Brexit and British Member Of Parliament Murdered

[Paul Rigby]

Peter Hitchens has written a corker of an article on the entire mess that basically calls for a new party to form so the other outdated parties can just fuck off and die. And since they only ever represent themselves that what they should do. HERE.

The UK, in whatever shape it ends up, cannot afford a nuclear deterrent and shouldn't have one anyway. What's the point when it requires launch keys that are held by America. We can't launch a sparrow without their approval and say so, therefore it's just for show and to make various people wealthy.

We're a tiny nation and I would much prefer it if we went the way of Iceland which is now truly democratic. The UK needs now to scale back a lot and stop pretending to be something it's not and face the realities that are pressing against the window. It needs to unsubscribe from the Five Eyes in order to diminish and then cease US control over our political elite and military and intelligence apparatus and, instead, we should start building trading bridges with whoever we can on an equitable and fair - and most of all - on an open and transparent basis. The whole "we are a great nation" bollocks is 100 years past and has only be kept alive like a revenant from regular infusions of the nations ever diminishing treasure. In the last analysis it has only ever been used to sustain the egos of the political and Mandarin class so they can swan around thinking they have big, rather than tiny male appendages.

Let the City bankers bugger off to Berlin and explode on Bratwurst. All they do is manipulate No. 10 and Parliament and drain the nation resources whenever they need rescuing anyway.

Vote Guyatt!

[Paul Rigby]

Perhaps it was too early to make that Hadrian's Wall joke. I did not mean to offend. I should have read my history more carefully. "Britain" was the name coined after Scotland and England joined. So, I am supposing that if Scotland leaves, it will be "England" once again..?"

Good grief, Drew, it would take a heck of a lot more than that minor confusion to offend the English or the Scots. Thick-skinned isn't in it! Positively pachydermous, the lot of us.

[Paul Rigby]

The entire UK elites seem to be imploding - I don't think either side was really prepared for this result.........::

Not just the UK, Peter, this is rippling, rightly, far beyond our shores. Even the CIA's most important European asset is now at serious risk:

Die Welt Calls For Merkel's Resignation, Slams "EU's Gravedigger"

by Tyler Durden
Jun 26, 2016 1:47 PM

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-26...ravedigger

"Britain Votes Merkel Out Of Office, Too" is the astonishing headline from Germany's 3rd largest newspaper Die Welt. Pinning the blame for The Brits' vote, the op-ed lambasts The EU's political failure, "The British do not leave the EU as narrow-minded snobs that had not meant it to happen that way, but as proud democrats that no longer wanted to put up with the snags and political failures of the EU;" and puts the blame squarely on the sagging shoulders of Angela Merkel (and her solo attempts at refugee policy)... "voters in Britain basically also voted Angela Merkel out of office. Before she becomes the EU's gravedigger for good, she should follow David Cameron's example."

Via Die Welt,

Britain leaves the EU because a majority no longer wants to tolerate the union's political failure. One key factor contributing to that is the German chancellor's solo attempts in the refugee policy.

The exit of the British marks the beginning of a new era, perhaps less so for Britain, which never really felt at home in the EU, rather than for the rest of Europe. Eventually, citizens between Scotland and the White Cliffs of Dover did not only vote David Cameron out of office, but also the hesitant and narrow-minded leaders in the EU whose arguments did not persuade a majority. Their policy of stubbornly sitting it all out has also failed.

What has until now been the biggest democratic field test on membership in what used to be an exclusive club called EU has demonstrated three things: first, despite undisputable merits, the EU in its current state is simply incapable of mustering majority support. As a result, second, the institutions simply cannot muddle along, out of touch with reality as they are, as they have done so far. And third, the current leaders have been unable to halt the obvious erosion of the biggest political project of the day. Structural problems and crises have apparently been too much for the professional troubleshooters in the compromise factory called EU.

What the EU would actually need now is stringent reforms: tightening decision-making processes, simplifying the tangled institutions, ending the undemocratic procedures by strengthening the European Parliament, and, above all ending the selfish wheeling and dealing in the European capitals that, in most cases, leads to leaving Brussels holding the bag. Yet how is that supposed to be done? How can one calmly go about refurbishing a wrecked home that some of its residents have just left? And how does the administration in Brussels, involved as it will be over the next few months in customarily tedious and obscure exit negotiations, intend to prevent a domino effect?

The British do not leave the EU as narrow-minded snobs that had not meant it to happen that way, but as proud democrats that no longer wanted to put up with the snags and political failures of the EU. It was not them that divided the country into supporters and opponents, beneficiaries and losers, those preferring to live in the past and those looking ahead, nationalists and cosmopolitans. That was all the making of the EU itself. That same institution that accepted the Nobel Prize as a unique peace project has dramatically lost support by allowing chaos to reign over the euro and tolerating unregulated immigration far beyond Britain. Before the British said bye-bye, lots of other places were ablaze as well. The triumph of the neo-nationalists, Orban in Hungary and Kaczynski in Poland, as well as the advance of the leftwing populists of Syriza in Greece, the Five Stars in Italy, and Podemos in Spain have demonstrated how moribund Europe's disagreeing union has long since become. The Brexit is not a dress rehearsal that, when failing, can still be salvaged with a few repairs by the actors involved.

If we are unlucky, the historic drama is already in its final act. On closer examination, the Brexit is just the logical consequence of the EU constitution that failed in referendums in the Netherlands and France in 2005 already. After that, the intricate institutions rumbled on more or less without control and leadership while policymakers ignored to cut the most ambiguous projects of state sovereignty -- Schengen and the euro -- down to size.

Europe has neglected its citizens -- not the other way round. When those citizens can watch the EU, the spin-off and replacement of the traditional nations, doing badly on a daily basis, its leaders should not be surprised when an increasing number of people prefer the somehow functioning original to the shaky innovation. This is the real reason, rather than stupidity and backwardness, that made nationalism, already on the way out, fashionable again in the middle of Europe. The narrow outcome, which would have been impossible one year ago, also shows clearly that Angela Merkel's laissez-faire in the refugee crisis has ruined David Cameron's political career -- and estranged Britain from the EU for good. It was the pictures of the Balkans and the excesses of Cologne, which UKIP [United Kingdom Independence Party] leader Farage loved to refer to with relish, that decided the Brexit.

There are a number of precedents. For some 10 years or so, the EU has no longer been working properly, because it has bound together countries economically and politically that are simply not suited to one another. The fabulous career of Alexis Tsipras from Trotskyite nutcase to prime minister of a bankrupt euro-zone country is due to the failure of the single currency in Greece. Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann was the first, but not the last, head of government falling victim to the refugee crisis. France, Europe's central nation, has been governed for months in a state of national emergency because Islamist bombers were able to also cross the open borders in the Balkans and attack the core of Europe's liberal way of life. There is quite a lot that would allow the situation to be described as a multiple systemic crisis.

Is it a surprise then, when in view of such failure individual EU member states delegate responsibility for their immigration policy to tiny Macedonia and close the Schengen borders at will? Is it a surprise when a whole generation of hopeful young people in Southern Europe have given up on the EU, when the resolution of the euro crisis is deferred again and again for the sole benefit of the banks -- in contravention of all European rules? Grit your teeth and get over with it has long since ceased to be an option, because that stupid tactic has helped the EU go to the wall in Britain.

At the moment, and that says it all, the European Union is only popular and highly regarded in the countries in Eastern Europe. Where people are in fear of Putin's expansionist policy such as in the Baltic states, where billions from Brussels are pumped into infrastructure and agriculture such as in Poland, or where the domestic political elite is much more corrupt and undemocratic than in the EU such as in Romania or Bulgaria -- there, and unfortunately only there, people are eager to join the rundown golf club.

Yet a European Union that will routinely hold membership negotiations with Kosovo, Albania, or semi-dictatorship Turkey will only stagger into collapse. Citizens will simply not play along. And the next referendums could be on the doorstep in core Europe, with neo-nationalists such as Geert Wilders in the Netherlands and Marine Le Pen in France loudly demanding to let their people democratically vote on membership in the EU. When the benefits of a deal called EU are not eventually felt in the minds and pocketbooks of all citizens, it is unmarketable as a model for the future.

At the moment, the most powerful European, Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, tries his hand at being crisis manager of the sorrowful countenance. As Luxembourg's prime minister, he has been diligently involved in dismantling the EU with elaborate tax tricks at the expense of the neighbours. It is an irony of history that Cameron, a democrat, steps down while bureaucrat Juncker could be allowed to slouch over his desk and even lead the humiliating exit talks. If the EU eventually wants to present itself as a democracy, the European Parliament must remove Juncker. Tightening and resuscitating the entire project must be in the hands of younger, changed leaders. If not now, when?

The European disaster in Britain, which - notwithstanding its bitter aftertaste - is a feast day of popular sovereignty, also puts a woman at the centre that has been highly praised by the media and the elites and that many already regarded as Europe's unofficial chancellor. Angela Merkel, together with her finance minister, made the euro crisis in Greece a matter for Berlin to settle. By making the breach of the rules -- the financing of governments -- a permanent state of affairs, she bought time and damaged the sensitive European currency project for good without structurally resolving the malaise in the Mediterranean countries. And when Angela Merkel opened the borders in the migration crisis entirely on her own only to negotiate a dubious deal with Turkish ruler Erdogan also on her own, she demonstrated to citizens what she thinks of the EU and its institutions: very, very little. For the head of a party in charge of the European legacy of Konrad Adenauer and Helmut Kohl, this is a confession of political bankruptcy. On Thursday [23 June], voters in Britain basically also voted Angela Merkel out of office. Before she becomes the EU's gravedigger for good, she should follow David Cameron's example.

[Paul Rigby]

As the Tory Government and Party implode, Labour's Blairite tendency has turned its guns on the real main enemy - Jeremy Corbyn. Here's Craig Murray on why now:

It's Still the Iraq War, Stupid.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/...ar-stupid/

No rational person could blame Jeremy Corbyn for Brexit. So why are the Blairites moving against Corbyn now, with such precipitate haste?

The answer is the Chilcot Report. It is only a fortnight away, and though its form will be concealed by thick layers of establishment whitewash, the basic contours of Blair's lies will still be visible beneath. Corbyn had deferred to Blairite pressure not to apologise on behalf of the Labour Party for the Iraq War until Chilcot is published.

For the Labour Right, the moment when Corbyn as Labour leader stands up in parliament and condemns Blair over Iraq, is going to be as traumatic as it was for the hardliners of the Soviet Communist Party when Khruschev denounced the crimes of Stalin. It would also destroy Blair's carefully planned post-Chilcot PR strategy. It is essential to the Blairites that when Chilcot is debated in parliament in two weeks time, Jeremy Corbyn is not in place as Labour leader to speak in the debate. The Blairite plan is therefore for the parliamentary party to depose him as parliamentary leader and get speaker John Bercow to acknowledge someone else in that fictional position in time for the Chilcot debate, with Corbyn remaining leader in the country but with no parliamentary status.

Yes, they are that nuts.

If the fault line for the Tories is Europe, for Labour it is the Middle East. Those opposing Corbyn are defined by their enthusiasm for bombing campaigns that kill Muslim children. And not only by the UK. Both of the first two to go, Hilary Benn and Heidi Alexander, are hardline supporters of Israel.

This was Benn the week before his celebrated advocacy of bombing Syria:

Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn told a Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) lunch yesterday that relations with Israel must be based on cooperation and rejected attempts to isolate the country.
Addressing senior party figures in Westminster, Benn praised Israel for its "progressive spirit, vibrant democracy, strong welfare state, thriving free press and independent judiciary." He also called Israel "an economic giant, a high-tech centre, second only to the United States. A land of innovation and entrepreneurship, venture capital and graduates, private and public enterprise."

Consequently, said Benn, "Our future relations must be built on cooperation and engagement, not isolation of Israel. We must take on those who seek to delegitimise the state of Israel or question its right to exist."
Heidi Alexander actually signed, as a 2015 parliamentary candidate, the "We Believe in Israel" charter, the provisions of which state there must be no boycotts of Israel, and Israel must not be described as an apartheid state.

This fault line is very well defined. The manufactured row about "anti-Semitism" in the Labour Party shows exactly the same split. In my researches, 100% of those who have promoted accusations of anti-Semitism were supporters of the Iraq War and/or had demonstrable links to professional pro-Israel lobby groups. 100% of those accused of anti-Semitism were active opponents of the Iraq War. Never underestimate the Blairite fury at being shown not just to be liars but to be wrong. Iraq is their Achilles heel and they are extremely touchy about it.

No rational person would believe Brexit was Jeremy Corbyn's fault. No rational person would believe that now is a good moment for the Labour Party to tear itself apart. Extraordinarily, the timing is determined by Chilcot.

[Paul Rigby]

As the Tory Government and Party implode, Labour's Blairite tendency has turned its guns on the real main enemy - Jeremy Corbyn. Here's Craig Murray on why now:

It's Still the Iraq War, Stupid.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/...ar-stupid/

No rational person could blame Jeremy Corbyn for Brexit. So why are the Blairites moving against Corbyn now, with such precipitate haste?

The answer is the Chilcot Report. It is only a fortnight away, and though its form will be concealed by thick layers of establishment whitewash, the basic contours of Blair's lies will still be visible beneath. Corbyn had deferred to Blairite pressure not to apologise on behalf of the Labour Party for the Iraq War until Chilcot is published.

For the Labour Right, the moment when Corbyn as Labour leader stands up in parliament and condemns Blair over Iraq, is going to be as traumatic as it was for the hardliners of the Soviet Communist Party when Khruschev denounced the crimes of Stalin. It would also destroy Blair's carefully planned post-Chilcot PR strategy. It is essential to the Blairites that when Chilcot is debated in parliament in two weeks time, Jeremy Corbyn is not in place as Labour leader to speak in the debate. The Blairite plan is therefore for the parliamentary party to depose him as parliamentary leader and get speaker John Bercow to acknowledge someone else in that fictional position in time for the Chilcot debate, with Corbyn remaining leader in the country but with no parliamentary status.

Yes, they are that nuts.

If the fault line for the Tories is Europe, for Labour it is the Middle East. Those opposing Corbyn are defined by their enthusiasm for bombing campaigns that kill Muslim children. And not only by the UK. Both of the first two to go, Hilary Benn and Heidi Alexander, are hardline supporters of Israel.

This was Benn the week before his celebrated advocacy of bombing Syria:

Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn told a Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) lunch yesterday that relations with Israel must be based on cooperation and rejected attempts to isolate the country.
Addressing senior party figures in Westminster, Benn praised Israel for its "progressive spirit, vibrant democracy, strong welfare state, thriving free press and independent judiciary." He also called Israel "an economic giant, a high-tech centre, second only to the United States. A land of innovation and entrepreneurship, venture capital and graduates, private and public enterprise."

Consequently, said Benn, "Our future relations must be built on cooperation and engagement, not isolation of Israel. We must take on those who seek to delegitimise the state of Israel or question its right to exist."
Heidi Alexander actually signed, as a 2015 parliamentary candidate, the "We Believe in Israel" charter, the provisions of which state there must be no boycotts of Israel, and Israel must not be described as an apartheid state.

This fault line is very well defined. The manufactured row about "anti-Semitism" in the Labour Party shows exactly the same split. In my researches, 100% of those who have promoted accusations of anti-Semitism were supporters of the Iraq War and/or had demonstrable links to professional pro-Israel lobby groups. 100% of those accused of anti-Semitism were active opponents of the Iraq War. Never underestimate the Blairite fury at being shown not just to be liars but to be wrong. Iraq is their Achilles heel and they are extremely touchy about it.

No rational person would believe Brexit was Jeremy Corbyn's fault. No rational person would believe that now is a good moment for the Labour Party to tear itself apart. Extraordinarily, the timing is determined by Chilcot.

Jeremy Corbyn 'still prepared to call for Tony Blair war crimes investigation'

The leader is said to stand by comments made during the Labour leadership contest

Jon Stone @joncstone Monday 23 May 2016

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...42926.html

Jeremy Corbyn is prepared to call for an investigation into Tony Blair for alleged war crimes during the Iraq War, according to reports.

The Chilcot Inquiry into conflict will be released on 6 July this year after years of analysing evidence about how the Government acted in the run-up to and during the conflict.

During the Labour leadership election Mr Corbyn said he was convinced the Iraq War was illegal and that anyone who had committed a crime should be put on trial.

"If [Tony Blair has] committed a war crime, yes. Everyone who's committed a war crime should be [charged]," he said.

"I think it was an illegal war, I'm confident about that, indeed Kofi Annan confirmed it was an illegal war, and therefore he has to explain to that.

"Is he going to be tried for it, I don't know. Could he be tried for it? Possibly."

The Daily Telegraph newspaper says a Labour spokesperson confirmed over the weekend that Mr Corbyn stands by his views and will not row back from them.

The spokesperson said: "We look forward to the release of the Chilcot report into the Iraq War and reading the evidence he has uncovered."

The statement comes amid reports in the Sunday Times that Mr Blair, as well as former foreign secretary Jack Straw, are set to be "savaged" in the Chilcot Report.

Others rumoured to be in for criticism include certain high-ranking military figures.

[Lauren Johnson]

I predict Brexit will be made to disappear -- somehow. Reminds me of Antonini's film: Blow-Up.

[David Guyatt]

Peter Hitchens has written a corker of an article on the entire mess that basically calls for a new party to form so the other outdated parties can just fuck off and die. And since they only ever represent themselves that what they should do. HERE.

The UK, in whatever shape it ends up, cannot afford a nuclear deterrent and shouldn't have one anyway. What's the point when it requires launch keys that are held by America. We can't launch a sparrow without their approval and say so, therefore it's just for show and to make various people wealthy.

We're a tiny nation and I would much prefer it if we went the way of Iceland which is now truly democratic. The UK needs now to scale back a lot and stop pretending to be something it's not and face the realities that are pressing against the window. It needs to unsubscribe from the Five Eyes in order to diminish and then cease US control over our political elite and military and intelligence apparatus and, instead, we should start building trading bridges with whoever we can on an equitable and fair - and most of all - on an open and transparent basis. The whole "we are a great nation" bollocks is 100 years past and has only be kept alive like a revenant from regular infusions of the nations ever diminishing treasure. In the last analysis it has only ever been used to sustain the egos of the political and Mandarin class so they can swan around thinking they have big, rather than tiny male appendages.

Let the City bankers bugger off to Berlin and explode on Bratwurst. All they do is manipulate No. 10 and Parliament and drain the nation resources whenever they need rescuing anyway.

Vote Guyatt!

Hahaha. My coffers will need to be filled before I'm able to stand. Come to think of it, my stomach will need to be pumped clear of wine before I can stand...

[David Guyatt]

Here's what's likely to happen concerning Brexit. It's not going to be allowed. The US and NATO have alternative plans - democracy is forbidden:

The White House and NATO prepare the sabotage of Brexit

VOLTAIRE NETWORK | 25 JUNE 2016 FRANÇAIS ESPAÑOL ITALIANO عربي DEUTSCH

Leaving the European Union, the UK ends its "special relationship" with the United States. But London is also a member of the agreement of the "Five Eyes" from the Atlantic Charter and co-founder of NATO (the British share all information concerning the Stay Behind network). Releasing the UK therefore means the collapse of the entire Anglo-Saxon system of world domination.The National Security Council of the United States has developed a plan to secure the UK to Atlantic structures. It was decided to do everything to prevent the Downing Street appointment of the Conservative Brexit leader, Boris Johnson, and to promote a "consensus" personality able to "reconcile" the British. This personality would negotiate the terms of the exit from the European Union. For its part, the Union would propose to replace the current agreements with almost identical provisions. Following this process, the United Kingdom would have lost his seat on the European Council, but would remain de facto in the Common Market.President Obama has appointed the German Chancellor Angela Merkel to conduct operations within the EU and George Osborne, the current number two of the Government to organize the 'consensus' in the UK. Already, Prime Minister David Cameron has refused to resign before the US presidential election, while the Scottish Executive and the European press highlight the risk of secession to justify the call for a "consensus personality. "The European Council was convened by the President of the Union, Donald Tusk, June 29, in the presence of the Secretary General of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg.

Voltaire

Who will take to US coin and be the "consensus personality" I wonder? Georgie porgy perhaps?

[Drew Phipps]

What a curious turn of phrase; devoid of gender, humanity... Can you just pop down to the greengrocers and pick one up?

[Tracy Riddle]

Only comedians can tell the truth -