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A 9/11 investigation summary
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Who Killed John O'Neill 9/11 investigation summary:
* Part I: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675
* Part II: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281
* Part III: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987

Journal: journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug
Wiki view: tinyurl.com/jqqjv
Who Killed John O'Neill


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Who needs a plane?


An Updated MIHOP


Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to.
Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.
* AIG as Money Laundering Inc.
* Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by Paul Bremer
* Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.
* al-Cokeda as the drug dealers in the flight schools who are later called terrorists in the OCT.

* Learn how they all work together.
* Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.
* Learn how sophisticated psyops and black ops is.

* Learn what the government and the OCTers don't want you to know

Journal:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug
The video
Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story.

Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance - what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.

This is all for the same video, I gave different links in case some didn't work:

www.wkjo.com
whokilledjohnoneill.com

Movie Downloads:
http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html
Mirrors:
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935
www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill

al-Cokeda
Iran-Contra II


How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficking to finance black operations like 9/11 which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...

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Mohammed Atta's girlfriend

Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...

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Summary:

Ownership:

American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg
Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg
Ace = Evan Greenberg
Bear Stearns = Alan Greenberg

Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.
Greenberg-Traurig is now an "independent" law firm, but was started by Maurice.

Possible teams for 9/11:

October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy
The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar, bio-terrorism and homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11.

Kroll has military team in their company and merged with Armor Holdings on August 23rd thus adding Defence Systems Limited, another Private Military Corporation, to their operations, an ex-KGB team called Alpha Firm was earlier acquired by Defence Systems Limited.

That makes at least four teams which could have been used on 9/11.
Additional teams from the military could have been used as well.

Also Mass Electric Construction Co, a company specializing in wiring, was on the 84th floor of WTC2.

They had the means to do this.
* Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors.
* Marsh had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran-Contra and 78th floor had Baseline Financial who also did business with Rupert Murdoch.
* WTC7 contained a CIA office and Kroll and AIG are very closely related to the CIA and it is very likely that Kroll is the privatized version of the CIA
* The Pentagon was of course under their own control.

They had the opportunity to do this.

* AIG/Kroll/Marsh are closely connected to the Bush administration, to Henry Kissinger.
* AIG/Kroll/Marsh are also closely related to the Intelligence Community.
* AIG/Kroll/Marsh capitalized on 9/11 and it was good for their business.
* AIG was laundering drug money for al-Cokeda.
* AIG was involved in the oil and gas line to Afghanistan
* There is reason to believe that the Taliban either cut back on the drug trade or that they went into business for themselves. Either way the flow of heroin from Afghanistan was drastically limited.
* Greenberg and Khasshogi had a business relation and benefited for the narcotics from Afghanistan and had interest in the oil and gas line as well
* The Greenberg family and the Bush family are partners in fraud.
* Greenberg-Traurig played a major role in both the Election Fraud 2000, Election Fraud 2004 and is the personal law firm for Jeb Bush.
* The Office of Emergency Management was needed according to Rudolph Giuliani, so it could have been used for other purposes.

They had motive to do this.

Objectives:
There are main objectives to 9/11 and additional subgoals persuded that day. The main objectives are:
1. Enabling the war in Afghanistan for oil and drugs.
2. Bush administration gets an enormous popularity gain.
3. Enabling Homeland security.
4. Passing the Patriot Act.
5. Massive insurance fraud.
6. The missing trillions of the Pentagon.
7. Added later: War in Iraq (not part of the original plan)

Sub goals:
1. Elimination of competitors: Better position for Silverstream and Marsh in risk management by inviting all experts over the whole world to Windows of the World and eliminating some competitors in WTC.
2. Downsizing of Cantor/eSpeed.
3. Solve some "minor" problems for companies either in WTC or by inside trading.
4. Massive destruction of evidence in the Enron scandal, price inflation fraud for Silverstream, WorldCom, Global Crossing and many other scandals.
5. Hiding Pentagon projects like Global Hawk and TrailBlazer

9/11 and Iran-Contra
There are many similarities between 9/11 and Iran-Contra. One could even say that the same blue print was used and the terror event added as a quick justification of their goals

Objectives of Iran-Contra:
1. October Surprise: President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush
2. Guerrilla warfare in Central and South America
3. A war between Iraq and Iran

Objectives of 9/11:
1. Butterfly ballots, Vote spoilage, Greenberg-Traurig: President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney
2. A war with Afghanistan
3. Guerrilla warfare in Venezuela and Lebanon?

Bonuses (W. tries to double H.W.)
4. A war with Iraq
Quote:
Not in the original plan, however on September 12, 2001, George W. Bush told Richard A. Clarke: "Go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?tit..._A._Clarke
This is the probably reason why Germany, France and Canada bailed out, because they had given approval for Afghanistan and at least Germany played a part in the Venice scheme.
5. If you can rig one election, might as well take the next one also.
6. Iran? (option or coming soon...)

Why the Pentagon had to be included as well
Quote:
By Minstrel Boy

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They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy.
She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
I can't help it if I'm lucky. - Bob Dylan

(...) At least among those with a mind for such things, it's fairly well- remembered that on September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking announcement that the Pentagon "couldn't track" $2.3 trillion of its transactions. "Iroquois" observes, "What's interesting to me is that he made his press release on a Monday. In DC, I always see bad news given on a Friday, usually late in the afternoon on Friday. The exception, of course, would be when someone happens to know that there is a far bigger story coming out."

And we know that Flight 77, allegedly piloted by an incompetent, made an aerobatic, spiralling descent over Washington, effecting a 270-degree turn to strike the Pentagon from a western approach at ground level. The side struck was the only one with an exterior wall hardened against attack, and was relatively empty while renovation continued. (...)

http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/06/fligh...pital.html
Another reason may be to hide the significant costs of 9/11, because the missing trillions are pretty much the norm.
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99801
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99915
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99918

WTC building insurance and ownership
What were the 3 companies who insured the WTC?

AIG, Marsh and ACE. All run by Greenbergs at the time.

They then sold stakes of the original contract to their competition, a process called reinsuring. Once the towers came down, the reinsurers got caught holding the bag.

Who mortgaged the WTC? The Blackstone Group, headed by Peter J. Peterson, current head of the CFR. The Blackstone Group bought into Kroll in 1993 at the same time as AIG took majority control. Henry Kissinger sits on the board of the Blackstone Group.

On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Silverstein owned all the buildings. Later he wanted to collect twice on $3.6 billion of policies because it were two seperate events. Only ACE, XL Reach - strategic partners of AIG and currently owned by AIG - included a WilProp in their clauses, so Silverstein "only" got $5 billion.

Larry Silverstein
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"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

- World Trade Center lease holder, Larry Silverstein, commenting on the collapse of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds" that aired in September of 2002.

Or watch a video clip of them here:
* pfabf.com/uploads/larrysayspulli.wmv
* www.wtc7.net/pullit.html

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[Image: icon_minipost.gif]Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: My 9/11 investigation 9/11 hypothesis
In 1986 Paul Bremer was appointed Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism and started to develop all kinds of plans with possible terrorists events. Even though the plans appear to have been created to prevent terrorism there is also the likelyhood that they were created for false flag terrorist events. Paul Bremer has extensive connections to the neo-conversatives, Henry Kissinger and in 1999 he becomes chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism and also joins the board of directors at Marsh Inc.

He describes his time at National Commission on Terrorism as follows in an interview at the Heritage foundation (U.S. front for the international intelligence agency Le Cercle): "catastrophic terrorism ... in the event of a catastrophic attack ... tens of thousands of casualties, where the American people are going to be screaming for a response, that a President is going to want to consider using the military in some fashion ... the example we use is Pearl Harbor ..." Since Paul Bremer has made many similar remarks, there is reason to assume that he was one of the chief architects of 9/11.

Jerome Hauer worked in 1999 at the SAIC's Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis. One of his task was the design of the Office of Emergency Management, an emergency command center, which Rudy Giuliani wanted to have build on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center (WTC7). Even though everybody around Rudy Giuliani and Jerome Hauer ridiculed the "bunker" on the 23rd floor, the decision was made to build it.

Since this office has never been used for its intented purpose and a different command center was established and used at Pier 92, there is reason to believe that the Office of Emergency Management was used to coordinate the World Trade Center attacks since it could withstand anything and had a perfect view on both the towers and the area around World Trade Center. There is no better place and safer place to coordinate World Trade Center than the Office of Emergency Management.

Later Jerome Hauer started to work for Kroll, a company closely linked to Marsh and at present a subsidiary. Kroll has been named by at least governments as a CIA front organization or a privatized CIA.

The most vital part in the 9/11 plan was getting the correct government. There are very close links between the Greenberg family (AIG, Kroll, Marsh etc.) and the Bush family and they have participated in companies like Harken Energy, Texas Rangers and Trilateral Investments among others. The Greenbergs had their own law firm called Greenberg-Traurig, currently independent but probably still has very close links.

Greenberg-Traurig represents Governor Jeb Bush and has close links to Antonin Scalia, Jack Abramoff and they represented George W. Bush in the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida election vote recount which was vital in stopping the recount.

Adnan Khashoggi is believed to be the hidden owner of Huffman Aviation and playing a major role behind the scenes in al-Cokeda, the drug running part of the intelligence community to finance black operations. Florida election official Theresa LePore was a private stewardess of Khashoggi’s private plane. Theresa LePore is the mastermind behind the butterfly ballot which presumably lead to thousands of votes from Al Gore to go to Pat Buchanan.

ChoicePoint, the company which purged the Democratic posters from the voter role, wanted to merge with Kroll, however negotiations failed for unknown reasons. They were used in 9/11 as well for the identification of the victims and were at the scene almost instantly.

One of the major goals of 9/11 was enabling the war in Afghanistan. The planning of the war had started in 2000 and was related to both an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan and a diminished heroin flow. Officially the restrict opium trade was blamed on the Taliban's strict interpretation of Islamic Shari. There are reasons to believe that Afghanistan didn't supply al-Cokeda any more and wanted to go into business for themselves. The Greenberg family and Adnan Khashoggi were also involved in both the oil and gas line in Afghanistan and the heroin from Afghanistan.

The United States started secret negotiations in 2001 with Afghanistan to ensure the flow of heroin and for the development of an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan. The secret negotiations failed. In the summer of 2001 officials threatened war against Afghanistan and in July it was reported that if military action would take place, it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.

A lot of mergers and last moment preparations were taken place in New York. On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Marvin Pierce Bush makes sure that he is no longer connected to the security of the World Trade Center.

Kroll merged with Armor Holdings thus adding two more specialized teams to their company: Defence Systems Limited, a British Private Military Contractor who protects the British Queen among others and Alpha Firm, the former top-KGB team during the cold war. With that merger they had at least four teams in their company and probably the best teams as well. AIG international reinsured the WTC buildings and made sure that their competitors got most of the reinsurance.

Louis Freeh, the director of the FBI at the time, is more or less forced out of his position and the same is done with John O'Neill, the former top anti-terrorist specialist, who gets offered a job at the World Trade Center security.

A lot of companies move into the World Trade Center who have some scandals and some other companies move out of the World Trade Center at the last moment.

Three weeks prior to 9/11 inside trading with put-options starts and is mainly focused on American Airlines, United Airlines, Marsh and numerous insurance agencies and companies with offices in the World Trade Center. From Thursday before 9/11 it reaches historic levels and is a global event.

No investigation into inside trading is made even though it is solid evidence for 9/11 preknowledge. A Canadian list of 38 companies is published and lists many companies inside the World Trade Center, defense contractors, almost all major airlines and several other companies with connections to either AIG or Citigroup (WTC7 was mainly occupied by Salomon Smith Barney who is a part of Citigroup. Deutsche Bank was the biggest inside trader of the all and that is maybe because the US CEO, "Buzzy" Krongard, is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it.

Mass. Electric Construction, a wire specialist, is discovered on the 84th floor of WTC2 - who is not listed on any official tenant listing and never mentions that they were there - and there are about 200 electric engineers working in the World Trade Center around the time. The Pentagon construction was performed by AMEC. Both AMEC and Tully Construction play a major role in the clean up of Ground Zero and both have specialized Controlled Demolition companies. No links to AIG have been discovered upto now.

Several war games were being played during 9/11 including one by Mr. Fulton and his CIA team who were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.

9/11 started at WTC1, because that was on Marsh's own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. Rudy Giulani and all the others establish an emergency center at Pier 92.

In Rudy's own words for the 9/11 Commission: "The reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center."

The next attacks were at WTC2 and the Pentagon since both were more difficult. Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the Greenberg family especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes). The 767/757 scenario is very unlike. Either there were no planes or it were Global Hawk-like missile with a specific homing beacon in WTC/ Pentagon.

WTC1 and WTC2 were destroyed with a Controlled Demolition to hide any evidence and after the whole game had been played WTC7 was pulled also because it contained the command center for the attacks.

Rudi Giulani and his team immediately set out to ship off all the debris without any investigation. The Bush administration immediately blaims al-Qaeda for the attacks and wants to implicate Saddam Hussein as well for another war in Iraq. The attack is blamed on the drug dealers working for their own organizations since they were Arabs and could be used as Muslim extremists. The Bush administration had no intention of investigating 9/11 since any investigation could turn up wrong doing.

The bin Laden family and all the other Saudis were the only people allowed to fly out of the United States.

Edwin Meese and Paul Bremer co-chaired the Heritage Foundation's Homeland Security Task Force, which created a blueprint for the Department of Homeland Security and a company associated with Paul Bremer offering privatized Homeland Security already registered the required domain prior to 9/11. The Bush administration immediately approves of their plans.

The United States with support from many more nations, who are often featured in 9/11 as well, invaded Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 as part of its War on Terra campaign. It should be noted that it is completely impossible to launch a full scale war with extremely detailed plans on such a short notice. In 2002, Opium production was back to a pre-war level of 3,400 tons and the construction of the oil and gas pipeline had started.

Because of tremendous pressure to launch an investigation into 9/11, a commission headed by Henry Kissinger - a name featured in 9/11 as well - was proposed, however nobody trusts a guy for whom a case for Crimes against Humanity exists and who can't leave the United States anymore.

The Kean Commission was used instead with close links to Condi Rice, Warren Buffett and Fiduciary Trust (one of the companies in WTC2). The commission piles lie upon lie and Dr. David Ray Griffin has found 115 lies. Elias Davidsson has demonstrated with mathematical techniques that the official acccount on 9/11 is simply not true based on a limited of lies. Applying David Griffin's research would result in a probability of correctness which is astronomically small.

On March 20, 2003 a war against Iraq was launched based on the 9/11 attacks without any evidence of wrong doing. Paul Bremer later became the Ambassador of Iraq and under his reign the insurgency started to spin out of control.

This story is based on the investigation into 9/11 called Who Killed John O'Neill. Further reading and references are available on the thread above. This summary is about showing a plausible explanation of 9/11 based on the stories and facts discovered thus far.

Flights investigation
Flight 11
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100019
Flight 175
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100035
Flight 73
* www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html
Flight 93
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991
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[Image: icon_minipost.gif]Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: 2-J * 2 tons of coke in Paris (al-Cokeda as well?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94179

* 3/11 Madrid train bombing (Repsol versus Total. Terrorism to cover up of a coup. WTF? Can't be true, right...)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98201
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* 5.5 tons of coke in Mexico (Something's rotten in the town of Venice)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=93668
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94464
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94562
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www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=96065

* 7/7 (Oklahoma City - New York - Madrid - London. A truly global team)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98413
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98417
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98427

* 9/11 Commission (Independent commission? LMAO!)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97441

* 9/11 Encyclopedia
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97300

* 9/11 Inside traders
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97015
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96039
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532

* ACE Limited (Another Greenberg family member in insurance and 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97975
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96758
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97015
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97298

* Afghanistan (History)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95183
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96522
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99929

* Airlines (cartel / inside traitors)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268

* Airman Flight School (Baker/Hughes why does that name sound familiar?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97809

* Al-Cokeda Drugs (for black ops)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95415
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99524
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95793
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94255
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www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94645
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www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94977
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95233
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97642

* Alpha Firm (KGB enemies? Hell no, their former top team can join us)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96870

* Salvador Allende (The other 9/11. Some players are the same ?!)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97449

* Khalid Almihdhar (The terrorists who wasn't in the database)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97415

* American Airlines (Inside trader)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268

* American Bureau of Shipping (destruction of evidence)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97066

* American Express (Warren Buffett or Vernon Jordan or both??)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97497

* American International Group (Mother of all fraud)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96045
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96295
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543

* Anderson David & Cooper (Claim three dead, but don't exist)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98302

* Anthrax (Add some bio terrorism as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99805
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98416

* AMR Corporation (Senator David Boren and George Tenet??)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695

* AON Corporation (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96937

* Armor Holding (Two more teams for 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516

* Mohammed Atta (Terrorist or drug dealer?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94645
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94815
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94880

* Avid Technologies
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98593

* AXA (owner American Airlines. #2 global insurer)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215

* Bank of America (The partner of BCCI)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97286
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97442

* Baseline Financial (Did business with Rupert Murdoch. Need I say more?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97863

* James R. Bath (Bush's former buddy. Strange that the name of his company was similar)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=93984

* BEA Systems (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96305
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96384

* Todd Beamer (What kind of a strange family is this?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99979

* Bear Streans (Bush's best buddy: Harken Energy, Texas Rangers, Trilateral Investment and Clear Channel)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290

* Nick Berg (False flag?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734

* Blackstone Group (Let the competitor of AIG pay for the damage)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96732
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96741

* David Boren (George Tenet, AMR Corporation, Moussaoui and Nick Berg )
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97809

* Paul Bremer (Links to Marsh, Bush administration and HenryKissinger. Spider in the web)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828
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* Warren Buffett (Happened to invite a CEO at Bush's hide out)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97497

* Thomas E. Burnett (Peter Kellogg doing some inside trading with Thoratec Corp)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99987

* Bush family (Partners of Greenberg family. They can't possibly be involved, right?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96666
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* Buttonwood, the company that didn't exist
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97076

* Cantor/eSpeed (Major reorganization during 9/11)
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* Carnival/Carnivore Corporation (Also did a scam during Katrina)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97722

* CARR Futures (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96941

* Le Cercle / Pinay Circle (Clandestine NATO for black ops? The CIA is such a limited organization. Does it still exist?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99689

* Michael Cherkasky (Small cop at DA, WTC93, BCCI, Kroll and now CEO Marsh)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97356

* ChoicePoint (Wanted to merge with Kroll. The guys who purged the voter roles in 2000 and were at the scene at 9/11 for DNA identification of the victims)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97406
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97412
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97415

* Chubb Group (Competitor? With Oscar Fanjul on both boards of directors)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215

* CIA privatization (Independent, lawless, unrestricted. And they didn't even tell us)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95190
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* CIA rendition (How to use drug planes for other illegal things as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053

* Cigna group (Sold insurance part to Ace Ltd part of AIG and did inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97711

* Citigroup (Did we really sponsor Palestinian terrorists?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97293

* Clearstream (Off shore financial centers)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98249

* CNA Financial (Doesn't this CEO write extremely conservative columns as well?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97721

* Controlled Demolition (How come there were two companies at the scene who also specialize in controlled demolition)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95823
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98164

* Convar (How to buy a company to stop investigation into inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457
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www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97077

* Corporate Media (Catapulting the lies to the people)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100008

* Credit Suisse (Managing director had a meeting at the wrong time)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97899

* Defence System Limited (The UK top team was there as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516

* Deutsche Bank (They may sound German, but they are very buddy buddy with the CIA)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97974

* Doubles (How many Atta's were there?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94880

* Sibel Edmonds (Overheard Turkish intelligence talking about 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95475
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96292

* Electrical Contractors (There are many thing you can wire)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97589
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97566

* Enron (Destruction of evidence. Involvement of AIG)
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The previous post comes from Rigorous Intuition blog and it was originally posted on the Democratic Underground by Dr. DeBug DU. I was originally looking for information about Kroll Inc and came across it. It covers many areas and could just as well be filed under Money or Black Ops or Front Organisations etc. There is so much of interest there and a good 'big picture' view.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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While I don't agree with all of his hypothesis, I'd say this person has done some VERY good homework and thining - and has soem important parts of the general picture. The film Who Killed John O'Neill is interesting - if annoying in its soundtracked double-voicing. I followed some of the links Magda originally posted...and decided to post this one... There are some interesting new [to me] names [or old names in new associations] that need others to follow-up on....but a lot of the 'usual suspects' in the ongoing criminal conspiracy that is trying to rule America and the World. Khashoggi's name popped out at me [among others] - if he was connected, then there really is a link to the old Iran-Contra crowd; and they in turn back to the JFK Assassination [and so much else in between!]..... Though posted above, I repost this part below...but I question the 'no-plane' and a few other pieces of it.

9/11 hypothesis
Posted by DrDebug in September 11
Sat Jul 15th 2006, 07:01 PM
Main post: http://tinyurl.com/m5k7f Wiki view: http://tinyurl.com/jqqjv
9/11 hypothesis
In 1986 Paul Bremer was appointed Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism and started to develop all kinds of plans with possible terrorists events. Even though the plans appear to have been created to prevent terrorism there is also the likelyhood that they were created for false flag terrorist events. Paul Bremer has extensive connections to the neo-conversatives, Henry Kissinger and in 1999 he becomes chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism and also joins the board of directors at Marsh Inc.

He describes his time at National Commission on Terrorism as follows in an interview at the Heritage foundation (U.S. front for the international intelligence agency Le Cercle): "catastrophic terrorism ... in the event of a catastrophic attack ... tens of thousands of casualties, where the American people are going to be screaming for a response, that a President is going to want to consider using the military in some fashion ... the example we use is Pearl Harbor ..." Since Paul Bremer has made many similar remarks, there is reason to assume that he was one of the chief architects of 9/11.

Jerome Hauer worked in 1999 at the SAIC's Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis. One of his task was the design of the Office of Emergency Management, an emergency command center, which Rudy Giuliani wanted to have build on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center (WTC7). Even though everybody around Rudy Giuliani and Jerome Hauer ridiculed the "bunker" on the 23rd floor, the decision was made to build it.

Since this office has never been used for its intented purpose and a different command center was established and used at Pier 92, there is reason to believe that the Office of Emergency Management was used to coordinate the World Trade Center attacks since it could withstand anything and had a perfect view on both the towers and the area around World Trade Center. There is no better place and safer place to coordinate World Trade Center than the Office of Emergency Management.

Later Jerome Hauer started to work for Kroll, a company closely linked to Marsh and at present a subsidiary. Kroll has been named by at least governments as a CIA front organization or a privatized CIA.

The most vital part in the 9/11 plan was getting the correct government. There are very close links between the Greenberg family (AIG, Kroll, Marsh etc.) and the Bush family and they have participated in companies like Harken Energy, Texas Rangers and Trilateral Investments among others. The Greenbergs had their own law firm called Greenberg-Traurig, currently independent but probably still has very close links.

Greenberg-Traurig represents Governor Jeb Bush and has close links to Antonin Scalia, Jack Abramoff and they represented George W. Bush in the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida election vote recount which was vital in stopping the recount.

Adnan Khashoggi is believed to be the hidden owner of Huffman Aviation and playing a major role behind the scenes in al-Cokeda, the drug running part of the intelligence community to finance black operations. Florida election official Theresa LePore was a private stewardess of Khashoggi’s private plane. Theresa LePore is the mastermind behind the butterfly ballot which presumably lead to thousands of votes from Al Gore to go to Pat Buchanan.

ChoicePoint, the company which purged the Democratic posters from the voter role, wanted to merge with Kroll, however negotiations failed for unknown reasons. They were used in 9/11 as well for the identification of the victims and were at the scene almost instantly.

One of the major goals of 9/11 was enabling the war in Afghanistan. The planning of the war had started in 2000 and was related to both an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan and a diminished heroin flow. Officially the restrict opium trade was blamed on the Taliban's strict interpretation of Islamic Shari. There are reasons to believe that Afghanistan didn't supply al-Cokeda any more and wanted to go into business for themselves. The Greenberg family and Adnan Khashoggi were also involved in both the oil and gas line in Afghanistan and the heroin from Afghanistan.

The United States started secret negotiations in 2001 with Afghanistan to ensure the flow of heroin and for the development of an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan. The secret negotiations failed. In the summer of 2001 officials threatened war against Afghanistan and in July it was reported that if military action would take place, it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.

A lot of mergers and last moment preparations were taken place in New York. On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Marvin Pierce Bush makes sure that he is no longer connected to the security of the World Trade Center.

Kroll merged with Armor Holdings thus adding two more specialized teams to their company: Defence Systems Limited, a British Private Military Contractor who protects the British Queen among others and Alpha Firm, the former top-KGB team during the cold war. With that merger they had at least four teams in their company and probably the best teams as well. AIG international reinsured the WTC buildings and made sure that their competitors got most of the reinsurance.

Louis Freeh, the director of the FBI at the time, is more or less forced out of his position and the same is done with John O'Neill, the former top anti-terrorist specialist, who gets offered a job at the World Trade Center security.

A lot of companies move into the World Trade Center who have some scandals and some other companies move out of the World Trade Center at the last moment.

Three weeks prior to 9/11 inside trading with put-options starts and is mainly focused on American Airlines, United Airlines, Marsh and numerous insurance agencies and companies with offices in the World Trade Center. From Thursday before 9/11 it reaches historic levels and is a global event.

No investigation into inside trading is made even though it is solid evidence for 9/11 preknowledge. A Canadian list of 38 companies is published and lists many companies inside the World Trade Center, defense contractors, almost all major airlines and several other companies with connections to either AIG or Citigroup (WTC7 was mainly occupied by Salomon Smith Barney who is a part of Citigroup. Deutsche Bank was the biggest inside trader of the all and that is maybe because the US CEO, "Buzzy" Krongard, is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it.

Mass. Electric Construction, a wire specialist, is discovered on the 84th floor of WTC2 - who is not listed on any official tenant listing and never mentions that they were there - and there are about 200 electric engineers working in the World Trade Center around the time. The Pentagon construction was performed by AMEC. Both AMEC and Tully Construction play a major role in the clean up of Ground Zero and both have specialized Controlled Demolition companies. No links to AIG have been discovered upto now.

Several war games were being played during 9/11 including one by Mr. Fulton and his CIA team who were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.

9/11 started at WTC1, because that was on Marsh's own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. Rudy Giulani and all the others establish an emergency center at Pier 92.

In Rudy's own words for the 9/11 Commission: "The reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center."

The next attacks were at WTC2 and the Pentagon since both were more difficult. Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the Greenberg family especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes). The 767/757 scenario is very unlike. Either there were no planes or it were Global Hawk-like missile with a specific homing beacon in WTC/ Pentagon.

WTC1 and WTC2 were destroyed with a Controlled Demolition to hide any evidence and after the whole game had been played WTC7 was pulled also because it contained the command center for the attacks.

Rudi Giulani and his team immediately set out to ship off all the debris without any investigation. The Bush administration immediately blaims al-Qaeda for the attacks and wants to implicate Saddam Hussein as well for another war in Iraq. The attack is blamed on the drug dealers working for their own organizations since they were Arabs and could be used as Muslim extremists. The Bush administration had no intention of investigating 9/11 since any investigation could turn up wrong doing.

The bin Laden family and all the other Saudis were the only people allowed to fly out of the United States.

Edwin Meese and Paul Bremer co-chaired the Heritage Foundation's Homeland Security Task Force, which created a blueprint for the Department of Homeland Security and a company associated with Paul Bremer offering privatized Homeland Security already registered the required domain prior to 9/11. The Bush administration immediately approves of their plans.

The United States with support from many more nations, who are often featured in 9/11 as well, invaded Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 as part of its War on Terra campaign. It should be noted that it is completely impossible to launch a full scale war with extremely detailed plans on such a short notice. In 2002, Opium production was back to a pre-war level of 3,400 tons and the construction of the oil and gas pipeline had started.

Because of tremendous pressure to launch an investigation into 9/11, a commission headed by Henry Kissinger - a name featured in 9/11 as well - was proposed, however nobody trusts a guy for whom a case for Crimes against Humanity exists and who can't leave the United States anymore.

The Kean Commission was used instead with close links to Condi Rice, Warren Buffett and Fiduciary Trust (one of the companies in WTC2). The commission piles lie upon lie and Dr. David Ray Griffin has found 115 lies. Elias Davidsson has demonstrated with mathematical techniques that the official acccount on 9/11 is simply not true based on a limited of lies. Applying David Griffin's research would result in a probability of correctness which is astronomically small.

On March 20, 2003 a war against Iraq was launched based on the 9/11 attacks without any evidence of wrong doing. Paul Bremer later became the Ambassador of Iraq and under his reign the insurgency started to spin out of control.

This story is based on the investigation into 9/11 called Who Killed John O'Neill. Further reading and references are available on the thread above. This summary is about showing a plausible explanation of 9/11 based on the stories and facts discovered thus far.

Flights investigation
Flight 11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
Flight 175
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
Flight 77
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight...
Flight 93
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9/11 is such a huge topic. so many threads, sources, boooks, videos, dead ends, false leads, disinfo, etc. (and I've backed off looking at it with ther intensity I used to), but in reviewing the above, the name ChoicePoint jumped off the screen at me screaming that something was missing. I checked in with my head and the name Hank Asher came to mind. You can Google him up and begin refreshing memories and databanks. In doing a little googling of my own just now, plus a quick search of the old 9/11 threads at CGCS [http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/f...wforum=281 ], and I found what was tickling my synapses.

There was a theory noted in a comment over at Rigorous Intuition (which I used to read religiously until the fellow got deep into his second book) which I re-posted Oct 11 2006.

The RI link noted was
http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/10/fight...l#comments.

Here's the relevant text from CGCS, which followed references to artistic descriptions of un-ease or dis-ease as a result of prior abuse, notably one by Sinead O'Connor:

"Mark Foley, we know, had been the co-chair of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, which was formed to provide federal assistance to the National Center of the same name. Its Board of Directors includes Floridian cocaine smuggler Hank Asher who founded the corporation which purged his state's voter rolls in 2000. [See http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/05/h...and-voting.html and http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hank_Asher ]

In 2003 [Asher] was hired to help identify potential terrorists for Florida's Department of Law Enforcement. ("This has been highly controversial, largely because of Asher's alleged past links to drug smuggling.") Foley himself played a leading role in suppressing the hand recount. So what are such men with such histories, and in such a state as Florida, doing orbiting about the issue of missing and exploited children?

(And it may be more curious still. A poster on the RI forum links Foley with Bush family favourite Mel Sembler's juvenille mind control enterprise "Straight," and connects Straight to Paul Bishop of the Johnny Gosch snake pit.) [See http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005...defense_08.html and http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005...reat-satan.html ]

"Don't get distracted - stay focused" - a lot of Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow Democrats will be saying that more than usual this month. Many of them think Foley represents a distraction, albeit a happy one. But perhaps it's the election itself that distracts Americans with a shiny hoax battlefield, away from the real war they would know better if they would heed the dis-ease of their storytellers."

The search link that re-disclosed that text is
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/f...pid=628455 .



That said, http://911research.wtc7.net/ and http://www.oilempire.us/ always struck me as definitive and solid sites, as well as the archival work done at History Commons: http://www.historycommons.org/project.js...11_project .
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