The space between the brows and the flare of the nose do not match.
Jack
Inconclusive, except that the widow says that it was her husband there at the corner of Main and Houston. Or are Mrs. Adams's strings being pulled from Langley?
Those are the same kinds of terms that come to my mind, as well. And the
more the evidence is subject to scrutiny, alas, the worse your position looks.
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:
Jack White Wrote:Adams "plaque".
Jack:
For God's sake, can we stop calling the bloody thing a plaque, in quotes or not?
Do you believe that this is part of CIA attempt to provide Lucien Conein with plausible deniability? (The plausible deniability would be applicable -- of course -- only to people visiting the Adams residence familiar with the webpage titled Familiar Faces in Dealey Plaza. Perhaps for afternoon tea?)
I can scarcely believe that I am having this discussion. Feathers/waddles/quacks comes to mind.
James H. Fetzer Wrote:Those are the same kinds of terms that come to my mind, as well. And the
more the evidence is subject to scrutiny, alas, the worse your position looks.
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:
Jack White Wrote:Adams "plaque".
Jack:
For God's sake, can we stop calling the bloody thing a plaque, in quotes or not?
Do you believe that this is part of CIA attempt to provide Lucien Conein with plausible deniability? (The plausible deniability would be applicable -- of course -- only to people visiting the Adams residence familiar with the webpage titled Familiar Faces in Dealey Plaza. Perhaps for afternoon tea?)
I can scarcely believe that I am having this discussion. Feathers/waddles/quacks comes to mind.
Oh yeah? To whom? I wish we could take a vote on that. I am still waiting for you to inform us as to whom I was induced by.
On giving this deep, careful, penetrating, analytical consideration, I think I get it. I was probably induced by the same CIA agent who induced Mrs. Adams to hang the picture frame on her wall, on the off-chance that Frank Caplett would visit some day.
For God's sake, can we stop calling the bloody thing a plaque, in quotes or not?
Do you believe that this is part of CIA attempt to provide Lucien Conein with plausible deniability? (The plausible deniability would be applicable -- of course -- only to people visiting the Adams residence familiar with the webpage titled Familiar Faces in Dealey Plaza. Perhaps for afternoon tea?)
I can scarcely believe that I am having this discussion. Feathers/waddles/quacks comes to mind.
Allan...Please correct any of my memories below which are untrue.
1. Allan initially identified a man in Altgens 4 as being Lucien Conein.
2. Allan in support of his identification supplied a photo he identified as Conein.
3. Allan later said, no, someone told me that it shows a man named Adams.
4. Allan said the man's family has a plaque identifying Adams in a news photo.
5. Allan obtained and distributed many photos of Adams.
6. Allan said the man's family identified him in the news photo.
Am I correct that ALL information concerning this came from you, as above?
You and I have never personally met, correct? How do I know you are the
real Allan Eaglesham, and not an imposter?
Since you at times have argued both positions, should we entertain the
possibility of TWO ALLANS?
Thanks Jack for that photo of the Adams' caption to the Altgens pic. The font used for the mid-section mention of Adams is different, clearly a cut-n-paste job, to tout Adams in the pic. My interpretation remains the common sense one: it was done on behalf of Adams family/household pride, though others tout a possible if incredible CIA conspiracy to hang that framed pic (of Conein allegedly, not Adams) with caption in the Adams' hallway for years!? I didn't know the intel agencies were that thorough and far-sighted! It's really scary. I wonder if they put their pants on one leg at a time?
For God's sake, can we stop calling the bloody thing a plaque, in quotes or not?
Do you believe that this is part of CIA attempt to provide Lucien Conein with plausible deniability? (The plausible deniability would be applicable -- of course -- only to people visiting the Adams residence familiar with the webpage titled Familiar Faces in Dealey Plaza. Perhaps for afternoon tea?)
I can scarcely believe that I am having this discussion. Feathers/waddles/quacks comes to mind.
Allan...Please correct any of my memories below which are untrue.
1. Allan initially identified a man in Altgens 4 as being Lucien Conein.
2. Allan in support of his identification supplied a photo he identified as Conein.
3. Allan later said, no, someone told me that it shows a man named Adams.
4. Allan said the man's family has a plaque identifying Adams in a news photo.
5. Allan obtained and distributed many photos of Adams.
6. Allan said the man's family identified him in the news photo.
Am I correct that ALL information concerning this came from you, as above?
You and I have never personally met, correct? How do I know you are the
real Allan Eaglesham, and not an imposter?
Since you at times have argued both positions, should we entertain the
possibility of TWO ALLANS?
Jack
Almost correct, Jack.
I don't think I firmly identified any of the look-alikes. Martha and I were careful in our terms of reference.
And when Frank Caplett provided me with new information, and new photographic evidence that showed beyond a reasonable doubt -- to anyone reasonable -- that the Conein look-alike on the corner of Main and Houston was, in fact, Robert Adams, I shared that information on my Website.
And took sh*t from Professor Fetzer for my efforts.
14-01-2011, 01:29 AM (This post was last modified: 14-01-2011, 03:32 AM by James H. Fetzer.)
You deserve far more s--t than I have dished out for this phony story that is
about as ridiculous as any I have ever encountered. When I found that you
plastered this hysterical note, "The man identified as Conein is not Conein",
on your web site, I contacted you about it--and you were unable to explain
how your source had reached this conclusion. Objective comparsions of the
images of Mainman and Adams suggest they are not the same person, which
of course makes your alleged "explanation" completely indefensible. I have
no idea why you dredged this up this fairy tail, but I can't think of a serious
student of JFK who would take it seriously. I'm sorry, but it has to be a joke.
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:
Jack White Wrote:
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:
Jack White Wrote:Adams "plaque".
Jack:
For God's sake, can we stop calling the bloody thing a plaque, in quotes or not?
Do you believe that this is part of CIA attempt to provide Lucien Conein with plausible deniability? (The plausible deniability would be applicable -- of course -- only to people visiting the Adams residence familiar with the webpage titled Familiar Faces in Dealey Plaza. Perhaps for afternoon tea?)
I can scarcely believe that I am having this discussion. Feathers/waddles/quacks comes to mind.
Allan...Please correct any of my memories below which are untrue.
1. Allan initially identified a man in Altgens 4 as being Lucien Conein.
2. Allan in support of his identification supplied a photo he identified as Conein.
3. Allan later said, no, someone told me that it shows a man named Adams.
4. Allan said the man's family has a plaque identifying Adams in a news photo.
5. Allan obtained and distributed many photos of Adams.
6. Allan said the man's family identified him in the news photo.
Am I correct that ALL information concerning this came from you, as above?
You and I have never personally met, correct? How do I know you are the
real Allan Eaglesham, and not an imposter?
Since you at times have argued both positions, should we entertain the
possibility of TWO ALLANS?
Jack
Almost correct, Jack.
I don't think I firmly identified any of the look-alikes. Martha and I were careful in our terms of reference.
And when Frank Caplett provided me with new information, and new photographic evidence that showed beyond a reasonable doubt -- to anyone reasonable -- that the Conein look-alike on the corner of Main and Houston was, in fact, Robert Adams, I shared that information on my Website.
And took sh*t from Professor Fetzer for my efforts.
