JFK Assassination - The Names Who Planned It

[Mark A. O'Blazney]

Tom:

Are you out at JFK Facts?

Photon/Paul May is running roughshod over there again.

Mr. Scully has been 'out' for a while as the 'editor' of Morley's Place. Jim. Can't you tell?

He tried. Lord knows he tried. He still does.

Look at who he's had to suffer through over the years……. Colby, Trejo, Rago, Drago (for some reason I have a soft spot in my (what's left of it) heart for Mr. D, one of the founders of this fine forum). And there are so many more asshats who thought they 'knew it all'…… remember Bonnie Lee Williams?………. sigh.

Being banned at the EF for calling bulls** is a far cry from, say, Fetzer, Baker, Cinquey & Co. being banned there…… or here. Well I guess it's just me rambling now.
My apologies.

Reminds me of what Trump thinks he can get away with by opening his mouth. A fraud is a fraud is a fraud.

[Albert Doyle]

Being banned at the EF for calling bulls** is a far cry from, say, Fetzer, Baker, Cinquey & Co. being banned there…… or here.

Gordon needs to be gotten out of there. He bans good posters and protects ROKC trolls.

[Jim DiEugenio]

Mark, you forgot Morrow.

OK, thanks Mark, I kind of thought so with Photon/Paul May back in his screaming/strait jacket mode.

BTW, Drago has gone even further at Burnham's than he did here.

He has set himself up as some kind of Torquemada over the research community. I come in for a regular pop every so often.

[Thomas Neal]

[quote=Mark A. O'Blazney]

Being banned at the EF for calling bulls** is a far cry from, say, Fetzer, Baker, Cinquey & Co. being banned there…… or here.

Gordon needs to be gotten out of there. He bans good posters and protects ROKC trolls.

I don't know the origin/allegiance of the MANY trolls on EF, but I strongly agree that Gordon is a detriment to progress.

[Mark A. O'Blazney]

[quote=Mark A. O'Blazney]

Being banned at the EF for calling bulls** is a far cry from, say, Fetzer, Baker, Cinquey & Co. being banned there…… or here.

Gordon needs to be gotten out of there. He bans good posters and protects ROKC trolls.

I don't know the origin/allegiance of the MANY trolls on EF, but I strongly agree that Gordon is a detriment to progress.

Please note that you have included Mr. Doyle's statement with mine, Mr. Neal. An honest mistake, I'm sure.

[R.K. Locke]

What a joke this thread has become. No wonder JFK forums are dying.

[Jim Hargrove]

Indeed! Let's at least get this discussion back to Tom Scully's discovery that "Dial Ryder was brother of Jack Leslie Bowen's (John Ceasar Grossi's) wife..." and that Jack Bowen's name is on "Oswald's" alleged library card. Could this have real significance?


How could "Lee Harvey Oswald" have selected the Irving Sports Shop (where Ryder worked) as the place to frame himself... I mean... to get a scope installed on his rifle that supposedly already had a scope when he allegedly purchased it from Kleins?


Edith Whitworth, owner of the Furniture Mart (a former gun dealership that still had a gun sign in front) testified that "Lee Harvey Oswald," his wife and two young children visited her shop during a workday morning in early November 1963 (Nov. 4, 5, or 6). Although "Lee Harvey Oswald" was clocked in at the TSBD during all those times, Edith and her friend Gertrude Hunter indicated that "Oswald" was driving a two-tone 1957 Ford and brought a long, wrapped package into the shop asking for a particular gun part, which, if memory serves, Edith called a "plunger."


The Warren Commission perhaps was genuinely puzzled by more than what the heck was a gun plunger. In July 1964, they brought Mrs. Whitworth, Mrs. Hunter, and Marina Oswald together and Marina swore she had never met the women and had never been to the Furniture Mart and that her husband didn't drive. (The WC was now starring straight at the fact that "Oswald" and his entire family may have been impersonated, just as they had been in Oak Cliff, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, and Alice, Texas.) Of course, the WC just let the whole issue slide.


In Mrs. Whitworth's original testimony, she indicated that she told "Oswald" that her store no longer handled guns but suggested he go to the Irving Sports Shop, which was owned by her friend Woody Greener, and where Dial Ryder happened to work. Ryder said that he found the undated work ticket with "Oswald" on it and thought he must have performed the work in the first half of November, generally matching Mrs. Whitworth's recollection.


This strikes me as the most likely reason "Lee Harvey Oswald" may have visited Ryder's shop, but most of us, including me, feel there are far too many coincidences in this case, and I wonder if I'm missing something about Scully's discovery. Anyone else?

[LR Trotter]

[quote=Scott Kaiser]Here's an even better question for the intergalactically stupid, of the 636 times they tried to assassinate Fidel Castro who ordered it? Or, was it just planned by his assassins? SMH....[/QUO


[size=12]​I make no denial of stupidity, but what is the "it" that "who" ordered? I tend to believe that if the right "who" was involved, the "it" would have occurred. My comment, as stated, in no way should indicate my approval or disapproval, expressed or otherwise, of any "it"!


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[LR Trotter]

[quote=Scott Kaiser]Here's an even better question for the intergalactically stupid, of the 636 times they tried to assassinate Fidel Castro who ordered it? Or, was it just planned by his assassins? SMH....[/QUO


[size=12]​I make no denial of stupidity, but what is the "it" that "who" ordered? I tend to believe that if the right "who" was involved, the "it" would have occurred. My comment, as stated, in no way should indicate my approval or disapproval, expressed or otherwise, of any "it"!


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[Scott Kaiser]

Here's an even better question for the intergalactically stupid, of the 636 times they tried to assassinate Fidel Castro who ordered it? Or, was it just planned by his assassins? SMH....


[size=12]​I make no denial of stupidity, but what is the "it" that "who" ordered? I tend to believe that if the right "who" was involved, the "it" would have occurred. My comment, as stated, in no way should indicate my approval or disapproval, expressed or otherwise, of any "it"!


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Okay Mr. Trotter, you win. With Mr. Johnson's blessings and approval in hopes he does not find my response offensive, repulsive or otherwise trolling, I will be more than happy to re-locate what I've said so my reply remains in the proper place. Thanking ya'll in advance, as always, I am, very truly.

What the hell am I talking about?

Mr. Trotter,

I apologize for my post being deleted, please note I had nothing to do with that. I did answer your question, and, though I may not remember word for word what I said, I will do my best to answer it, your question, in the hopes you will read it, my answer, without it, my post, gets deleted again.

Stupidity is not something that can be denied. You ask, what is the "it" that "who" ordered? I said, "who ordered it" being singular, meaning, any assassination attempt on Fidel Castro's life in calculating a daunting total number of 636 times.

Surely, not all 600 assassination attempts on Fidel Castro's life happened all at once? Did it?

With that said, did Richard Helms order any of the hits on Castro's life? Or, did Helms simply allow them, them meaning the "who" to plan, carry out and assassinate Castro?

I also distinctly remember saying the "it" was a representation of Kennedy's assassination, "it" only took one good plan, "it" only took one good shot, and "it" only took one good place to carry "it" out.

I have a lot more to say on this, and as I told someone I would not get myself involved in discussing assassination plots, I am however, responding to your question in the hopes of "it," my post not getting deleted again before you have the chance to read "it," my post. I'm not ignoring you sir.