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Coup Underway in Turkey
From Colonel Cassad:

Compromised meeting

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/288...tml#cutid1

Quote:Turkey has released a screenshot from a video surveillance camera, which depicts a meeting the day before the attempted coup between US Ambassador John Bass and one of the leaders of the putschists:

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The US ambassador claimed that Washington played no role in the Istanbul insurrection: "The US administration would have informed Ankara of coup plotting if it had possessed such information." Ambassador John Bass added that he was outraged by accusations against his country.

The attempted military coup in Turkey was made ​​on the night of July 16. The President of Turkey insisted the coup had followed "a script written from abroad."

In the photo, we see Ambassador John Bass and a colonel near the Cengelkoy cafe in Istanbul on the morning of July 14th. Bass claims he arrived in Istanbul only on July 15 and appeared in the embassy complex at 2130hrs, when the coup has already begun .

Thus, the Turks caught the US ambassador in an outright lie.

In response, the Americans revised their version and now admit that on 14 July Bass met the Turkish Minister of Culture, and the country's Ombudsman; but nevertheless declared the photo a fake, suggesting that the Turkish secret services, who are almost certainly behind the leak, fabricated the photograph.

At the same time, the United States officially continued to reject the Turkish accusations against the State Department and the CIA, both of which, according to Erdogan and his circle, were behind the coup. We await with interest the continuation of this story, as Erdogan is plainly not relenting in his accusations against the United States, although it is possible, of course, that all of this is just another game for the court of public opinion.


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"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

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Paul Rigby Wrote:From Colonel Cassad:

Compromised meeting

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/288...tml#cutid1

Quote:Turkey has released a screenshot from a video surveillance camera, which depicts a meeting the day before the attempted coup between US Ambassador John Bass and one of the leaders of the putschists:

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The US ambassador claimed that Washington played no role in the Istanbul insurrection: "The US administration would have informed Ankara of coup plotting if it had possessed such information." Ambassador John Bass added that he was outraged by accusations against his country.

The attempted military coup in Turkey was made ​​on the night of July 16. The President of Turkey insisted the coup had followed "a script written from abroad."

In the photo, we see Ambassador John Bass and a colonel near the Cengelkoy cafe in Istanbul on the morning of July 14th. Bass claims he arrived in Istanbul only on July 15 and appeared in the embassy complex at 2130hrs, when the coup has already begun .

Thus, the Turks caught the US ambassador in an outright lie.

In response, the Americans revised their version and now admit that on 14 July Bass met the Turkish Minister of Culture, and the country's Ombudsman; but nevertheless declared the photo a fake, suggesting that the Turkish secret services, who are almost certainly behind the leak, fabricated the photograph.

At the same time, the United States officially continued to reject the Turkish accusations against the State Department and the CIA, both of which, according to Erdogan and his circle, were behind the coup. We await with interest the continuation of this story, as Erdogan is plainly not relenting in his accusations against the United States, although it is possible, of course, that all of this is just another game for the court of public opinion.

A few additional details in this version of essentially the same piece here: http://katehon.com/news/us-ambassador-me...y-upheaval

Quote:The new evidence of the US participation in the coup attempt in Turkey emerged. Greek press published a photo made a day before the coup. It shows the US ambassador in Turkey John Basse together with the Turkish senior officer, who looks like one of the leaders of the coup Col. Ali Yazıcı (former military adviser to President Erdogan). They had a private meeting in Cengelkoy café the day before the coup.

The image demonstrates the US involvement in the coup and its close ties with a part of Turkish army, before the upheaval. Recall, that physical elimination of Erdogan was one of the goals of the coup attempt.

The next move by the Turkish government will be to ask the expulsion of the American ambassador from the country which will cause further disruption to the US and trigger process of Turkey leaving the NATO.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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I saw that the US State Dept requested all family members of US personnel there leave. This was a nearly 2 weeks ago.
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Turkey: Yet Another CIA Operation Uncovered by Journalists

http://journal-neo.org/2016/08/06/turkey...urnalists/

Martin Berger

6 August 2016

Quote:Non-corporate media sources have recently uncovered yet another CIA operation that shocks even experienced analysts because of Washington's blatant confidence that its criminal actions in different regions of the world will go unnoticed and unpunished. We see yet again that in order to secure its foreign interests along with the interests of US military contractors, the White House is demanding the CIA to constantly develop new covert operations aimed at overthrowing political figures who object to Washington's interests upon the international scene.

One should not be surprised if tomorrow a CIA agent appears, demanding obedience to American dictates. If only the international community would rally against such malicious practices, demanding the White House and the CIA to answer for their actions in front of an international tribunal.

According to the Turkish newspaper Yeni Safak Daily, the failed military coup in Turkey was staged by the White House. The newspaper is providing details regarding who exactly was behind the preparations of this bloody event, noting that due to rapidly deteriorating relations between the Obama administration and Turkish leader Tayyip Erdogan, Washington launched an operation to create preconditions for the toppling of the Turkish president.

It's noted that the massive propaganda war against Erdogan coupled with the extensive amount of pressure that was put on German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other European politicians who are heavily influenced by Washington to prevent Turkey's accession to the EU, despite a string of encouraging promises that have been fed to Ankara for the last three decades, was but the first step. This push was followed by the demand of former US ambassadors who published a former appeal to Tayyip Erdogan in the White House mouthpiece The Washington Post, demanding Erdogan to step down immediately.

The new phase of confrontation between Ankara and Washington started last April, once Turkish officials threatened to ban US military personnel from using the Incirlik military base. Yet, the main reason behind the failed military coup that was prepared in much haste, was rapprochement between Ankara and Moscow that was perceived by the White House as a major threat to US domination in the Middle East.

According to a recent journalistic investigation, US intelligence services spent over 2 billion dollars on the preparations of the failed military in Turkey. The mastermind behind the coup, we are being told, is the former commander of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan, General John F. Campbell. He was behind the planning of this operation and instructing Turkish military officers at the Incirlik military base. It's been reported that this American General acted under the direct supervision of the CIA and in close contact with the movement of the self-exiled cleric Fethullah Gülen, who resides in Pennsylvania. The 2 billion dollars that Washington decided to spent on the coup was transferred to Campbell via Nigerian bank UBA. This sum was used to bribe Turkish officers who decided to participate in the failed coup attempt.

It's believed that Campbell led the preparations for the operation in Turkey for eight and a half months. We are being told that the CIA established a special team with the code name of "Safari" to operate the coup plot process and rehearse all steps of the operation. According to Turkish journalists, Henri Bakrey was the CIA's "supervisor on the spot" in Turkey, this former CIA agent now occupies the position of the Director of the Middle East program at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.

It's now known that Henri Bakrey was holding meetings in Istanbul on July 15 and 16 in the lounge of the ÃŽle de Princes Hotel. Barkey was so confident that the outcome of the CIA coup would be successful that he even demanded the administration of the hotel to assist him in making a public statement on July 16 to Western media sources like the CNN, NBC and Voice of America.

Turkish journalists report that the military coup was not simply aimed at toppling the sitting Turkish leader and replacing him with a more convenient pro-US candidate, but to obtain an additional military base within Turkish territory to strengthen its subversive activities against Syria, Iran and Russia.

So, it looks like it's high time to hold the United States and the CIA accountable for the ongoing meddling in the sovereign affairs of other states, which has now led to the spread of destructive chaos and destabilisations across a number of regions.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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More on the coup:

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Washington's Strategic Defeat: Erdogan Trumps Gulenist Coup

By Prof. James Petras
Global Research, August 08, 2016


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For the past decade, the US intelligence agencies operating in Turkey have worked closely with the increasingly influential parallel government of Fethullah Gulen. Their approach to power was, until recently, a permeationist strategy, of covertly taking over political, economic, administrative, judicial, media, military and cultural positions gradually without resort to elections or military coups. They adopted flexible tactics, supporting and shedding different allies to eliminate rivals.
In 2010 in support of Erdogan, they played a major role in arresting and purging 300 Kemalist military officials. Subsequently the Gulenists moved to prosecute and weaken the Erdogan regime via revelations of family corruption uncovered by their intelligence officials and publicized by its mass media outlets.
The Gulenists shared several important policies with Washington which favored "the convergence" that led up to the July 15, 2016 coup.
The Gulenists backed US-Israeli policies in the Middle East; opposed the independent' and erratic power projections of Erdogan; favored pro-Western free market policies; accepted US relations with the Kurds; rejected any accommodation with the Russians.
In other words, the Gulenists were far more reliable, dependent and subject to the dictates of EU-NATO-US policy throughout the Middle East than the Erdogan regime.
Erdogan was aware of the growing power of the Gulenists and their growing links to Washington. Erdogan moved decisively and successfully, to pre-empt the Gulenist power grab by forcing a premature coup.
Erdogan Power Bloc Defeats Gulenist Presence
The Gulenists were a powerful force in the Turkish state and civil society. They had a strong presence in the civil bureaucracy; among sectors of the military, the mass media and educational installations; and among technocrats in the financial agencies. Yet they were defeated in less than twenty-four hours, because Erdogan had several undeniable strengths.
First and foremost, Erdogan was an unmatched political leader with a strategy to retain power and a powerful active mass popular base. The Gulenists had nothing comparable.
Erdogan had a superior intelligence and military command which infiltrated and undermined the Gulenists who were totally unprepared for a violent confrontation.
The Gulenists permeationist' strategy was unprepared and totally incapable of seizing power and mobilizing the street'.
They lacked the cadres and organized grass roots support which Erdogan had built from the bottom-up over the previous two decades.
Erdogan's insider and outside Islamic-Nationalist strategy was far superior to the Gulenist insider-pro-US liberal strategy.
US Miscalculations in the Coup
The Gulenists depended on US support, which totally miscalculated the relations of power and misread Erdogan's capacity to preempt the coup.
The major flaw among the US advisers was their ignorance of the Turkish political equation: they underestimated Erdogan's overwhelming party, electoral and mass support. The CIA overestimated the Gulenists support in their institutional elite structures and underestimated their political isolation in Turkish society.
Moreover, the US military had no sense of the specifications of Turkish political culture the general popular opposition to a military-bureaucratic takeover. They failed to recognize that the anti-coup forces included political parties and social movements critical of Erdogan.
The US strategists based the coup on their misreading of the military coups in Egypt, Libya, Iraq and Yemen which ousted nationalist and Islamic civilian regimes.
Erdogan was not vulnerable in the same way as President Mohamed Morsi (June 30, 2012 July 3, 2013) was in Egypt he controlled intelligence, military and mass supporters.
The US-Gulenists military intelligence strategy was unplanned, uncoordinated and precipitous Erdogan's counter-coup forced their hand and struck decisive, sweeping blows that demoralized the entire Gulenist super-structure. Thousands of supporters fell like clay pigeons.
The US was put on the defensive the rapid dissolution of their followers forced them to disown their allies and fall back on general, unconvincing humanitarian' and security' criticisms of Erdogan. Their claims that the Erdogan purge would weaken the fight against ISIS had no influence in Turkey. Washington's charges that the arrests were mistreating and abusing' prisoners had no impact.
The key political fact is that the US backed an uprising which had taken up arms and killed Erdogan loyalist military personel and innocent unarmed civilians opposed to the coup undermined Washington's feeble protests.
In the end the US even refused refugee status and abandoned their Gulenist General's to Erdogan's fate. Only Fethullah Gulen himself was protected from extradition by his State Department handlers.
Consequences of the US-Gulen Coup
Washington's failure to bring down Erdogan could have enormous repercussions throughout the Middle East, Western Europe and the United States.
Erdogan ordered seven thousand troops to encircle the strategic NATO airbase in Incirlik, Turkey, an act of intimidation threatening to undermine NATO's major nuclear facility and operational base against Syria, Iraq and Russia.
Turkish intelligence and cabinet officials have called into question ongoing political alliances, openly accusing the US military of treason for its role in the coup.
Erdogan has moved to reconcile relations with Russia and has distanced his ties with the European Union.
If Turkey downgrades its ties with NATO, the US would lose its strategic ally on the Southern flank of Russia and undermine its capacity to dominate Syria and Iraq.
Washington's leverage in Turkey has been dramatically reduced with the decimation of the Gulenist power base in the civilian and military organizations.
Washington may have to rely on the anemic, unstable and servile Syriza Tsipras regime in Greece to anchor' its policies in the region.
The failed coup means a major retreat for Washington in the region and a possible advance for Syria, Iran, Lebanon and Russia.
There are two caveats to this proposition. After Erdogan completes' the purge of Gulenists' and condemns Washington, will he be willing and able to pursue a new independent policy or will he simply tighten internal control and renegotiate' a NATO agreement?
Will Erdogan consolidate political control over the army or will the defeat of the Gulenists be a temporary outcome which will unleash new military factions which will destabilize the political regime?
Finally, Erdogan depends on Western finance and investment which is highly resistant to backing a regime critical of the US, the EU and NATO. If Erdogan faces economic pressures from the West can he turn elsewhere or will he, in the face of capitalist realities' retreat and submit?
Erdogan, temporarily may have defeated a US coup, but history teaches us that new military, political and economic interventions are on Washington's agenda.
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Graham E. Fuller Where Were You on the Night of July 15?

09.08.2016*Author:*F. William Engdahl

Much has been written on the July 15 failed coup attempt in Turkey. The Erdogan government has pointed to the exiled Fethullah Gülen sitting in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania, and formally requested his extradition to face charges in Turkish courts. Washington so far refuses. As a massive nationwide investigation by police and security forces continues inside Turkey, new damning details emerge almost daily that point to the key role of the CIA behind their Fethullah Gülen Movement (termed FETÖ for Fethullah Terrorist Organization in Turkish) and the US military. Now the Turkish media reports that none other than Gülen mentor, "former" CIA man Graham E. Fuller, along with another "former" CIA person and close Fuller associate, Henri J. Barkey, were at a luxury hotel on one of the Princes' Islands in the Sea of Marmara, some twenty minutes from Istanbul, on the night of July 15.

While Washington adamantly continues do deny any and all involvement in the failed July 15 Turkish coup attempt, Turkish media is revealing detailed information of the involvement of key US figures as alleged coup organizers. They include the former NATO International Security Assistance Force (Afghanistan) Commander, Army General John F. Campbell. And now new revelations name Henri J. Barkey, a former CIA man, now based as Bernard L. and Bertha F. Cohen Professor at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, conveniently, a mere 26 miles or 30 minute drive via PA-33 from Saylorsburg, home of the exiledFethullah Gülen.

According to the Istanbul Yeni Safak paper, on the July 15 night of the coup Henri Barkey and a group of seventeen others, mostly foreigners, met for hours in a locked room in the Splendid Palas hotel on the tourist Princes' Island outside Istanbul and reportedly followed coup developments on TV amid their closed-door talks, according to testimony of hotel personnel. The paper cites a source from Istanbul Police's Intelligence, Counter Terror, Cyber Crime and Criminal Units, who reported that Barkey was holding a meeting at the hotel with 17 top figures, most of them foreign nationals, on July 15, the day of the failed coup attempt in Turkey.

According to the hotel management, Barkey had held a "meeting that lasted hours until the morning on July 16 in a special room. They have been following the coup attempt over TV channels," the hotel personnel told*police.

Graham E. Fuller too?

Other reports from well-informed Turkish independent journalists say that among the members present with Barkey the night of the coup was former CIA senior officer and mentor of Fethullah Gülen, Graham E. Fuller, former CIA Station Chief in Turkey. That would be no surprise. Fuller and Barkey are both old Langley CIA associates. Both have long involvement with affairs Turkish. They even co-authored a book, Turkey's Kurdish Question.

Indeed, it would seem something recently has stung the 78-year old wily CIA veteran, Fuller. He claims to have retired from the agency years ago, when he went over to the CIA-tied RAND Corporation. Yet he re-emerged from the shadows during the Boston Marathon bombing to try, feeling obviously on the spot, to deny links to the two Chechyn brothers accused of that event. Fuller had then to admit that the Tsarnaev brothers had an Uncle, Uncle Ruslan', aka Ruslan Tsarnaev, a former employee of Dick Cheney's Halliburton in Central Asia, who had lived in Fuller's home for a stint when Uncle Ruslan was married to Fuller's daughter.*Bizarre enough, just coincidence' for sure… Yet if Fuller had not wanted to draw the spotlight on himself, he would have done better had he just shut up and let it blow over. Not very professional for a veteran CIA spook.

Now Fuller again in his personal blog rushes to deny being behind Fethullah Gülen and the Turkish coup. His blog post is a rambling paean of praise for his protégé, Gülen, writing that "Gülen comes out of an apolitical, more Sufi, mystical and social tradition. Gülen is interested in slow, deep social change including secular higher education…looking at the dramatically failed coup attempt against Erdogan last week, I believe it is unlikely that Gülen was the mastermind behind it." Erdogan, never to my knowledge, called Gülen "mastermind behind the coup." He said the Gülen networks played the key roles carrying it out. Masterminds, charitably using the word, were elsewhere, sitting in Tampa, Florida Centcom headquarters and in Langley, Virginia.

Despite Fuller's clumsy attempt to sheep-dip Gülen, it's been documented that the same CIA-backed Gülen organization, after the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 1990's, rushed to establish Gülen schools across former Soviet Central Asia republics from Turkey into Chechnya and Dagestan in Russia, into Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and on into Xingiang, China.

In 1999, while at RAND, Fuller advocated using Muslim forces to further US interests in Central Asia against both China and Russia. He stated, "The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Russians. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia."

Fuller's book, Turkey's New Geopolitics: From the Balkans to Western China, was published in 1993, just as Gülen's organization was establishing a string of Gülen schools targeting the local children of the elites in Central Asia all the way to Xinjiang Province in Western China, home of many Muslim Turkic Uyghurs. By the mid-1990s, more than seventy-five Gülen schools had spread to Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and even to Dagestan and Tatarstan in Russia, amid the chaos of the post-Soviet Boris Yeltsin era.

In 2011, Osman Nuri Gündeş, former head of Foreign Intelligence for the Turkish MIT, the "Turkish CIA," and chief intelligence adviser in the mid-1990s to Prime Minister Tansu Çiller, published a bombshell book that was only released in Turkish. In the book, Gündeş, then 85 and retired, revealed that, during the 1990s, the Gülen schools then popping up across Central Asia were providing a base for hundreds of CIA agents under cover of being "native-speaking English teachers." According to Gündeş, the Gülen movement "sheltered 130 CIA agents" at its schools in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistanalone.

Full disclosure?

Then Fuller admits something that suggests, "Methinks thou doth protest too much." He writes: "Full disclosure: It is on public record that I wrote a letter as a private citizen in connection with Gülen's US green card application in 2006 stating that I did not believe that Gülen constituted a security threat to the*US…"

Of course, Langley spooks by nature never make "full disclosure." He omits that his letter was co-signed by a second senior CIA veteran of 31 years, George Fidas, and by an alleged CIA man, then US Ambassador to Turkey, Morton Abramowitz, himself a board member of George Soros International Crisis Group. Sibel Edmonds, former FBI Turkish translator and "whistleblower," named Abramowitz, along with Graham E. Fuller, as part of a dark cabal within the US Government that she discovered were using networks out of Turkey to advance a criminal, "deep state" agenda across the Turkic world, from Istanbul across the Russian Federation into China. The network that she documented included significant involvement in heroin trafficking out of Afghanistan, perhaps one of the sources of Gülen's greatwealth.

Fuller also omits to say that Fuller's successful CIA intervention to secure Gülen's permanent Green Card special status was opposed by the US State Department whose attorneys stated, "Because of the large amount of money that Gülen's movement uses to finance his projects, there are claims that he has secret agreements with Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Turkic governments. There are suspicions that the CIA is a co-payer in financing these projects."

The idea that Graham E. Fuller would be involved in the present CIA-Gülen Turkish coup attempt is given added credence from another statement by Fuller who, while at CIA played a key role in their 1980s Afghanistan Mujidideen war against the Soviet Union, a guerilla war where the CIA recruited a young Saudi named Osama bin Laden to oversee terror training of Islamic Jihadists in Pakistan.

The aim of Fuller's unusual blog admission is clearly to make a case that neither he, Fuller, nor his protégé, Gülen had anything to do with the coup. We must then ask, "Graham E. Fuller, where were you on the night of July 15?"

The General with $2 billion

Details have also emerged alleging the role as the key military figure orchestrating the Turkish military in the failed coup. According to Yeni Safak, a paper close to Erdogan, just-retired head of the US Afghanistan Command, ISAF, General John F. Campbell, had not retired as announced this March to cultivate his rose garden and play golf. He was given a covert assignment some eight months before to recruit the Turkish military leadership of the coup. Already then Erdogan had been evidently slated for elimination in favor of a Gülen takeover of the country and its key institutions. They report that Campbell had made at least two secret visits to Turkey for top secret meetings in Erzurum military base and the Adana İnicrlik NATO Airbase since May, until the day of the coup*attempt.

Equally interesting, the paper reports, in detail, how Campbell reportedly oversaw a bankroll of $2 billion to grease the skids of the Turkish officer corps for the planned coup. They wrote that the Nigeria branch of the United Bank of Africa (UBA) was the main base for the money transactions for the coup plotters: "Millions of dollars of money has been transferred from Nigeria to Turkey by a group of CIA personnel. The money, which has been distributed to an 80-person special team of the CIA, was used to convince pro-coup*generals."

For $2 billion presumably you can buy a lot of generals. The same report stated that according to sources, the CIA used the strong presence of Gülen Cemaat networks for the planned coup in central and eastern Turkey. The Yeni Safak report described testimony from those captured as to how coup military were recruited from Turkish officers at Incirlik airbase: "The supporters, who also were categorized as those who will move with us,' were provided a huge amount of money. All soldiers and officers in this category were considered as the devoted members of the FETO terror group (Gülen Organization.w.e.)

Turkish independent journalist sources have told me that the CIA infiltration of the Turkish military had taken place over decades, as part of the process of eliminating any nationalist Kemalist generals that might oppose a Gülen-led Islamist Turkey. According to these reports, Gülen recruits from lower ranks in the military were secretly given the answers to all military entrance exams to insure their admission into officer ranks. These sources estimate that perhaps over 50% of the senior ranks of the Turkish army was occupied by Gülenist generals before July 15.

The picture emerging of Gülen and his organization is hardly what Graham E. Fuller describes as "an a-political, more Sufi, mystical and social tradition." In fact Gülen was forced to flee to the USA at the end of the 1990's when Turkish secret police taped a closed-door sermon by Gülen to his closest followers in which he reportedly said, "You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers…You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it…You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power…in Turkey…" Sounds a bit like Lenin with a Koran.

Dunford's rush trip

There must be some real fire behind all the smoke coming out of Turkey and the Erdogan government since the failed coup of July 15. The US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Joseph Fightin Joe' Dunford, is rushing to Turkey on an unexpected visit on July 31.

For the first time since the coup, on July 29, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan publicly accused General Joseph Votel, Commander of United States Central Command of, "siding with the coup plotters." At a July 28 seminar in Washington of the Aspen Institute think-tank, Votel had declared, "We've certainly had relationships with a lot of Turkish leaders, military leaders in particular. And so I'm concerned about what the impact is on those relationships as we continue to move forward," referring to the arrested military prisoners in Turkey, to which Erdogan replied, "It's not up to you to make that decision. Who are you? Know your*place!"

Depending on what Erdogan does now going forward and with which countries, whether he formally withdraws Turkey from NATO, whether after his*meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, he acts to change Turkey's support for toppling the Assad regime in Syria and draw closer to Russia and away from the West, the entire US geopolitical position across the Middle East into Eurasia as far as Russia and even China could become a catastrophe for the once-arrogant plotters, the old boring patriarchs of the CIA and their Gülen protégé. The next months will clearly be critical in the most unimaginable ways.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he*holds*a degree in politics from Princeton University and*is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine*"New Eastern Outlook"
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during Dunford's meetings at Incirlik.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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David Guyatt Wrote:I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during Dunford's meetings at Incirlik.

Ditto. Bribes, limited hang-outs, obfuscatory clarifications, flattery and threats is my guess for the mixture.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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Paul Rigby Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during Dunford's meetings at Incirlik.

Ditto. Bribes, limited hang-outs, obfuscatory clarifications, flattery and threats is my guess for the mixture.

Along with numerous "fucks" and "goddamns" I should think...

I wonder what Robert Parry and VIPS are thinking? Parry publishes a lot of Fuller's essays, as Fuller is a member of VIPS, the Veterans for Intelligence Sanity co-founded by Ray McGovern. Both McGovern, Robert Parry - and indeed VIPS itself - are highly credible imo., and this must be raising questions with them.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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David Guyatt Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during Dunford's meetings at Incirlik.

Ditto. Bribes, limited hang-outs, obfuscatory clarifications, flattery and threats is my guess for the mixture.

Along with numerous "fucks" and "goddamns" I should think...

I wonder what Robert Parry and VIPS are thinking? Parry publishes a lot of Fuller's essays, as Fuller is a member of VIPS, the Veterans for Intelligence Sanity co-founded by Ray McGovern. Both McGovern, Robert Parry - and indeed VIPS itself - are highly credible imo., and this must be raising questions with them.

Oh no~! Is it true that McGovern and Parry are in the same organization as Fuller.....horrors! I think highly of the former two and not of the latter...how did this occur?!
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