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A message from John Armstrong
#11
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Scott,


I'm not sure what to make of your post. Below are some notes I copied from Harvey and Lee
that might have some relevance to your research. Does anything below ring a bell with you?
11/21/63 - Shortly after 2:00 am (November 21) CIA asset Marita Lorenz said she saw Frank
Fiorini Sturgis, E. Howard Hunt, Jack Ruby, and "Ozzie" (Lee Oswald) in a Dallas
motel room .

November 22, Miami - In Miami CIA agent Frank (Fiorini) Sturgis (a future Watergate burglar,
along with E. Howard Hunt and Bernard Barker) was busy disseminating rumors which linked
Oswald to Cuba. Sturgis provided the press with reports that Oswald was a communist,
had recently been to Cuba, and had met with Castro.


The A.I.P. (Agencia de lnformaciones Periodisticas), a CIA backed "news ser*-
vice" in Miami, reported that Oswald had worked for Cuban intelligence. The FBI soon
traced this story to Frank (Fiorini) Sturgis and John Martino.46


Nixon - Without Johnson and Kennedy, former Vice-President Richard Nixon finally
managed to become the 37th President of the United States, with no serious opposition.
After taking office Nixon discussed the Warren Report with aides H.R. Haldeman and
Charles Colson and said, "It was the greatest hoax that has ever been perpetuated." 2
The new President soon created a "dirty tricks" department to harass political
opponents that included CIA veterans E. Howard Hunt, Frank Fiorini Sturgis, Bernard
Barker, James McCord, G. Gordon Liddy, and many anti-Castro Cubans from Miami.
Their job was to create situations and fabricate documents to embarrass and humiliate
those who opposed Nixon and his policies. Their targets were the most prominent
democratic leaders of the late 1960's and included Senator Edward Kennedy, and Presi*
dential hopefuls Edmund Muskie and George McGovern.


1962 - By late summer DeMohrenschildt heard through his small circle of friends that
Lee Harvey and Marina Oswald recently arrived from Russia, and he wanted to meet
them. George and his friend Colonel Lawrence Orlof drove to Fort Worth and located
the Oswald's apartment on Mercedes. W hen Marina answered the door the two men
gave the name of George Bouhe as a reference and she invited them in. Oswald soon
arrived home from work and visited with the two men-first in English and then in
Russian. DeMohrenschildt noticed, "Lee spoke it (Russian) very well, with only a slight
accent ..... he had remarkable fluency in Russian."93


Christmas, 1962 - On Christmas Day, Mr. and Mrs. John (Elena) Hall visited the Oswalds at their
apartment on Elsbeth Street.166 Three days later, on Friday, December 28, Mrs. Declan
(Katya) Ford held a post-Christmas party gathering at her house in Dallas. At the request
of Jeanne DeMohrenschildt. who Mrs. Ford had known for 14 years. she invited the
Oswalds to her party.167 This was the third and last time Katya Ford would see either
of the Oswald's.


The party was attended by Lev Aronson, Thomas and Natalie Ray, Mr. and Mrs.
Daniel F. Sullivan, George Bouhe, Anna and Teofil Meller, Tatiana Biggers, Samuel
Ballen, Lydia Dymitruk, Mr. and Mrs. Charles Harris, George and Jeanne
DeMohrenschildt, and Yaeko Okui. Nearly all of these people were either Russian or
married to a former Russian national. George Bouhe remembered, "Late in the evening
George DeMohrenschildt and his wife appeared, accompanied by Lee Harvey and
Marina. I could almost hear a gasp among some of the people who were around me. We
were especially astounded that after having a couple of drinks and without seeing

While many have disregarded Marita's story, no one has discredited her story. I believe that Marita is simply repeating what was told to her by Frank, he said "we killed the president" however, knowing Frank he would have been nowhere near the scene. I do believe Frank was in Dallas on 11/22/1963, and his only involvement was delivering weapons. I also have the only Cuban intelligence on record stating Pedro Diaz Lanz's involvement, but no other name was mentioned in the report. I know there were monthly meetings held in Jamaica, and it was this group of Castro's intelligence who has identified Pedro, I also have their report.

Now, I do believe Frank was involved, but as I said, delivering weapons only. Frank was in Dallas five months prior to Kennedy's assassination when he said he was never in Dallas. I have a report that discloses his reason for being in Dallas for Pedro Diaz Lanz as he was considering buying airplanes when there were more than enough planes in Miami, and at Homestead AFB where Diaz parked his plane.

I know it was Oswald who was in Miami sometime during December of 1962 and up until January of 1963, this is the only time any three letter agency had stopped reporting on Oswald. The question would be why? The CIA and the FBI are very meticulous in reporting on Oswald, and at anytime during Oswald's investigations there was never that wide of a window between reports. I can say with certainly that when Oswald sent his brother a postcard on January 10, 1963 and indicated he was "out-of-town for awhile" meant he was not in Dallas. If he wasn't in Dallas, Mexico or New Orleans the only other place Oswald could be was Miami. He did not return to New Orleans or this would have been reported after having just left from New Orleans after having that encounter with members of CRC and was thrown in jail, there is no indication that Oswald went back to New Orleans.

Frank Bartes later becomes head of CRC after Sergio Smith was relived of his position from Miami Headquarters because of this fight with Oswald, Smith allowed that to control his emotions. Bartes later encounters Oswald and this was just after the scuffle that broke out. A CRC meeting is held at their office along with members of DRE. Bartes is later photographed in the Op40 pic of Barry and the Boys.

There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Frank Sturgis was in Dallas on the day of Kennedy's assassination, there is no doubt in my mind that Oswald, the real Lee H. Oswald was in Miami sometime between December 1962 and January 9th 1963 wanting to infiltrate or become a member of an anti-Castro group, but no one excepted him.
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And yes, I have reason to believe, not just believe, but due to the evidence my father had. I know, Barker and Hunt was also in on it.
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#13
Quote:no one excepted him.

Perhaps, it was for this reason no one reported on Oswald, imagine how everyone would have had a field day with a report of Oswald in Miami, so the best thing to do is leave the report out or do not release the report.
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#14
During this time Frank Strugis was also involved with members of DRE.
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#15
Frank Sturgis was an acquaintance of Jose Lanusa, Lanusa knew Lee H. Oswald, Lanusa was involved in DRE, Frank was involved in DRE, both Frank and Lanusa were living in Miami, Oswald went to Miami. In the end, Oswald got screwed.
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#16
The FBI would then quickly publish reports from the Sun Sentinel, their stories by Jerry Buchanan and Sturgis' would become quickly discredited by the FBI in their report, Frank said that Jerry had "miss-quoted" him, meaning Frank did not want to be dragged into a story that could otherwise later incriminate him, so, he blamed Oswald as being a Castro agent. They wanted war. In my update I expose all this and the reason for Watergate, I also name all the senators they were planning on setting up including all their break-ins to dig up dirt solely to "bribe" these government officials in order to finance another run into Cuba. My up-date explains it step by step.
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#17
Scott, with all due respect why did you just hijack this thread? This isn't about you.
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#18
Michael Cross Wrote:Scott, with all due respect why did you just hijack this thread? This isn't about you.


Michael, with due do respect, (I said doo-doo, lol...) but I was talking to Jim not you, if you have some worth contributing to a post by all means, otherwise pay attention.
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Scott Kaiser Wrote:
Michael Cross Wrote:Scott, with all due respect why did you just hijack this thread? This isn't about you.


Michael, with due do respect, (I said doo-doo, lol...) but I was talking to Jim not you, if you have some worth contributing to a post by all means, otherwise pay attention.


For someone not very knowledgeable about this case you are very arrogant and love to give orders.
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#20
We can all get on each other's nerves from time to time, but I'm always inclined to cut Scott a little slack. If what he says is true, and I see no reason to believe it isn't, his father was in contact with several of the key players active in JFK's assassination as well as Watergate, and more.


Scott believes Frank Sturgis/Fiorini killed his father, and if so, that certainly fits with JA's and many others' research indicating Sturgis was a stone cold killer. John believes many of the suspicious deaths around the time of the assassination, the WC and the HSCA were carried out by Sturgis. There is a picture somewhere of the SOB himself with his boot on a bunch of dead bodies looking pretty pleased with himself.


When Marita Lorenz testified that she had seen "Lee Harvey Oswald" in the South Florida Everglades training with anti-Castro operatives, the HSCA's Fithian threatened her with a charge of perjury--and she still stuck to her story. She claimed CIA photographer Alex Rorke had taken pictures of Oswald in the camps, and of course, the HSCA made no effort I'm aware of to find them.
HarveyandLee.net

Chief Justice Earl Warren: "Full disclosure was not possible for reasons of national security." – 1964
CIA accountant James B. Wilcott: Oswald received "a full-time salary for agent work for doing CIA operational work." – 1978
HSCA counsel Robert Tanenbaum: “Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee of the CIA and the FBI.” – 1996
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