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Coup Underway in Turkey
#81
Erdogan has also revoked 3,212 ham radio licenses. So HF radio frequency there is now silent.
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#82
Magda Hassan Wrote:Erdogan has also revoked 3,212 ham radio licenses. So HF radio frequency there is now silent.

At the end of http://yaesuft817.com/wp/turkey-gouverne...-licenses/
they write:
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We're happy to confirm that this news has been disproved we apologise for the false information given but apparently local hams from Istanbul city were interdicted from transmitting until yesterday
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So maybe it is not a permanent revocation of all licenses.
Still scary.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#83
Thanks for that Carsten. Yeah, still scary.

Is there still no travel out for people? I have a friend there. She let every one know she was okay just before social media was blocked. Then later after the coup again contacted us to let us know the were okay. But now I can't contact her and don't get any response.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#84
Magda Hassan Wrote:Thanks for that Carsten. Yeah, still scary.

Is there still no travel out for people? I have a friend there. She let every one know she was okay just before social media was blocked. Then later after the coup again contacted us to let us know the were okay. But now I can't contact her and don't get any response.


Information on this seems a little difficult to get [the State of Emergency only went into effect this morning]...but it seems social media is still 'on', but many are afraid to use it just now...they know everything is being watched - and everyone......

It seems however that during the 'coup' most social media were inaccessible or difficult to access [for most]...not for Erdogan...

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185Turkey may be blocking or slowing access to social media networks amid an attempted military coup, although there are conflicting reports emerging from a country that's been described as a "bastion of internet censorship" by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Turkey Blocks, an organization that monitors internet censorship in the country, tweeted on Friday evening that Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube were being blocked, but that Vimeo and Instagram were still functioning.
"Our data indicated a 2 hour period of social media throttling but no evidence of a full internet blackout in #Turkey," the group subsequentlytweeted. Facebook and Twitter users confirmed the service had been inaccessible but had since returned, albeit slowly.
Internet censorship in Turkey typically occurs when the government orders internet service providers to block access to certain domains, according to Deji Olukotun of Access Now, a digital rights advocacy group. Olukotun confirmed to the Guardian that social media sites have been subject to "intentional disruptions". He added that technologists could distinguish between outages due to such "manipulation" and outages due to a surges in use that may occur during crises.
Gustaf Björksten, chief technologist for Access Now, cautioned that his organization did not yet have "conclusive results" or proof of government censorship.
"As governments and the carriers get more skilled at implementing network interference, they move toward tactics that are more difficult to prove ... the picture in Turkey right now is far from clear to us," he said.
"We have no reason to think we've been fully blocked in #Turkey, but we suspect there is an intentional slowing of our traffic in country," Twitter said via its @policy account.
A spokesperson for YouTube denied that its service had been impacted, stating: "We are aware of reports that YouTube is down in Turkey, however, systems seem to be functioning normally."
Analysis Turkey coup attempt could destabilize ally in region reeling from terrorism

Facebook declined to comment, but it is understood that there may have been some brief outages.
Some users in Turkey appear to be accessing Facebook Live and Twitter, but it is possible they are using virtual private networks (VPNs) to get around a government-imposed block.
Other social networks appear to be unaffected, so far. Spokespeople for Periscope, the livestreaming video app owned by Twitter, and WhatsApp, a messaging app owned by Facebook, said their services were live.
Turkey has a long history of internet censorship, including three earlier blockages in 2016 alone, according to the digital rights advocacy group Access Now. The most recent outage occurred following the terrorist attack on Ataturk Airport in Istanbul.
"Turkey spent years building up its filtering capacity to block specific sites and content, as well as amending its internet law to increase government's control over content online," said Peter Micek, global policy and legal counsel at Access Now. "Now, Turkey blocks and throttles social media wholesale when accurate information is needed most after terror attacks, during corruption scandals, and now, apparently, military coups."
In 2007, Turkey passed an internet censorship law that allows the government to ban or block websites. The law was putatively aimed at child abuse images, but internet freedom activists point out that the controls have been used in moments of political unrest or to censor political speech.

In 2014, Turkey blocked access to Twitter andYouTube following the leak of politically damaging recordings. In 2015, a Turkish court ordered temporary bans of YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook over the publication of photographs of a kidnapping.
Turkish president Recep Tayyip ErdoÄŸan is an outspoken critic of social media. In 2013, he described Twitter as a "menace to society". "I am increasingly against the internet every day," ErdoÄŸan told a delegation from the Committee to Protect Journalism in October 2014.
Ironically, ErdoÄŸan who is out of the capital Istanbul on vacation turned to social media as the coup unfolded, making a statement on Twitter and speaking to national TV through FaceTime on his iPhone.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#85
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#86
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#87
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Information on this seems a little difficult to get [the State of Emergency only went into effect this morning]...but it seems social media is still 'on', but many are afraid to use it just now...they know everything is being watched - and everyone......

Horrifying. But enough of America, what's going on Turkey?
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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#88
Turkey suspends its participation in European Convention on Human Rights which it had signed......:Violin:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#89
Paul Rigby Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Information on this seems a little difficult to get [the State of Emergency only went into effect this morning]...but it seems social media is still 'on', but many are afraid to use it just now...they know everything is being watched - and everyone......

Horrifying. But enough of America, what's going on Turkey?

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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#90
I heard a report on NPR that as many as 60,000 government workers had been fired from their jobs.
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