I just got done watching the last disc of Randy Benson's set of 20, which composed much of the raw data on which he based his documentary The Searchers.
The last disc contained a two hour interview with Adele Edison. I had read one or her essays and I had also read Bill Kelly's two essays on her experience. But I had never heard her speak live or in front of a camera. She seemed credible to me. She went to the FBI on the 24th, she talked to Garrison, although a bit late in 1974, she wrote Frank Church, she wrote Cornwell, she talked to Fonzi, she filed FOIA's through a lawyer, she talked to the ARRB.
Her husband would be a good corroborating witness, I wonder if he is still around? What about her kids? She also kept some notes. Plus she underwent hypnosis which helped her recall certain details. Is that guy still around?
I only had one question mark about her interview. She said the house Oswald lived in on Magazine street in NO was owned by Bill McClaney. I had never heard that before form anyone. Is it true? Or did someone just give her some bad info? Which is a common ploy.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:I just got done watching the last disc of Randy Benson's set of 20, which composed much of the raw data on which he based his documentary The Searchers.
The last disc contained a two hour interview with Adele Edison. I had read one or her essays and I had also read Bill Kelly's two essays on her experience. But I had never heard her speak live or in front of a camera. She seemed credible to me. She went to the FBI on the 24th, she talked to Garrison, although a bit late in 1974, she wrote Frank Church, she wrote Cornwell, she talked to Fonzi, she filed FOIA's through a lawyer, she talked to the ARRB.
Her husband would be a good corroborating witness, I wonder if he is still around? What about her kids? She also kept some notes. Plus she underwent hypnosis which helped her recall certain details. Is that guy still around?
I only had one question mark about her interview. She said the house Oswald lived in on Magazine street in NO was owned by Bill McClaney. I had never heard that before form anyone. Is it true? Or did someone just give her some bad info? Which is a common ploy.
Jim,
I thought I might be able to assist Adele. Before I contacted her in late 2009 I learned everything I could about New Orleans Secret Service AIC John W Rice who she claimed she reported her contacts with Col. Jose Rivera to
on 24 November in the federal building in the presence of FBI's Oren Bartlett. She said she had additional telephone contact with Rice in the months after the assassination and that she talked to Bartlett long after he had
retired.
I was impressed enough with her sharpness of recall and her earnestness and sheer intelligence to repeat the five hours long telephone contact with her on a November Saturday afternoon in a second and equally long call
to her the following afternoon.
Her ex-husband died in 2011 or 2012 and I urged her in late 2009 to pursue an affidavit from him especially because I thought this history would increase the weight of his collaboration, especially because he also was
a psychiatrist.
I found no information about the custody case leading me to believe Dr. Clayton Edisen had introduced Adele's claims about Rivera as a means to discredit her in the long court case.
Adele emphasized she had shared in real time what had happened in 1963 with her then husband and sought his advice about if, when, and how to report Rivera to authorities.
Col. Jose A. Rivera accused in this letter, sent to the HSCA, in 1976. He was cleared, when?
I have always done what I could.... I questioned whether Adele did all she could have. Empathizing with her influenced me to attempt to put myself in her place. It would have gnawed at me to an unbearable
degree not to resolve the question of who Rivera was in league with and why Rice and Bartlett provided no on the record follow up. I gave her Rice's daughter's married name and the daughter and her husband's
contact info. I informed Adele that Rice's wife's birthday was 22 November and on that day he travelled to and from Barksdale AFB to meet with USAF security and that Rice's older and recently married daughter
lived at Ft. Polk, directly on the route from NOLA to Shreveport. My theory was that Rice dropped his wife off to celebrate her birthday with their older daughter and I expected there was enough personal memory
about that particular weekend that there was a possibility Rice's two daughters could confirm whether Rice and Bartlett did go to Dallas just after Adele's meeting with them on Sunday the 24th, and that Adele could
win the sisters over to possibly assist her in some way.
Adele was interested enough to discuss that research and ask questions but within a week told me she did not want to bother Rice's daughter. Bill Kelly later said he and Adele were pursuing strategies to corroborate her
claims. Unless Adele was suffering from a disorder that impaired her judgment, she seemed too intelligent and articulate to be promoting misleading claims.
I found out rather recently that the paths of Frank Carlucci and Rivera likely crossed in rural Pennsylvania between 1948 and 1963 and I know Adele read my posts about that without comment.
I found that Mike Wallace's secretary later promoted to a Don Hewitt, 60 Minutes producer, married Rivera's nephew about 1990 and is FB friend's with Rivera's daughter. I found that Rivera was married in DC in 1925
and had a daughter shortly after but has an obit with an age ten years younger than he actually was and I have read that his military file is 800 pages.
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
22-01-2017, 06:25 AM (This post was last modified: 22-01-2017, 06:52 AM by Tom Scully.)
It never added up.... Rivera was married in 1924 and fathered this daughter (see obit image below to verify her name and relationship) in 1926 and his obit supports that he was born in 1911....
Rivera and Carolyn E Wilson divorced by the early 1930's
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http://www.funeralplan2.com/memorial/archive?id=114956Dollar Bay
Raymond Roy Hanks, 55, a resident of Dollar Bay, passed away unexpectedly early Thursday November 29, 2007.
Roy was born on December 8, 1951, in Stambaugh, MI. He was the son of the late R. Roy and Carolyn (Wilson) Hanks of Iron River.
He grew up in Iron River, MI and attended the Iron River Schools.
He is survived by his wife, Denise of Dollar Bay, MI
His children Jesse (Karen) Heikkinen of Dodgeville and Elizabeth Corrigan of Chassell. Also surviving are four grandchildren; Cameron, Bredon, Riley, and DrewElisabeth. His sisters Nancy Smith of Escanaba and Natalie Fredricks of Califorina. He is further survived by his mother-in-law Martha Heikkinen of Woodside Location a brother-in-law Alan (Corrie Hohly) Heikkinen of Calumet and sister-in-law Donna Slining of California.
Roy was preceded in death by his father Raymond Roy Hanks in July 1959 and his mother Carolyn Wilson Hanks in September 1991. ....
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Natalie Frederick
1926 - 2009 Obituary Condolences Flowers
Natalie Rivera Frederick, beloved mother, sister, and grandmother, passed away Tuesday, December 29th at Lodi Memorial Hospital at the age of 83. Born in New York City on February 5, 1926, she grew up in Richmond, Virginia. She also lived in Oregon and Texas, but spent most of her life in California. She started work for Pacific Telephone in the 1950's as a Customer Service Specialist, then left to raise her daughter. She also worked as a paraprofessional teacher at Neil Armstrong elementary school in San Ramon. She returned to AT&T in the early 1970's to participate in the development and implementation of the 911 emergency phone system in the bay area, for which she received an "Exceptional Contribution to Business Services" award. She retired in 1989. ....
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She leaves behind a daughter, Kimberly Kinser, two grandchildren, Laura Grace and Mason, a sister and brother-in-law, Linda and Kevin King of Milton, DE, a sister, Nancy Hanks Smith of Escanaba, MI. Also cousin, Claudia Wilson Pratt and her husband Ray, of Richmond, VA. Natalie was preceded in death by a younger brother, Raymond Roy Hanks of Dollar Bay, MI.
Published in Lodi News-Sentinel from Jan. 9 to Jan. 16, 2010
- See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/lodinew...VD6AE.dpuf
www.legacy.com/obituaries/recordnet/obituary.aspx?n=natalie-rivera-frederick&pid... Jan 8, 2010 - Lodi, CA Natalie Rivera Frederick Feb. 5, 1926 - Dec. 29, 2009 Memorial Services: Thurs. Jan. 14, 2:30 p.m., St. John The Baptist Episcopal ...
Natalie Rivera Frederick, beloved mother, sister, and grandmother, passed away Tuesday, December 29th at Lodi Memorial Hospital at the age of 83. Born in ...
www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/natalie-frederick-obituary?pid=1000000138318219 Natalie Rivera Frederick, beloved mother, sister, and grandmother, passed away Tuesday, December 29th at Lodi Memorial Hospital at the age of 83. Born in ...
Quote: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jarivera.htm In 1989, Maryland newspapers published the obituary of "Dr. Jose Albert Rivera, pathologist, analyst, 78," which read: Dr. Jose Albert Rivera, 78, a retired Army pathologist and research analyst at National Institutes of Health died of pancreatic cancer, Wednesday, August 16, 1989, at the Naval Medical Center in Bethesda. He lived in Kensington, Maryland [at 3913 Dunnel Lane]. Dr. Rivera retired in 1973 from a second career as a medical research analyst at the Institute of Neurological Diseases and Blindness, one of the NIH, where he worked after retiring from the Army in 1965. ....
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Production60 Minutes More- Taped in New York City by CBS News Prods. Executive producer, Alan Weisman; senior producer, Gail Eisen; associate producers, Emily M. Bernstein, Gretchen Crary; associate producer/editor, Tom Hamilton; coordinating producer, Susan Israel; studio director, Arthur Bloom; archival coordinator, Nancy Crumley. (For "60 Minutes") Executive producer, Don Hewitt; executive editor, Phil Scheffler; senior producers, Josh Howard, Merri Lieberthal.; Fast Forward-Taped in New York City by CBS News Prods. Executive producer, Susan Lester; senior producer, Kathy Sulkes; producers, Ann Dean, Gail Levin, Laura Palmer, Vicki Sufian; associate producers/editors, Paul C. Rosen, Chris Warford, Gary Winter; associate producers, H. Rene' Brinkley, Kyra Darnton, J.P. Olsen; coordinating producer, Reuben Chodosh; studio director, Peter B. Snyder; archival coordinator, Holly Cara Price; executive director of CBS News Prods., Margery Baker Riker.
Cast60 Minutes More; Correspondents: Mike Wallace, Steve Kroft, Ed Bradley, Andy Rooney. Anchor: Mile Wallace.; Fast Forward-Correspondent/Anchor: Paula Zahn.
On ‎7‎/‎15‎/‎2012 at 8:27 PM, Tom Scully said:
Interesting side note.... yesterday I confirmed with near certainty that Mike Wallace's secretary at the time 60 Minutes begain to air, a woman who went on to work for Don Hewitt as a 60 Minutes produces until at least 2004, has been married for a long number of years to the nephew of the wife of Col. Jose Albert Rivera.
I imagine what might have been accomplished, or triggered as detectable cover up moves, if Adele had been able to light a fire of intense exposure (like a lawsuit with P.R. releases...) under Col. Rivera's butt while Mike and Don were alive. This producer I am posting about might have become aware of accusations against Rivera and marshalled 60 Minutes investigative resources to satisfy her own curiousity. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.......
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Aldunate, Hilda CLIFTON PARK, N.Y. Hilda Aldunate, 103, died Sunday, August 2, 2009. Wife of the late Carlos; devoted mother of Robert (Joanne) and Carlos (Merri); also survived by two grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. A memorial service will be held at a later date. Interment will be in Miami, Fla. Arrangements, Emerick Funeral Home, 1550 Route 9, Clifton Park, NY 12065,
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...On Edit: I am now able to confirm the relationships described above with 100 percent certainty, and also that the 60 Minutes producer married into the family just a few months after the death of Col. Jose A. Rivera. I think Adele Edisen is a very persuausive advocate for her own amazing account of her interaction with Rivera, and I will pass along the contact information of this former 60 Minutes producer to Adele.
I am betting (No Bob, not my.......) Kyra Darnton cannot wait to dive into this old story and use her unique access
to interview her colleague, Merri, and Merri's facebook bud who is a first cousin of her husband Carlos Aldunate, Col. Jose Rivers'a daughter Linda Rivera King. Maybe Kyra's mother-in-law will be persuaded to approve a book deal for Adele Edisen ! WEDDINGS; Kyra Darnton, David Grann - New York Timeswww.nytimes.com › COLLECTIONS › MANHATTAN‎
Jul 2, 2000 Kyra Rachel Darnton, a daughter of Nina and John Darnton of ... His mother is the president and chief executive of Penguin Putnam, the
http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-to...etire.html
Grann to Retire
May 23, 2011
Phyllis Grann will end more than 40 years in the publishing business June 9 when she retires from her role as senior editor at the Doubleday division of the Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Grann joined Doubleday in 2002 after stepping down as the CEO of Penguin Putnam in 2001.
She rose to the top at Penguin following its acquisition of Putnam Berkley where she had been president, chairman and CEO. Before leaving Penguin, Grann was responsible for publishing, and in some cases editing, such international bestselling authors as Tom Clancy, Patricia Cornwell, Sue Grafton, A. Scott Berg, Kurt Vonnegut, Daniel Silva, John McEnroe and Judy Blume. At Doubleday, Grann acquired and edited such writers as Jeffrey Toobin, Tina Brown, Bob Herbert, Jim Newton, Ayelet Waldman and Tim Weiner, winner of the National Book Award. She also edited Stephen Carter and John Darnton for Knopf. According to Knopf chairman Sonny Mehta, Grann will be available to the house as a consultant and freelance editor, continuing to work with her authors under contract.
These people will not be revisiting anything that might rock the boat. Edited May 6, 2013 by Tom Scully
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:So Adele was divorced in 1967, and then went through a long custody battle with her husband over the kids?
Well, that makes the odds of getting him on the record difficult. What about the kids?
That obit would seem to make Rivera about 51 years old in 1963. Which seems right.
But why is there a dispute about when he was actually born?
Jim, his older daughter was born in 1926 and was 37 years old in 1963.
Adele told me her son was a US Army Col. I thought this was ironic because Rivera had that rank jn the same military branch.
I just found the proof that Rivera was age 65 in 1963, (dosing strangers clandestinely with LSD ?), and age 50 when he enlisted in the military in 1948.... least sinister explanation is that military did not admit 50 year olds?
Note the consistency of mother's name in handwritten, 1898 Peruvian birth record and SSA app, and SS # on app matches BIRLS record, but three different years of birth.....
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
I'm in contact with one of her children [a daughter] - but I'm not sure what you'd want them to provide proof of. None of her children - all professionals - have any doubts about Adele's story. Nor do I, from extensive email contacts with her over many years. She was impeccably honest and of the highest level of command of her mental faculties. She never sought fame or money from her experience.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Record keeping, especially births, in provincial back waters not always like the US.
I added this after you post,
Tom Scully Wrote:.......
Jim, his older daughter was born in 1926 and was 37 years old in 1963.
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....and perhaps you missed this?
Tom Scully Wrote:........ Four More Peruvians To Study At HopkinsPay-Per-View -
The Sun - Oct 12, 1920
.Toin q,nartet Of Ttie.tr Coun- trymen Already At Iiocul University. Four more . students from Peru have up for studv at Johns Hopkins Medical School. They are Oscar C. Hansen, 21 years old, who has studied in German.*- .lose A. Rivera, 21 years old. a newspaper man of Lima; Jose E. Ramirez. 20 years old, and Cayetano Pam-tliers, who has been iu this city sev- eral years and will complete his studies in .Inn'.'. The young men were former classmates iu the University oC San Marcos, Lima. Last week four other Peruvian stGd- enis arrived at Hopkins. Tbey are Pe- dro Pardo de Figueroa. Augusto D. Shai'bai'o, Manuel Alberto Mnlanovich and Julio A. Sessarego. ______
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Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:I'm in contact with one of her children [a daughter] - but I'm not sure what you'd want them to provide proof of. None of her children - all professionals - have any doubts about Adele's story. Nor do I, from extensive email contacts with her over many years. She was impeccably honest and of the highest level of command of her mental faculties. She never sought fame or money from her experience.
Peter,
I am in complete agreement with each point you have posted. I am convinced Adele was sincere. I had hoped to shame CBS 60 Minutes retired producer married to Rivera's nephew to at least respond...
Her fellow former CBS 60 minutes producer is still active and is Kyra Darnton, the daughter of the man who administers the Polk award. The only effect I think I accomplished was influencing Kyra Darnton to drop the nephew's wife as an FB friend.....
Quote:https://www.retroreport.org/about-retro-report/
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The project was launched by Buck, his partner Larry Chollet and Managing Editor Kyra Darnton and their team of producers, reporters and editors.....
Quote:I am betting (No Bob, not my.......) Kyra Darnton cannot wait to dive into this old story and use her unique access
to interview her colleague, Merri, and Merri's facebook bud who is a first cousin of her husband Carlos Aldunate, Col. Jose Rivers'a daughter Linda Rivera King. Maybe Kyra's mother-in-law will be persuaded to approve a book deal for Adele Edisen ! WEDDINGS; Kyra Darnton, David Grann - New York Timeswww.nytimes.com › COLLECTIONS › MANHATTAN‎
Jul 2, 2000 Kyra Rachel Darnton, a daughter of Nina and John Darnton of ... His mother is the president and chief executive of Penguin Putnam, the
Quote:http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-to...etire.html
Grann to Retire
May 23, 2011
Phyllis Grann will end more than 40 years in the publishing business June 9 when she retires from her role as senior editor at the Doubleday division of the Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Grann joined Doubleday in 2002 after stepping down as the CEO of Penguin Putnam in 2001.
She rose to the top at Penguin following its acquisition of Putnam Berkley where she had been president, chairman and CEO. Before leaving Penguin, Grann was responsible for publishing, and in some cases editing, such international bestselling authors as Tom Clancy, Patricia Cornwell, Sue Grafton, A. Scott Berg, Kurt Vonnegut, Daniel Silva, John McEnroe and Judy Blume. At Doubleday, Grann acquired and edited such writers as Jeffrey Toobin, Tina Brown, Bob Herbert, Jim Newton, Ayelet Waldman and Tim Weiner, winner of the National Book Award. She also edited Stephen Carter and John Darnton for Knopf. According to Knopf chairman Sonny Mehta, Grann will be available to the house as a consultant and freelance editor, continuing to work with her authors under contract.
These people will not be revisiting anything that might rock the boat. Edited May 6, 2013 by Tom Scully
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The George Polk Awards in Journalism are a series of prestigious[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] American journalism awards presented annually by Long Island University in New York in the United States. A writer for Idea Lab, a group blog hosted on the website of PBS, described the award as "one of only a couple of journalism prizes that means anything".[SUP][4][/SUP]
The awards were established in 1949 in memory of George Polk, a CBS correspondent who was murdered in 1948 while covering the Greek Civil War (194649). In 2009 former New York Times editor John Darnton was named curator of the George Polk Awards.[SUP][5].....[/SUP]
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The observation that Dr. Col. Rivera's daughter remains nonplussed about Adele Edisen's claims against her father to the point of leaving public access to her Facebook profile family photos of Dr. Col. Rivera, her own friends list, including the name of the CBS 60 Minutes producer, and that producer
leaving her own FB friends list public with Linda Rivera King's name included, seems confirmation that Edisen has not been forceful enough.https://twitter.com/tjscully/status/225228073866498048
Col. Jose A. Rivera accused in this letter, sent to the HSCA, in 1976. He was cleared, when? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AyArvWiCEAAGuZe.jpg
Shortly after I sent this tweet to Kyra Darnton, she no longer had the 60 Minutes producer on her (Kyra's) FB friend's list.: https://twitter.com/tjscully/status/534795626534690816
Ms. Darnton is: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/31/booming/a-preview-of-retro-reports-season-two.html?_r=0
The New York Times
Aug 30, 2013 A look at Retro Report's season, and an invitation to readers to suggest which … Kyra Darnton, who worked as a producer for "60 Minutes," is Retro Retro Report's managing editor, overseeing a staff of 12 journalists and 6 contributors..
Kyra Darnton's "foot in the door" for her journalism career was not hurt by her being John Darnton's daughter.:
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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