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Colonia Dignidad: Chile's Nazi colony
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:The explanation of the apparently positive DNA test is the body tested was a deceased relative of Bormann's.


As far as I know, a "deceased relative" cannot be mistaken for another person in a DNA analysis (unless they are identical twins). If a mix-up like that cannot happen by mistake, you would have to claim that the renowned German scientist who performed the analysis knowingly altered the evidence. This seems a stretch.

I am certainly not ruling anything out, but unless I am convinced otherwise, I remain sceptical.
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#52
Ralf Anders Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:Crazy fool that I am, I also now consider the evidence that Hitler & Braun survived the war and escaped to Argentina to be established.

I know that you are not a "crazy fool". Nevertheless I find both scenarios hard to believe. I am well aware of the power of received wisdom and the shortcomings of the official narrative, i.e. that TPTB lie to us most of the time, but do not exclude the possibility that our institutions may actually speak the truth to us every once in a while.

Have you read this thread Ralf? https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...ull+female
FWIW many of my South American friends take it as a fact of life that Hitler survived and lived there. There are large areas colonised by Germans in the South of Chile and Argentina. They have been off limits to the local population except for some workers. Outsiders are not welcome at all and will be challenged if they enter.
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#53
I would just add that Paraguay has long had a huge % of its population that ONLY speaks/spoke German and tends to live in enclaves away from the Spanish or Indigenous-speaking populations.
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#54
Yes, indeed, even parts of Brazil. All the Condor files were stored in Paraguay.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

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#55
Ralf Anders Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:I have read all the Bormann books and the evidence is now overwhelming that he did survive. Paul Manning's Bormann, Nazi in Exile that linked (free download) by R K Locke above is excellent. So too are William Stevenson's The Bormann Brotherhood (which probably is also free available to download), and Ladislas Farago's Aftermath - although Farago was silly to trust Allen Dulles as a source, since Dulles screwed him by providing a picture of Bormann in Argentina in the post war years for publication in his book that was later proved to be false. Also, one of Hugh Thomas's (the former surgeon and forensic expert - not the historian) books, and I now forget which one (but not the Himmler or Rudolf Hess - so must be the Hitler & Eva Braun one I guess) publishes Paraguayan intelligence or police files that reveal Bormann died in Paraguay (but I can't now remember the date, but believe it was late 1970's??).

So much propaganda and lies have been written about Bormann's supposed death in Berlin in 1945, and any stories attacking this authorized version of history have been so ruthlessly attacked (where possible) that one has to conclude that Bormann's survival is not just something that Germany had to keep secret but the US too. If this is the case, and I believe it to be, then it is hard not to conclude that Bormann either had information that would badly embarrass both nations, or he and his Brotherhood had worked with both nations in the final days of the war and/or post war.

Crazy fool that I am, I also now consider the evidence that Hitler & Braun survived the war and escaped to Argentina to be established.

I know that you are not a "crazy fool". Nevertheless I find both scenarios hard to believe. I am well aware of the power of received wisdom and the shortcomings of the official narrative, i.e. that TPTB lie to us most of the time, but do not exclude the possibility that our institutions may actually speak the truth to us every once in a while.

If I find the time I will check out the sources you and Mr. Locke mention. Thank you very much.

I think you'll find the material and evidence presented is convincing. I think on Bormann that Paul Manning's is the foremost. Manning was no fool and an award winning journalist of his day. He personally met "Gestapo" Muller, Bormann's head of security, to discuss an actual meeting with Bormann for the book. In the end Bormann declined to meet. But, of course, officially Muller died at the end of WWII. Manning also was the first one to publish the so called "Red House" document, which was the meeting of high ranking Nazi's in August 1944 at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg to beat out the Nazi capital flight programme to ensure that Germany would arise after the war as an economic power.

You might also get a copy of Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler, by Simon Dunstan and Gerrard Williams - both of whom are well respected. Or were anyway. Both have been vilified for the publishing book, even by their publisher who clearly buckled under pressure. Being the weird person I am, I find that to be just additional evidence that both authors were on the right track, because the degree of vilification and criticism was massive, and therefore, I ask the obvious question, why? What's to hide? Manning's book on Bormann will provide the reason why, I think.
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#56
Ralf Anders Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The explanation of the apparently positive DNA test is the body tested was a deceased relative of Bormann's.


As far as I know, a "deceased relative" cannot be mistaken for another person in a DNA analysis (unless they are identical twins). If a mix-up like that cannot happen by mistake, you would have to claim that the renowned German scientist who performed the analysis knowingly altered the evidence. This seems a stretch.

I am certainly not ruling anything out, but unless I am convinced otherwise, I remain sceptical.

Hugh Thomas is a really very careful man. His first book, about the murder of Rudolf Hess by two British agents dressed as US guards (and Thomas was Hess's doctor at Spandau prison and knew him well) was always disbelieved, but in the last few years he has been pretty much vindicated:

Quote:Adolf Hitler's Nazi deputy Rudolf Hess murdered by British agents' to stop him spilling wartime secrets

Surgeon claims Hess was killed on British orders to preserve wartime secrets



[Image: p19hessHULTON.jpg]the classified document outlines a highly-sensitive inquiry into the claims that the elderly Nazi was killed on British orders to preserve wartime secrets Hulton ArchiveScotland Yard was given the names of British agents who allegedly murdered the Nazi Rudolf Hess in the infamous Spandau Prison but was advised by prosecutors not to pursue its investigations, according to a newly-released police report.
Written two years after Hess's death in 1987, the classified document outlines a highly-sensitive inquiry into the claims of a British surgeon who had once treated Adolf Hitler's deputy that, rather than taking his own life, the elderly Nazi was killed on British orders to preserve wartime secrets.
Released under the Freedom of Information Act, the partially-redacted report by Detective Chief Superintendent Howard Jones revealed that the surgeon - Hugh Thomas - had supplied him with the names of two suspects provided by a "government employee" responsible for training secret agents.
Withheld for nearly 25 years, the report has been released by the Yard's counter-terrorism command following consultation with "other Government and foreign government departments".
The death of Hess in Berlin at the age of 93 after he apparently hung himself with a wire flex in a summer house in the grounds of Spandau has long been controversial with claims that he was too infirm to commit suicide and a farewell note to his family had in fact been written 20 years earlier.
The Yard was called in in 1989 after Mr Thomas, an eminent former military surgeon previously based in Spandau, claimed in a book that "Hess" was in fact an impostor sent by the Nazis to Britain in 1941 and his murder was carried out by two British assassins disguised as American serviceman.
In his subsequent 11-page report, Mr Jones said the surgeon had "confidentially imparted" the names of two alleged suspects passed to him by an informant who was a former member of the SAS and had since taken on a role "training people for undercover or spying operations".
Prior to his death, speculation had been growing that Hess might be released because a long-standing veto by the Soviet Union, which for decades had insisted on a severe regime for Hess, including forcing him to wash his hands in toilet bowl, might be reversed by Mikhail Gorbachev.
Mr Jones wrote: "[Mr Thomas] had received information that two assassins had been ordered on behalf of the British Government to kill Hess in order that he should not be released and free to expose secrets concerning the plot to overthrow the Churchill government."
The officer found there was not "much substance" to Mr Thomas's claims of murder but suggested that efforts should be made to trace and interview the alleged killers along with other witnesses to ensure the matter could be "comprehensively adjudged" to have been fully investigated.
It is not known if the two suspects were tracked down after the report was submitted to the Crown Prosecution Service in May 1989.
But within six months the investigation was declared closed after the then Director of Public of Prosecutions, Sir Allan Green QC, advised that further inquiries were not necessary.
In November 1989, Sir Nicholas Lyell, the solicitor general, told Parliament: "The inquiries carried out by Detective Chief Superintendent Jones have produced no cogent evidence to suggest that Rudolf Hess was murdered; nor, on the view of the Director of Public Prosecutions, is there any basis for further investigation."
The unannounced arrival of Hess in Britain was one of the strangest incidents of the Second World War and remains the subject of extensive debate about its motivation, including whether it was an ill-judged attempt to unseat Winston Churchill by enlisting aristocrats with Nazi sympathies.
After flying solo to Scotland in 1941, Hitler's deputy fuhrer parachuted to the ground and, after being taken into custody at pitchfork-point by an astonished ploughman, declared his intention to negotiate a peace with Britain to form an alliance against Stalin's Soviet Union.
Hess was sentenced to life imprisonment as a war criminal at the Nuremberg Trials and incarcerated in Spandau along with other prominent Nazis including Albert Speer. From 1966 onwards, Hitler's deputy - whose Allied guards were required to only address him as Prisoner Seven - was the sole inmate in the 600-cell prison.
Further doubt was claimed to have been cast last year on the circumstances of Hess's suicide when photographs emerged of the summer house where he died, showing the short distance - some 5ft - between the cord from which he was found hanging and the floor.
His son, Wolf, had previously insisted that the height was insufficient for his father, crippled by arthritis, to hang himself and added to post mortem examination evidence suggesting a full noose had been placed around his neck.
In his report, Mr Jones dismissed such concerns, saying expert advice showed Hess's injuries were consistent with an "unusual hanging situation".

From The Independent.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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#57
Magda Hassan Wrote:I'm interested in the links to German CSU, Mertins and MEREX if you have more Ralf.

I cannot address the CSU/Strauss/Hanns-Seidel-Foundation/BND connections right now. Bit off more than I can chew...

Here is a by no means complete rundown on Gerhard Mertins, founder of the "Circle of Friends of the Colonia Dignidad", and his Merex company. Please feel free to repost this in the "Players, organisations and events of deep politics" section.

(Please note: As I had misplaced my copy of Ken Silverstein's "Private Warriors" until yesterday, I will extensively quote from Andrew Feinstein's "The Shadow World. Inside the Global Arms Trade". Feinstein, however, is mainly paraphrasing Silverstein who did the original work.)


Gerhard Mertins (1919-1993) was, according to Romano Mussolini's biography of his father, one of the three SS officers who freed Benito Mussolini. The German Wikipedia quotes Romano Mussolini: "For more than sixty years, my father´s liberation from Gran Sasso was attributed solely to Skorzeny, even though Mors and Mertins played crucial roles."


Excerpts from Andrew Feinstein, "The Shadow World. Inside the Global Arms Trade" (London, 2012), 19-34. Excerpts may be slightly rearranged to fit the chronology:

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Despite appearing a happy, easy-going man, always ready to help, Mertins was also shrewd and 'cheated everybody', according to a close associate.

(...) Soon after the war he took up a position at Volkswagen, a company with an impeccable Nazi pedigree. Little is known about his activities until the early 1950s, although it is almost certain that he kept curious company. According to US Army Intelligence documents, Mertins was the leader of the Bremen branch of the Green Devils, a group of Second World War parachutists agitating for a rearmed Germany. The branch included a number of suspected war criminals.

(...). Closely connected to neo-Nazis of all stripes and unrepentant about his right-wing views, Mertins was more than comfortable with the considerable neo-Nazi sentiment evident in Germany after the war. For instance, he invited Otto Ernst Remer, founder of the Socialist Reich Party (SRP) in 1950, to address members of his veterans' group in Bremen. The SRP's platform was almost indistinguishable from Hitler's and included denial of the Holocaust. (...)

Mertins was considered to be an important SRP sympathizer who US intelligence believed 'will aid the party financially'.

(...) In September 1952, he travelled to Egypt to participate in a bizarre project that was to provide an entrée to the world of arms dealing. (...) The response [to Egypt's defeat in the 1948 war with Israel] of the then Egyptian ruler, King Farouk, was to hire a number of ex-military Germans to assist in training his troops, allegedly with the tacit support of both the CIA and Gehlen Org. When Mertins arrived in Egypt in September 1951 he became a top aide to one of the group's leaders, the former Wehrmacht General Wilhelm Fahrmbacher, like Mertins a recipient of the Knight's Cross.

When the young General Gamal Abdel Nasser led a coup aginst King Farouk in July 1952, he turned to the Germans who had been training his erstwhile enemy's forces to create his own intelligence and security network in order to consolidate power. (...) the German detachment set about their new task, still with the backing of the CIA and Gehlen Org. The training was led by Otto Skorzeny, a notoriuous ex-Nazi who had been part of an elite unit that helped Mussolini escape from Allied jails during the war. Skorzeny (...) joined the like-minded Spanish dictator, General Francisco Franco. Skorzeny set himself up as an agent for various Spanish arm companies, most notably ALFA. Mertins was in contact with him in 1954 to discuss a potential arms deal that Skorzeny was negotiating with Mertins.

(...) Mertins left his Egyptian posting but remained active in the Middle East during the mid-1950s. He trained parachute regiments in Syria and worked as a sales agent for a number of German firms throughout the region. (...)

As a result of his activities in the region, Mertins was considered a potentially useful intelligence asset. He was approached by US Army Intelligence during the mid-50s and immediately put on the payroll. His job was to provide his new friends with information about the Middle East gleaned from his work as a salesman. It was the first time, but certainly not the last, that Mertins made money from his relationship with the intelligence services.

Mertins returned to Germany in the late 1950s (...) Reinhard Gehlen asked Mertins to act as the middleman for German arms sales to the Third World. Gehlen would assist Mertins with intelligence about potential clients and help him to arrange the necessary papers -- end-user certificates and export licences which are essential to any arms deal.

Germany at the time was hoping to remilitarize. The thinking was that in addition to using arms to peddle influence, selling its old surplus stock would raise much-needed money for new arms purchases. For this purpose, in 1963 Mertins established a new company, Merex, which was jointly based in Bonn and Vevey in Switzerland. (...)

The company boss soon forged a crucial new contract to add to his large intelligence network. In 1965, Merex was hired as the German sales agent for Interarms, the International Armament Corporation run by the infamous Sam Cummings, who was sometimes referred to as the 'new Zaharoff' (...). He had formed Interarms in 1953 at the tender age of twenty-six and proceeded to make a fortune with help from the CIA. In 1954. he undertook his first major CIA-sponsored mission, to supply arms to a right-wing coup in Guatemala. (...)

Together, Mertins and Cummings were a formidable arms-dealing force. (...)

The following year [1966] Merex sealed a series of controversial deals that would almost spell an end to Mertins' nascent career as an arms dealer. Zaharoff-like, he sold fighter planes to both sides in South Asia, one of the world's less stable regions at the time. (...)

Selling to Pakistan during a period of conflict was a violation of US and international law.Congressional hearings were held under the chairmanship of Senator Stuart Symington. Mertins was not called, but instead met Senator Symington [Silverstein: and Senator Fulbright] privately.But Sam Cummings was forced to appear before the assembled politicians, where he confirmed Symington's astonishing finding that 'our own intelligence services knew exactly at that time that these F-86s were meant for Pakistan'.

As Congress was holding hearings into the Pakistan deal, the FBI was investigating whether Merex should be registered as an agent of the West German government. After considerable paperwork had been collected indicating that Merex was in constant contact with the US Departments of State and Defense, Army Intelligence intervened to ensure that the company was not registered as an agent, lest it lose its secrecy and anonymity: 'The Army has opposed registration of Merex or Mertins (as a former agent) on any basis which could jeopardize [their] continued use.'

With US Army Intelligence in his corner, Mertins decided to establish an American branch. Merex Corporation was set up in a home in Bethesda, Maryland, just north of Washington DC.

The opening of the US branch was the final nail in the coffin of the brief but profitable relationship between Mertins and Sam Cummings, which had begun to sour after the Pakistan deal became public. Previously, Interarms had acted as Mertins's agent in the US, but this was no longer necessary.

(...)

Mertins installed a close friend, Gerhard Bausch [Silverstein has the correct spelling: Bauch], as the CEO and president of the company, although Merex Corp remained entirely owned by the European business.

(...) Mertins's relationship with German Intelligence cooled after the Pakistan deal, for which he eventually faced criminal charges.

(...)

His defence team claimed that his dealings in Pakistan were at the explicit behest of the German government. Mertins explained his relation to the German intelligence netework, BND, and the judge found little to discredit his evidence, especially after a BND operative testified that the government was almost always aware of what Mertins had done in Pakistan, as part of a project codenamed Uranus.

With his German government links in a fragile state, Mertins began to pursue other avenues and continents in search of new sales. In some cases he was helped by connections to US Intelligence. (...)

But it was in South America where Mertins was able to secure most of his new deals, using, once again, his enduring Nazi connections. In Peru, Mertins appointed Commercial Agricola as Merex's local representative in the country. The company was run by Fritz [better: Friedrich] Schwend, who, during the Second World War, had been part of Operation Bernhard, a madcap scheme to undermine the British economy by flooding the UK market with masses of counterfeit pounds. Schwend had, like many Nazis, escaped post-war justice and settled in Peru. He and Mertins were assisted by Otto Skorzeny. Skorzeny struck up a close relationship with Peruvian Intelligence, which led to a request for M14 tanks.

Mertins's South American network included other, even more extreme, Nazis, such as Hans Rudel and Klaus Barbie. (...)

After the war, Barbie worked for US Intelligence before settling in Bolivia. (...) Barbie's depraved skills proved useful to Bolivia's military dictators.

During the reign of Hugo Banzer, Barbie was hired to set up internment camps for political opponents, where torture and executions were common. Usefully for Mertins, Barbie also became the dictatorship's official weapons-purchasing agent. (...)

Mertins's deepest and most profitable connection in South America was with Chile. Merex first entered the Chilean market in 1971 when Gerhard Bausch travelled to the country to sell $800,000 of bridles and saddles to the Chilean cavalry, as well as 20,000 rounds of ammunition. Their point-man was an influential and ambitious General, Augusto Pinochet, who took over power in an infamous coup two years later,suipported by the US and in which the democratically elected President, Salvador Allende, was either murdered or committed suicide. Mertins was delighted that the country was in the hands of a virulently anti-communist strongman and frequently travelled to Chile, where he witnessed Pinochet's propensity for violence and torture. During these visits Mertins often stayed at Colonia Doignidad, a German community camp based in the South Andes. He was so impressed with the colony that he formed the Circle of Friends in Germany to raise funds for it.

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[Mertins also was in contact with the Chinese "military parastatal" NORINCO and Saddam Hussein. He had a long-standing relationship with the Iranian SAVAK. He dealt with the Contras and the Taliban. In 1975 he met with DINA leader Manuel Contreras who had come to Germany under a false name. Together they travelled on to Iran.]

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Excerpts from Ken Silverstein, "Private Warriors" (New York, London, 2000), 109-141:

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"Mertins's governmental clients ranged from Chile's Augusto Pinochet to Iraq's Saddam Hussein."

"While by no means as integral to US agencies as Glatt, Mertins, who died in 1993 had a four-decade long relationship with American intelligence and sometimes worked in conjunction with government operations. Like Glatt, he procured Russian made arms for the secret Foreign Materiel Acquistion Program. He was also involved in arming the 'freedom fighters', including a controversial deal Oliver North's Enterprise arranged for the Contras. As one retired intelligence officer said of Mertins's role as an American asset, which until now has never been disclosed: 'You were either so high up that you didn't say anything about him or too low to know.'"

[In Egypt working for Nasser:]

"Mertins was on cordial terms with some of the more extreme Nazi elements. A US Army intelligence report from December 1954 notes that Skorzeny -- in his role as representative of the Spanish weapons manufacturer ALFA -- had been in contact with Mertins about an arms deal he was negotiating with Nasser's regime."

[After Mertins's return from Egypt and a brief stint in Saudi Arabia training paratroopers:]

"(...) Mertins extablished Merex in Vevey, Switzerland in 1963. According to German writer Heinz Vielain (...) he became engaged in the weapons business at the request of Reinhard Gehlen. (...) Vielain says that Gehlen wanted to secretly arm selected Third World nations as a means of keeping them in the Western camp but -- due to political sensitivities and the need to evade arms export laws that banned sales to regions of conflict -- needed a cut to carry out the transactions."

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More information about the Bolivian connection, i.e. Klaus Barbie, can be found in Peter Hammerschmidt, "Deckname Adler. Klaus Barbie und die westlichen Geheimdienste." ('Cover name Adler. Klaus Barbie and the Western intelligence services'). But really, Mertins knew everybody: Barbie, Friedrich Schwend, Walter Rauff, Hans-Ulrich Rudel, who knows, perhaps even Mengele.


It is interesting to note that some, if not most, of the weapons used by neo-fascist terrorists in Italy came from Germany. At least, this is what Gerhard Feldbauer claims in "Von Mussolini zu Fini. Die extreme Rechte in Italien" ('From Mussolini to Fini. The Extreme Right in Italy').

http://www.nadir.org/nadir/kampagnen/owl...dbauer.pdf


According to Michael Townley, Stefano delle Chiaie used the pseudonym ALFA when Townley recruited him for Condor. ALFA is the name of the most important of the Spanish weapons manufacturers Skorzeny represented.


If I find the time, I will provide some comments on the information given above.
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#58
Parts 3 and 4 of this series touch on some of these same subjects/individuals:

http://spitfirelist.com/anti-fascist-arc...-the-pope/
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
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#59
"General Augusto Pinochet directly ordered the 1976 assassination of a Chilean diplomat who was killed in a car bomb in Washington DC, according top secret US intelligence documents declassified by the Obama administration.


The documents, which were handed to the Chilean president, Michelle Bachelet, on Tuesday in Santiago by the US secretary of state, John Kerry, also show that the former dictator was so concerned with covering up his role in the murder that he planned to assassinate his own head of intelligence, General Manuel Contreras."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oc...classified
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#60
Manuel Contreras died just recently, which is a shame as so many secrets went with him to the grave and he evaded justice for so many needing it.
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"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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