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Coup Underway in Turkey
Quote:Oh no~! Is it true that McGovern and Parry are in the same organization as Fuller.....horrors! I think highly of the former two and not of the latter...how did this occur?!

Always be ready for the possibility that they are one of the pipes in the Mighty Wurlitzer.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during Dunford's meetings at Incirlik.

Ditto. Bribes, limited hang-outs, obfuscatory clarifications, flattery and threats is my guess for the mixture.

Along with numerous "fucks" and "goddamns" I should think...

I wonder what Robert Parry and VIPS are thinking? Parry publishes a lot of Fuller's essays, as Fuller is a member of VIPS, the Veterans for Intelligence Sanity co-founded by Ray McGovern. Both McGovern, Robert Parry - and indeed VIPS itself - are highly credible imo., and this must be raising questions with them.

Oh no~! Is it true that McGovern and Parry are in the same organization as Fuller.....horrors! I think highly of the former two and not of the latter...how did this occur?!

Fuller is supposed to be a "former" intelligence officer and whistleblower and joined VIPS. That seems to have opened the door for him. Cunning eh.

Ray McGovern and Robert Parry are top guys and I should think they'll be rethinking their relationship with Fuller as we speak.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:Oh no~! Is it true that McGovern and Parry are in the same organization as Fuller.....horrors! I think highly of the former two and not of the latter...how did this occur?!

Always be ready for the possibility that they are one of the pipes in the Mighty Wurlitzer.

A disturbingly paranoid & unworthy thought with which I entirely concur.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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Henri Barkey is interviewed by NPR radio

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/11/489661913/...itary-coup
Turkey Blames U.S. Scholar For Instigating Attempted Military Coup

August 11, 20164:33 PM ET

NPR's Ari Shapiro talks with Henri Barkey of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars about why Turkey has accused him of being connected to the attempted military coup last month.

You could also listen to the interview here:

http://www.npr.org/programs/all-things-considered

Dude sounds pretty harmless to me, but the voice can deceive. Funny, I just heard it in the car as I was heading in.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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Pepe Escobar has reported yesterday that during his meeting with Putin, Erdogan suggested that they should "ditch the dollar" and henceforward all bilateral trade between Russia and Turkey should be settled in Turkish Lira and Russian Rubles. Escobar regards this as being the trigger point for a new US led coup.

He also reports that Julian Assange has revealed that the "leak" that Erdogan was fleeing to Germany for asylum in order to accelerate the recent failed coup was leaked to NBC by the US military.

See HERE.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Does he mean that the meeting was yesterday, or that he is reporting it yesterday? I guess it doesn't hardly matter, since the "coup" was in July. Whatever triggered the "coup," it couldn't have happened in August. Also, according to RT, Erdogan and Putin haven't met since the downing if the Russian jet.

https://www.rt.com/news/355173-erdogan-p...t-meeting/

Is Pepe Escobar suggesting that the shoot down of the Russian jet was part of the plan, too?
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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The latest from Sibel Edmonds at BFP:

Quote:WikiLeaks, Hillary-Gulen Intimate Ties & How the Clintons Gave Birth to Mullah Gulen's Terrorist Network

SIBEL EDMONDS | AUGUST 12, 2016LEAVE A COMMENT
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In this episode of Spotlight with Sibel and Spiro we discuss the notorious USA-based Mullah Fethullah Gulen and Operation Gladio B in light of Wikileaks' recent announcement that they plan to release a new batch of e-mails exposing the intimate ties between Hillary Clinton and Gulen's 25+ Billion shady network. Sibel Edmonds explains how Fethullah Gulen was brought into the United States during the Clinton Administration, and how Bill Clinton's White House, the State Department and the Justice Department's Janet Reno provided the infamous mullah and his terrorism-heroin operations with blanket immunity and protection. We also take a look at Clinton's hand-picked handlers, Graham Fuller and Mark Grossman, selected to manage and direct Gulen's cells in the U.S. and abroad.


The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Turkish admiral seeks asylum in the US wanted by Istanbul as coup plotter:

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Turkish admiral claims asylum in US' after failed coup

AUGUST 10, 2016 BY ADMINISTRATOR LEAVE A COMMENT
[Image: asylum-turkish-admiral.jpg]A high-ranking Turkish military officer has reportedly claimed asylum in the United States after authorities in Turkey linked him to the failed coup, the BBC reports.
Mustafa Ugurlu had been on a posting to a Nato base in Virginia at the time of the 15 July botched coup.
Turkey has purged its military ranks of some 100 generals accused of being part of a shadowy movement that follows a US-based Turkish preacher.
Rear Adm Ugurlu disappeared on 22 July, a week after the coup.
US officials told Reuters news agency that an unnamed rear admiral was seeking asylum, and he was later named by Anadolu Agency as Mustafa Ugurlu.
It comes at a difficult moment in relations between the two Nato allies as Turkey is seeking the extradition from the US of the cleric accused of masterminding the coup, Fethullah Gulen. He denies involvement.
Two US officials told Reuters the rear admiral had been working at Nato's Allied Command Transformation headquarters in Norfolk, Virginia, where 26 Turkish military are posted.
In April he took part in a Nato conference in Poland and was identified as the Western military alliance's Assistant Chief of Staff for Command and Control, Deployability and Sustainability based in Norfolk.
A Turkish embassy official in Washington told Reuters that the rear admiral had failed to report for duty after a detention order was issued. "He left his badges and his ID at the base and after that no one has heard anything from him," the official said.
Rear Adm Ugurlu was named by prosecutors in the western Turkish city of Izmir, according to Anadolu, as part of a military espionage case involving the leaking of information.
Some 18,000 people have been placed in detention in response to the failed coup, including many from the military. The government said on Monday that more than 200 soldiers suspected of involvement in the coup, including nine generals, were still at large.
Many more have lost their jobs or been suspended across Turkey's public services, on suspicion of being Gulen followers.
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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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TEN SECRET ORGANIZERS OF PRO-AMERICAN COUP IN TURKEY

18.08.2016

Anastasiya Kazimirko-Kirillova

http://katehon.com/article/ten-secret-or...oup-turkey

Quote:The list of Americans involved in the Turkish putsch arrangement was published.

The new list of US intelligence personnel involved in the coup in Turkey was announced. According to the Aksam newspaper, these people arrived in the country from July 13 to 15, and directly co-ordinated rebels actions, as well as helped to create the publications in western and local gülenist media.

While it proved a number of CIA members involvement, officially attributed to the composition of the US diplomatic representation.

Graham Fuller is closely associated with Fethullah Gülen, "former CIA employee," working in the Middle East for 20 years and wanted to use the Gülen influence in Russia. He was responsible for the support of gülenist in to building a "parallel state" in Turkey. Witn the direct support of Fuller Gülen, he managed to obtain permanent the US residency. Then the personal guarantees were given by three CIA member, he was one of them. Frederick Engdah in his book Holy Wars of the Western world describe him in the details.

According to him, Graham Fuller was no ordinary intelligence officer. He took an active part in the coordination of activities of the Mujahideen and other organizations of political Islam. He became a "pioneer" in using the Muslim Brotherhood and similar Islamist groups as a tool of American foreign policy. In 1982, Graham Fuller was appointed national intelligence officer in charge of the CIA for the Middle East and South Asia. He became responsible for Turkey. In 1986, when Fuller became vice-chairman of the National Intelligence at the CIA Board, and in 1988, when the war of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan was coming to an end, Fuller formally retired from the RAND intelligence analytical center of Washington neo-conservatives, that is closely associated with Pentagon and the CIA. For a variety of evidence, he helped to develop a strategy for the creation and use of the Gülen movement as a geopolitical force to intrude into the countries of the former Soviet Union in Central Asia.

In the RAND Fuller devoted to study the Islamic fundamentalism in Turkey, Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Algeria. In his works, he considered Iraq's survival issues, wrote about the post-Soviet, new geopolitics in Central Asia, which Gülen sent his adherents to found nw Gülen schools and madrassas, says Engdahl.

Henri Barkey is one of the leaders of the Turkish department of the CIA, former member of the US State Department Policy Planning Staff for the Middle East. He was famous for his articles against the Turkish state. In particular, Russia is widely dispersed his article in Foreign Policy - Erdogan's Foreign Policy Is in Ruins.

Helen Laipson is assistant head of the US National Security Council, former vice chairman of the CIA National Intelligence Council.

Sylvia Tiriaki is a political analyst, who observes Israel, Palestine, and Armenia.

Ahmed Morsy is an expert at the Carnegie Endowment, a curator in Egypt and Iran.

Ellie Geranmayeh is an employee of the Department of foreign relations of the European Council, observing Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Mesud Karokhail is the analyst on the Middle East, the expert a number of international NGOs.

Marwa Daudy is the Associate Professor of the Center for Arab Studies at the Georgetown University. The author of the book The watershed between Syria, Turkey and Iraq and numerous publications about the "atrocities" of the Syrian leadership, argued in one of his articles that Putin benefited from the rise of the Islamic State, received a carte blanche for military intervention along with the Assad regime.

Samir Sumaidaie is the former US ambassador to Iraq, at one time represented the opposition to Saddam Hussein.

Ali Vaez is the one of the Woodrow Wilson Center managers.

According to Turkish sources, the group focal point was Büyükada island near Istanbul, where the rebellions were directed and the media fake stories were prepared.

After the inevitable failure of the coup became clear, the media started to spread the fake story that allegedly Erdogan himself had staged the coup attempt to strengthen his position in the country. This thesis is widely distributed among the Western press. After that, these persons left Turkey.

The operational work of the Turkish secret services identified these CIA members as participants in the Arab Spring events in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen and Libya.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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