building was going to "collapse" a few seconds in advance. I cannot say if I saw the upper section start to lean sideways, or buckle, or if there was some sort of vibration that I subconsciously perceived, but I said, out loud, "That building's coming down!" and then it did. When the dust cleared I was quite surprised at how little remained; I was expecting a far greater portion of the lower building to remain intact.

I did not see any similar sign of the North Tower start to collapse.

I saw material being ejected to the sides as well, and I have been told (both) that the sideways ejection of steel beams at speed is anomalous, and that it is normal. This is a poor analogy at best, however, when I am breaking a handful of uncooked spaghetti sticks (for my kid's favorite meal) there is an awful lot of small bits of spaghetti in all directions on the kitchen counter.

So, in truth, I cannot say my personal observations were "consistent with collapse" nor "inconsistent." In view of completeness, however, let me say that what I saw of Building 7 going down is consistent with controlled demolition.

When the spaghetti that you break goes flying in all directions, was there not an outside force being applied to the spaghetti therefore causing the directional disbursement of spaghetti? I would suggest that if you hand a handful of spaghetti and punctured the bundle three quarters of the way up (initial plane impact) the spaghetti bundle would not collapse upon itself. And if it did simply perform a gravitational collapse (from spaghetti structure weakening) the spaghetti would not be disbursed in the same violent pattern as if an outside force had been applied.